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LuciusMalfoy
Who could be the new MoM now that JKR has ruled out Mr. Weasley? I have no clue, but we do know it'll be someone we've met before since no new characters are going to be in the 6th book. I'd really like to know what everyone thinks. It would have been really cool though, if it had been Mr. Weasley. Oh, well.

So, tell me what y'all think.
Voldemort
Kingsley Shacklebolt possibly. I've also heard of Susan Bones
Professor Diggle
Amelia BOnes, Susan is in Harry's year.

I also think of Kingsley or Amelia. I don't know

It was pretty obvious that Arthur won't be, he is a plain worker, isn't he?
lupin22
probably amelia bones.

i bet that percy will be promoted again to a higher position.(too young/ inexperianced for minister htough)

gross, what if it was umbridge? mad.gif

no it wouldnt be, she sent dementors on harry...

i dont know



lupin blink.gif
LuciusMalfoy
You know, I was thinking Amelia Bones, but you never know. I liked Kingsley Shacklebolt too. Hmm...I should have known it wouldn't be Mr. Weasley, he wasn't very high up in the ministry. But it was that whole what Ron jokes about comes true thing.
HP321
I havent read OOTP in awhile, but what happened to Fudge, I didnt even know there was going to be a new M O M. I guess I must have missed something.
Professor Diggle
JKR stated it.

And about Percy he can't promote without becoming the minister, can he?

The next step is senior assintant, and he is young and then the top job
BellatrixBlack
Maybe perhaps Dumbledore? Nah, jk, he didnt want it. But I was thinking since there is a war, he might want that position so he could better protect innocent ppl, though he still didnt take it when the war had first started some 16yrs earlier. So I dunno, mybe Tonks? Too young, though it would be very funny and wrong if it was Percy, that was if age didnt matter.
archangel
here's what i said about it in another topic about the same subject: (seriously people, we need to stop doing this, we have like three different topics about the same thing! lol, that's okay thouhg, i started one myself a while back.... tongue.gif )


i seriously doubt it'll be kingsley. that dude is a powerful auror, he's more important to the ministry as an auror than sitting behind a desk trying to organize everyone. i mean, he doesn't have much experience running a government.....people will want dumbledore, but he's not gonna leave hogwarts....ooh, you know what would suck? what if....Lucius Malfoy became minister?! he would make things difficult for the Order, that's for sure. and think about the smug look on draco's face if thatn happened.....i can seriously see that happening, jsut as an interesting plot twist, kinda like what she did with umbridge.
Voldemort
I can see Lucius being elected Minister of Magic, just let Tom and other Death Eater's break him out of Azkaban and let walk in and run for the position. He is a Death Eater, nobody is gonna elect him, speak to him so long as he is a Death Eater.
Mrs.Black
I think it'll be Kingsley or Bones, as most people have said...but if its someone other than them two, I will be pleasantly surprised...I honestly cannot think of anyone else who would be MoM... blink.gif
archangel
maybe itll be a new character, and she'll surprise us all, i dunno. also, i had forgottend malfoy was caught.
LuciusMalfoy
Yeah, Lucius was caught. He'll probably be in Azkaban now. I don't think he can talk his way out of this one. lol. And JKR did say that there wouldn't be any nre characters in this book. So there goes that idea. But I think I like the fact that we have already met the character that will be the new MoM.
archangel
yeah, but i doubt lucius will be in there long, with the dementors gone. i mean, who's guarding them now, regular wizards? nah, he'll probably escape.
Shuntpike
Of course he'll escape, but he still won't have a chance of becoming MoM. I think it'll be Amelia Bones, she's a well respected and powerful member of the MoM so i think it'll be her. Definately not Kingsley, he's just not important enough.
Voldemort
what are you talking about? Isn't he head of the Auror's officer? I'd find one of the most important departments in my ministry. He is responsible for finding one of the top 12 most wanted wizards in the country.
LuciusMalfoy
Voldemort's right. He is important in the MoM. I wouldn't mind him being the new Minister, but he probably would be better where he is at the moment, you know with the war and all. I think Amelia Bones would be a pretty good MoM, but I'm not putting my money on anyone yet.
archangel
i know, i know, malfoy won't be minister, i had forgotten people found out who he was.

