CAPS LOCK
Jul 14 2006, 09:55 PM
i don't think so because he would have recieved a hogwarts letter- remember the name of a wizard goes onto a list the moment that the birth takes place- i highly doubt this theory
savingharry
Aug 8 2006, 02:23 PM
Remember what I said about muggle-born children recieving their letters by messenger. How do we deal with this point then? Did hogwarts assume that dudley knew about hogwarts, etc.? Wouldn't hagrid have tried to make sure dudley got the opportunity to go if he wanted to? That seems to be hagrid's personality, doesn't it? Or perhaps hagrid didn't know about dudley?
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etphonehome
Aug 8 2006, 02:48 PM
I am inclined to say no. But then he could be the late developer that we've heard tell about.
I'd like to think not, just think what sort of trouble a wally like that could cause if you put a wand in his hand.
Storm10115
Aug 8 2006, 05:04 PM
No this is a stupid topic and needs to be closed.
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etphonehome
Aug 9 2006, 04:45 PM
Like negsong said back a few posts ago, a lot of conjecture..but still a lot of sound ideas. I particularly agree with your comments on the way Vernon and Petunia have treated Dudley to pacify him all his life.He has has no boundaries to overstep, and therefore never gets to the point where he could lose his temper, because he knows that he is in control.
I believe he is the person that JKR sopke of.
Pro-Seeker
Aug 10 2006, 05:46 AM
sorry double post!
HPFan792
Aug 10 2006, 03:52 PM
I dont think so.Like CAPS LOCK said he would have recieved a Hogwarts letter and when Harry or a wizard or witch gets angry,scared,or sad they usually show signs of magic.Like Harry does when he gets mad.Dudley never shows any signs of magic at all in the books.
Fenixong
Aug 10 2006, 09:58 PM
Yep, he's a wizard.
I think he's about the only character we know who hasn't had something said about him that debunks them being the one who "manages to do some magic quite late in life." For those who say that Dudley is a squib... that doesn't make sense... a squib is a non-magical person born to magical parents. Also, those who are discussing whether or not Dudders got a letter from Hogwarts: Wizard kids aren't guarenteed a letter just because they have magical abilities... remember what Neville said in PS/SS? He said that his Gran and Uncle weren't sure he'd be "magic enough" to go to Hogwarts and that when the got his letter, they were so excited, Uncle Alge bought him his toad! So not all kids who can do magic are "magic enough" to go to Hogwarts.
I still can't work out how the "remember my last" thing is a clue as to Dudley being a wizard, but I think the other things that Dumbledore said (in HBP) do hint that Dud has some magical ability. And it explains why Vernon and Petunia are so nutty about keeping everything even remotely close to magic out of their house. Maybe they just don't want Dud to know he's a wizard because they're afraid he'll be in danger like all the rest of the wizards in the world are when LV's roaming about.
It explains quite a lot!
amanda1212
Aug 14 2006, 01:52 AM
I think this is a very debatable topic. Petunia and Vernon raised Dudley to hate wizarding. All I know is that would be quite a shock to the both of them
I think the "Remember my last" had something to do with Harrys protection at the Dursleys, not having something to do with Dudely.
I think this is a very debatable topic. Petunia and Vernon raised Dudley to hate wizarding. All I know is that would be quite a shock to the both of them
I think the "Remember my last" had something to do with Harrys protection at the Dursleys, not having something to do with Dudely.
Spencer Potter
Aug 14 2006, 02:07 AM
I highly doubt Ickle Diddykins is a wizard, he hates magic and is scared haha! But he has never shown Magic or any of that crap, so no, hes not.
etphonehome
Aug 14 2006, 08:05 AM
I may be wrong here, but in PS didn't Hagrid say that Harry's name had been down for Hogwarts since he was born. So to me that sounds like someone i.e. his parents had to put his name down for Hogwarts. If this is the case, knowing how we do about the way Vernon and Petunia feel about the wizarding world, they would never have even considered putting Dudley's name down, they have maybe even made sure that he never got a letter even if this isn't how it works.
Dudleys 'hate' of magic is based on what his father and mother have told him, this is based mostly on lack of understanding. I think he would like magic a lot more if he knew he was a wizard.
So I still think that Dudley will be the one to show signs of magic later in life.
Narcissa;-
Aug 15 2006, 12:18 AM
Dudley? A Wizard? I LAUGH! Hahaha. Sorry but i find that funny. i dont think he's a wizard at all, not even close. He doesnt show sign and stuff that he is one.
Kymar
Sep 5 2006, 03:30 PM
QUOTE
Dumbledore confirmed her fears in the 'last' letter and somehow placed a spell over Dudley so he couldn't use his magic, therefore he wouldn't find out about it. He also kept him off the Hogwart's list, so Dudley didn't get the letter at age 11.
I had this thought myself, and actually posted it on the thread about what Dudley remembers around the dementors (A time when he accidentally used magic with terrifying consequences).
I think this also ties in with why Petunia took Harry in - she promised that she would take care of Harry as long as DD performed the spell that would supress Dudley's magical ability. Now that the spell is over, Dudley will be able to perform magic.