look, kingsley's tight, and yes, important, but he's much more valuable as an auror than a minister. there's a big difference between being head of the auror dept., and being head of the entire government, and there's no evidence at all to suggest he would be a likely canidate for minister.

amelia bones however, is a DEFINATE possibilty.
BellatrixBlack
I like the idea of Amelia Bones, I think with Harry liking her, JK forshawdowed a little that she would make a good MoM, I dunno what I'm talking about, lol.
PhoenixFeathers23
i think that Amelia Bones will be the next M.o.M
LuciusMalfoy
I could definitly see her as the new MoM. She's really cool. And you're right, Bella, Harry did like her. Of course that could be because she didn't find him guilty or whatever. Anyway, I like the idea of her being the MoM for sure.
Louise
I think it could be Umbridge, you know...JKR seems to like being cruel to her readers... wink.gif

And there we all were thinking Fudge was bad enough.....

It would certainly spice things up a bit, huh?
Erin G
Ughhh. Umbrige? Aaaagghhhhhhh!!!!

lol

I think its the monocle lady. Wuts her name? lol. im dumb
BellatrixBlack
monocle lady? i have no idea, lol. I'm I the only one who sort of thought Umbridge was a cool character? You gotta love a detacatied woman, lol. Someone who will get the job done.
doomed_renascence
hmmm, it could be McLaggen (that's his name right? i read somewhere that he's going to be a new character) or the person that was described in the little note. unless McLaggen is the dude described on the note, eh.

anyway, other than this possibility, i do think it could be amelia bones. she was first introduced in the latest book, so she would have some role in the next one for sure. she's also very respected, so that gives her another point. she's just and nice, no explanation needed there.

hmm kingsley shacklebolt. yes he was introduced just like bones in the fifth book, but i dont know. he's also a powerful auror, so he's probably too busy with the order to be the new minister. he seems more hidden in the book than bones. there wasn't any insight on him. she just put him there.

....umbridge as minister of magic. now that's scary. yes, it's possible, but still, she was a bit bothered after her encounter with the centaurs. who knows if it can be permanent? (i certainly hope it is lol) i dont think she is very respected though. she tries and makes other people feel intimidated by her, and you can see a lot of people hate her. just because fudge really liked her doesnt mean that other people will.
is the wizarding world's government a democracy? if it is then it's not like fudge can just give her the position then and there, so we dont have to worry...much.

i think dumbledore could be the new minister. i mean, with the war starting and everything, everyone would want everything to be in order. (weak point, i know) and it just seems like dumbledore can do that job.

oh, by the way. i find this title of the thread funny lol. who is the new mom. sorry, out of the topic, i know. tongue.gif
potter_for_president
HELLO?
BellatrixBlack
I know Umbridge wont be MoM, I just think it would be funny if she did become one. I would love it if Dumbledore became the new MoM.
Louise
I don't think it'll be Dumbledore...didn't he get offered the job before Fudge and he refused it? I think he's happy at Hogwarts and he's got his hands pretty much full at the moment between that and the Order. Besides, I reckon DD likes it where he is, where he can really make a difference...not up in the MoM doing absolutely nothing and blaming everyone else when things go wrong...like most politicians....Lol... wink.gif He'd be way too bogged down in policies and laws and stuff to be involved in Hogwarts or the Order, and he wouldn't do that...

I suppose the most likely candidate would be Amelia Bones or someone like that...but I'd still like it to be Umbridge... wink.gif
BellatrixBlack
I dont think it will be Dumbledore, but I would like it to be. Than Magonagal(cant spell that name) would be headmistress, but I do agree that Dumbledore is happy where he is now.
stupid_cat
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oh, by the way. i find this title of the thread funny lol. who is the new mom. sorry, out of the topic, i know.  tongue.gif


lol! I thought the same thing when I read the that... I was like.. um, Mr. Weasley isn't a mom in the first place, lol.. wow..