This could also explain why Dudley is always so spoilt. Mr & Mrs. Dursley are afraid that if he gets upset or angry, then his power may start to show itself again. Remember in PS when Dudley started to get upset cos he didn't have enough birthday presents? Petunia seemed quite fearful of his tantrum and moved quickly to stop him getting too upset. Could be.........
MIKOH
Sep 13 2006, 11:59 PM
well i totaly disagree that dudley is a wizard because it would have been obvious because he might show attrraction to magic but he don't.
Kymar
Sep 16 2006, 09:46 AM
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he might show attrraction to magic but he don't.
That's a good point, but the theory is that DD put a spell on him to supress his magical tendencies, as this was the only way that Petunia would take him in but now the spell is over and so Dudley's abilities will begin to show themselves.
RainStorm
Sep 20 2006, 10:37 PM
Dudley couldn't be a wizard.Sure petuina has a very small amout of magic blood in her family but i higly doubt dudley is a wizard.
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Death Eater Snape
Sep 21 2006, 03:13 AM
I Rekon Dudley isnt a Wizard. But Petunia Might be a witch you dunno with JKR writing she is random but shocks you
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Phoenix92
Sep 21 2006, 02:27 PM
No I really don't think so.

There may be sad moments in Dudley's life which he saw when the dementor sucked all the happiness out of him.If Dudley is a wizard Petunia would have made sure that she had squeezed it out of him.
UnknownLocket
Sep 22 2006, 12:05 AM
Yah, I don't think that he is a wizard either. He just doesnt seem the type.. if there even is one...and I agree with Death Eater Snape. Maybe Petunia is one.
Phoenix92
Sep 22 2006, 04:22 PM
Wait a minute,Petunia a witch???.If she is one why would she hate magic?Why would she stop Harry going to Hogwarts?Why would she feel jealous of her sister????
Albus Dumbledore
Sep 22 2006, 05:48 PM
QUOTE
Is there more to Dudley than meets the eye?
No. [Laughter]. What you see is what you get. I am happy to say that he is definitely a character without much back story. He is just Dudley. The next book, Half Blood Prince, is the least that you see of the Dursleys. You see them quite briefly. You see them a bit more in the final book, but you don’t get a lot of Dudley in book six—very few lines. I am sorry if there are Dudley fans out there, but I think you need to look at your priorities if it is Dudley that you are looking forward to. [Laughter].
ok here the quote to end all discussion Im afraid... sorry if anyone has posted this already!! From what JKR has said, she has definitively debunked this rumour... it would have been interesting though.
~Albus
psychoticinferno
Nov 21 2006, 01:28 PM
If dudley were a wizard that would easily fall under the category of his worst memories as well, which would be essentially quicker in getting around annoying subplots.
hp1
Nov 21 2006, 11:27 PM
i have to say that i believe dudley is not a wizzard. i do not believe that there is anything else to him except harry's mean fat cousin. harry's aunt would have noticed that odd things happened to dudley too, not just harry. she always says how dudley is perfect and she is so against wizzards, that i would doubt that she would say how perfect her son is if he was a wizzard. by now, he would have shown magical powers and probably have been contacted by hogwarts or some other type of wizzarding school.
Aguamenti353
Dec 1 2006, 12:57 AM
I personally believe that there is just absolutely NO WAY that Dudley could possibly be a wizard! The theory is interesting, but I just don't see how it would work. (and that quote from JKR pretty muhchcinched it for me) If Petunia couldn't squash the magic out of Harry, what makes you think that she'd be able to squash it out of Dudley? Especially since they've NEVER treated Dudley anywhere near the way that treated Harry. Good theory, I just don't think its right.
the_animagus
Dec 4 2006, 04:30 PM
NO WAY! A Dursley and magic are two banks of a river, two side ofa coin.
If Dudley had been a wizard then he would've done something when the Dementors attacked him.
ladybear1515
Dec 6 2006, 08:57 PM
Not in a million years. We have never been told of anything odd happening to dudley, only when harry was around. The last letter refered to the letter dd left with harry when he dropped him off at the dursley's home. nothing else. plus IF dudley were a wizard he would have recieved letters from dd too, wether or not his mother wanted him to be a wizard. Remeber what happened to harry when his uncle wouldn't let him see his hogwarts letter. don't you think that would happen to everyone who didn't reply.
hpotter
Dec 10 2006, 03:02 PM
I don't think Dudley is a wizard but going off the subject people have been saying 'Dumbledore would have sent him a letter is he was a wizard' I think you are forgetting the conversation between Hagrid and Vernon
[indent]"He won't be going"
[indent]"Oh and a great muggle like yourself is gonna stop him...
[indent](Harry) Muggle?
[indent](Hagrid) Non magic folk. Harry has had his name down since he was born...