Anywho... down to business..

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is the wizarding world's government a democracy? if it is then it's not like fudge can just give her the position then and there, so we dont have to worry...much


Hmm, I never thought about it, I just figured it was a democracy, but with JKR you can't really figure anything since she's so sneaky. Good insight.

I had the twingy feeling after I read the FAQ on her site that Umbridge would be next in line for the job since she's already has quite a bit of power and JKR says the books are becoming darker (and the Lord knows that if she's the Mistress of Magic then it'll be a dark, dark day in the world).
There is the fact that she's a bit... unnerved by clomping noises, but how many people are going to know about that... Well, at least, until Hermione has something to do with it... (Same goes for the dementor thing. Who else besides Harry and Co. knows that she was the one to set them out?)
It's true that no one seems to like her much but Fudge, and we don't know, as of yet, what the people think of him. (Though I would imagine they'd want to tar and feather him for being such a jerk!)

I agree with most of you by saying that Kingsley probably isn't going to be the next MoM simply because he is needed elsewhere. (I would also imagine he'd see this too, and if he was even offered to run/the position, I don't think he'd take it)

Amelia Bones also sounds like a good candidate. I got the following from the HP-Lexicon:

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A broad, square-jawed witch with very short gray hair and thick eyebrows, Madam Bones wears a monocle. According to Tonks, Amelia is fair and honest.


She sounds like a leader, and even Tonks likes her, so that would give us headway to assume that most other people do as well.

As a last note, I think we can elimanate Percy and Malfoy as choices simply because it wouldn't make sense... though it would be quite interesting...


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Grindelwald-The dark Lord
Wait amin...Im confused. We know that there will be a new MoM, who said it isn't Mr Weasley or have i missed something. Im sure it is him. Hasnt it accured to u that Ron has similar powers to Tralawney." Predicting the future" Check out how often his statement on the future come true.


Tralawney goes inot a trance and Ron throws them out in general conversations. That suggests that the power is hidden-and we all know how powerful out hidden secrets are.

Lets refear back to that famouse words

"We have as much chance as winning the quiditch cup as my dad becoming mynister of magic." _ Ron Some thing like that , i havent got my book right now.
doomed_renascence
well ron does have a thing for making SOME things come true, when he just says it.

but still, mr. weasley has a very err, i guess you can say a low ranking job at the ministry. you can't just get a new position so suddenly in two months. and this is the highest ranking position! so no, i really dont think he will be the new minister. plus, i think rowling confirmed it in the edinburg [sp] book festival interview.
stupid_cat
It was actually confirmed that Mr. Weasley will NOT be the new Minister from jkrowling.com. To see it for yourself, go there, then click on the collection of paperclips and a marble near the top right. Then three envelopes will fly onto the desk. Click the one on the far right, in the middle called, 'About the Books'. The first question is 'Will Arthur Weasley be the new Minister for Magic?' JKR answers, 'Alas, no.'

(FYI- USA calls it Minister of Magic, the British versions call it Minister for Magic, I believe... but it's the same thing)
LuciusMalfoy
I would just like to say that the title of this thread was a typo! I didn't really mean for it to come out the way it did. Sorry. I should have checked it before I pushed add. Oh well, you get what it's about. Although I do laugh everytime I read it and get mad that I didn't check it in the first place. *sigh* oh well.

I don't think Umbridge will be up for the job after what happened in the forest. And I don't think Dumbledore will be the new MoM, since he never wanted that job in the first place.

So, at the moment my money's on Amelia Bones.
SuperStar
wouldn't the minister of magic be a guy? i don't think it could be amelia possibly one of the order members...i don't think shaklebolt(sp) either ...don't know...anybody else have any guesses? Has anyone thought of : Bill/Charlie Weasly? Elphias Doge? Dedalus Diggle? (sturgis podmore...possible? he only was sentenced six months in azkaban) ..... ANYWAYS...I am just trying to shed light on other characters/names that have been briefly stated....those are my thoughts...anybody else? anything to add to this idea? what do you think?
stupid_cat
I don't see why they couldn't have a Mistress of Magic. They're only calling it a Minister because currently it is a male. So Amelia is still going strong on my list.

Bill and Charlie are people we know about, I don't think much of the Wizarding community would know much about them. So they wouldn't be likely candidates. That's like having Joe Schmoe (not the TV show guy) run for president of the US without any experience on the field. They don't even work for the MoM.

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i don't think it could be amelia possibly one of the order members


Bill and Charlie are part of the Order, wink.gif Elphia Doge is also part of the Order, and is rather old, again, no experience in the MoM (that we know about). Dedalus Diggle... isn't he that guy who set off the sparks on the day LV died and met him several times only to turn into a stuttering fool? lol He doesn't seem very smart at all, McGonagall even said so. I don't think anyone would want someone who was sent to Azkaban to be their new Minister, so that excludes Strugis.

Er, sorry if it seems I jumped down your throat, lol, I didn't mean to, you asked for someone to add on it! biggrin.gif
Louise
QUOTE (LuciusMalfoy @ Aug 30 2004, 12:26 AM)
I would just like to say that the title of this thread was a typo! I didn't really mean for it to come out the way it did. Sorry. I should have checked it before I pushed add. Oh well, you get what it's about. Although I do laugh everytime I read it and get mad that I didn't check it in the first place. *sigh* oh well.



**tee hee** We know, Lucius...it's okay....I've done typos myself that make me crack a rib when I find them...it's just tough that yours happens to be on the head of a thread where you can't go back and edit it!! Don't worry....be glad that you've given people something to have a little chuckle about in what might otherwise have been a pretty dull day! wink.gif

Anywho...the new Minister for magic can certainly be a woman...a minister is a minister...no gender allocations there, just as 'senator' carries no gender allocation.

Bill and Charlie are pretty good contenders, actually...I never thought about them....they'd certainly be a lot fairer than Fudge was (Ha! Lucius...I just did a typo meself!! I just typed 'fairiers'... laugh.gif laugh.gif Bill and Charlie....a couple of fairies....oh, my aching sides... laugh.gif ...see, it happens to the best of us!!! But I changed it back....just in case... wink.gif ). And as Charlie's had experience with dragons and dark creatures, hopefully he'll give the poor, maligned werewolves a bit more status within the wizarding community!! wink.gif
LuciusMalfoy
I don't know I don't really think it's going to be a Weasley that becomes the MoM, but it's fun to think about! I love the Weasleys. Anyway...

I agree with Dana that the Minister can be male or female, doesn't matter the gender. I just hope it's someone who's nice and fair and knows when to take action and when not to. And they should definitely help out on the werewolf issue (yay! Lupin!)

Hey! It'd be really cool if it was Lupin...you know, a werewolf in office. Ha! Show them prejudice wizards! lol. I know it probably wouldn't happen, but it would be really cool.
Nivaya
Fairier...*giggles*

*ahem* Anyway. Aye, a minister can be female, like Margaret Thatcher being Prime Minister in UK in the 80's....I havn't particularly noticed sexism occuring much in the wizarding world, you know? Chauvanism, yes, but not discrimination....

I reckon that yeah, Kingsley's too important where he is right now, especially with the...heh....dark wizards problems going on currently, I think Umbridge will remain too...um...shaken...from her experience in the woods to be considered as MoM *oh god, I'm disagreeing with Dana, I feel dirty!!! >.<*, Dumbledore, just no... I guess Amelia Bones...she's pretty high up in the Ministry, obviously, and, well, it's kinda known *from Harry's trial* that she's not one to get caught up in like, hysteria and what the crowd thinks and so on...