That quote was from the film but it is similar in the book. The point is that you have to have your name down. I am sure there are young wizards who haven't had their name down on the waiting list. So you can only recieve a letter if you are signed up.
savingharry
Dec 11 2006, 03:29 PM
Actually, Jo has said that there is an enchanted quill that records the names of wizard/witch births. How do you think muggleborns like Lily and Hermione get in? There names weren't put down on a list by someone. It had to have been done by a magical device. I'll get the quote for you if you want. But, as albus dumbledore has shown us, Dudley isn't a wizard. Jo has said so.
-fish
beatlegurl88
Dec 23 2006, 07:14 PM
No way he couldn't see the dementors in book five. Even squibs can see them as Ms. Figg pointed out!
savingharry
Dec 29 2006, 02:42 PM
Well, actually, Jo said that Ms. Figg didn't see the dementors, but knew enough about them to recognize the way they felt. But you are quite right. Dudley didn't see them. That's yet another sign he's not a wizard.
clara morgue
Dec 29 2006, 04:24 PM
NO. Apart from all the things you have all said, and the fact that Dudley is so muggle-ish, why would he be?
What benefit would it bring to the books or storyline? none. Even if Dudley was a decent wizard and had managed to keep it hidden (this is never going to happen but lets think hypothetically...) he would be too scared and lazy to do anything usefull so he may as well stay a muggle. i don't think it is at all likely that any of the dursleys would be magical -in the conventional sense- I know people have talked about petunia, as she seems like she could, possibly, be the most usefull of the lot. But, if any of them were witch/wizard i would laugh. its never going to happen.
HandofGlory248
Jan 12 2007, 01:27 AM
First off, J.K. has confirmed that Petunia has absolutly zero magical powers, and i am assuming that vernon is muggle through and through. If that is true, then there is no way that Dudders could be a wizard. And i don't think that jo would stoop THAT low for plot lines. sorry to anyone who agrees with this theory.
Plus, Dumbledore would never prevent someone from using magic, and blackmail is comepletly out of the question. Look how hard he tried to get Harry his Hogwarts letter in book 1. How could he ever cast such a horrible spell on an innocent (well then innocent) muggle child?
jiggery-pokery
Jan 25 2007, 06:59 PM
Sorry to disappoint you but I really don’t think that’s likely
1. Dudley would’ve seen the dementors
2. If he is a Wizard, why is he and his family SOOO against magic?
I would assume that the other letters had something to do with Petunia herself. Like what Rowling said, “There’s more to her than meets the eye” I’ve been taking the eye part literally. Perhaps, why does she not have vivid green as Lily does? Is Lily adopted?
potter_is_mine
Jan 30 2007, 02:53 PM
Well, Dudley's family is soooo against magic because of Lily. They thought wizards were freaks. But it is a good suggestion that Lily was adopted....or is it Petunia that was adopted? But, it doesn't matter about the eyes. I have brown-green eyes and my brother has blue-grey eyes. So Lily may have just been muggle-born. As for who else is a wizard....I can not help you.
Pygmy_puff
Jan 30 2007, 05:09 PM
No way. Dudley is sooo not a wizard! He would have been asked to join Hogwarts or other magical school. And nothing happens when D is angry or embarrased or whatever, like when Harry did.
gina hp iz ace
Oct 6 2007, 02:57 PM
i dont think its that i just think it was because her sister was in danger and dd would never stop some1 being able to use there magic and for dudly to be able to use magic would proberly kill patuna because lily could and she couldnt
keith
Oct 9 2007, 08:21 PM
Of course Dudley isn't a wizard. If he was, he would have tormented Harry so much more.He's also never demonstrated any abilities like the young wizard children.
Killian
Oct 11 2007, 03:38 PM
I don’t think Dudley’s a wizard but he’s certainly a product of his upbringing. He was spoilt in his childhood and didn’t know any other way to behave, especially to his cousin - since his parents were really no different to Harry, it just turned out perhaps that in the later stage of his childhood Dudley began to see Harry as a person not as “the boy under the stairs”, we saw that when he said he wasn’t ashamed of Harry .. Or was it that he didn’t hate him? I can’t remember exactly lol, but it was along that lines.
The letters were more likely informing the Dursley’s that Harry would be arriving, and that he must stay there to be protected from Voldemort - hence why Petunia didn’t agree to throw him out of the house.
Nevilesmylife
Oct 27 2007, 08:03 PM
I don't think that dudley could possible be a wizard. One huge reason is Dudley didn't see the death eaters when they attacked harry and him. I also don't think that he could be a wizard because he wouldn't have felt threatened by harry if harry threatened to do magic on dudley.
Kaitlyn
Oct 31 2007, 05:53 AM
I don't think Dudley being a wizard is an actual possibility... Just like Pygmy_puff said, I don't know how, but the wizarding community has a way of finding out which children is magical and which one isn't. If he had been magical, even if he didn't know anything about magic, he would have received his letter just as Hermione did, when he turned 11.
Also, just like several of you guys have said too, he never showed any signs of magic.
And he wasn't able to see the dementors when he was attacked on Harry's fifth year, just like Nevilesmylife pointed out (I'm pretty sure that's what he meant!)
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