Saying all this, I hadn't really given it much thought...heh...
Louise
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I think Umbridge will remain too...um...shaken...from her experience in the woods to be considered as MoM *oh god, I'm disagreeing with Dana, I feel dirty!!! >.<*,


Oh! How dare you!!!! Right, that's it! Where's the werewolves??

**giggles** laugh.gif Oh dear, am I that scary then, Nivaya? tongue.gif I'm not always right, you know... tongue.gif **tee hee** (...just most of the time... wink.gif laugh.gif )

No, seriously though, there's a lot of people out there who think Umbridge has seen her best days, and hey, you're all probably right....I'm just a bit sick like that, I guess! I don't think Harry's suffered quite enough yet....

Pass the thumbscrews......and the bloodthirsty quill wink.gif Don't put those pink cardi's back in the closet just yet!! Umbridge will return!! **laughs manically** She was the Senior Undersecretary to the Minister, you know...and in Britain, you still remain a politician, even though you might have a full time job elsewhere....provided she recovers from her **ahem** unfortunate experience, of course!

Wouldn't it be nice if it was Lupin, though? Mmm...it probably won't be the Weasley's either. It would have to be someone fairly sensible I suppose, so that leaves out Mad-Eye and Tonks...and Percy....probably not Kingsley....who else is there? We don't really know much else about the upper echelons of the ministry, do we? I bet it'll be Amelia Bones...although you'd think she's have her hands full already with the Magical Law Enforcement Department.....
Nivaya
*narrows eyes and points at the kitten plate you're clearly hiding* Maybe YOU ARE UMBRIDGE, and you're plotting right now!!!! *giggle* sorry...*grins and hugs*

Hmm, I definitely don't think we've seen the last of her though, I'll admit...definitely not....

Aww, it WOULD be nice if it was Lupin....except the country would fall apart the three-ish nights a month he had PMT...I mean....werewolfness...

I find it unlikely that it'll be someone new...how often, barring military coup, does a complete unknown take over the running of a government?

Yeah, racking my brains but all I can really come up with is Madame Bones...
LuciusMalfoy
It'd be really funny if it wasn't Amelia and it DID turn out to be Umbridge or someone else we've said won't be it. I wouldn't be able to stop laughing, but yeah *raises glass* here's to Amelia Bones becoming the next MoM.
SuperStar
After these further deliberatrions I see fit that Amelia Boones a possiblity of being the new MoM....I was for her the whole time but i didn't see it how she could become MoM...but still how can a woman become president? How can that be! Possibly the MoM postion is like the presidency and all...i dunno bout' elections but it can sort of fit at this angle too. Isn't there anybody that seems rather suitable for the job besides Amelia...if she isn't the new MoM? Ideas? Suggestion?
Nivaya
There are female world leaders all over the place...like I said, in England there was Margaret Thatcher for a large proportion of my life, just because for example there hasn't yet been a female president, doesn't mean to say that women aren't ALLOWED...
SuperStar
Yeah..ok
BellatrixBlack
Well, I do hope it is a woman, most of the powerful characters in JK's books seem to be male. Thats why Hermione rocks!, lol
LuciusMalfoy
lol, Bella, you and your women's power stuff. Next thing you know you'll be burning your underclothes. tongue.gif jk You know I feel the same way.

Yeah, it would be so great to have a female MoM, I'm all for Amelia Bones now.
BellatrixBlack
No, no burning, I need those, lol. Maybe it will be Hermions since she is so smart. yeah that wont happen but I didnt know what else to write.
doomed_renascence
lol i think Hermione needs to finish school first.

although since Rowling is a woman, she could find it more favorable to her to make the new MoM a female. but we'll never know until the book comes out. just one more year.... >_<
BellatrixBlack
It might not even be out next year. It took 3yrs for OotP to come out. I had really wanted to read it before I started college, but oh if it comes out while I am in college, I will get behind in my classes cause that it all I'm gonna be doing. 0_0
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