r&h212 good im glad im not the only one! me too, i loved all the hints in hbp! well im reading it at the moment and thought i would bring up something, not sure if this has been discussed before but ill go ahead.

I have read theories that after ron gets out of the hospital he and hermione are secretly dating, i never believed it before reading it again now. I dont have the exact quote on me but the amazing moment where ron says 'i love you hermione' this part really made me believe it could be true. For one i found it really unusual that after ron says it he doesnt turn red,or try to change his words. He just goes along as if it was normal. Hermione turns slightly pink, is this because Harry is around? Or because Ron has never said this before.
I don't know,its just confusing lol. opinions?

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All of the hints in HBP have made me so excited for the seventh book, I can't believe we have to wait another whole year!

To be honest, I also think that Ron and Hermione will tell him, I don't particularily like the idea of him walking in on them. Ron and Hermione know that Harry might feel left out if they got together, but I don't think it would result in them sneaking around. I think that they might tell him about a quarter way through the seventh book, maybe a third... But I don't relaly think we'll see a lot of passionate kissing scenes or anything between them, because I think that they really don't want Harry to feel left out at this time. (although I am crossing my fingers for at least a few kisses )

Yeah,i think we have to see our favourite couple kiss at least once! Jk has to do it justice! and i believe she will. Yeah them telling Harry does seem like the most likely thing to happen. but who guessed after order came out that in the next book ron and hermione would both be dating people to make the other jealous and attacking with canaries? These books are unpredictable and anything could happen! that's the way i see it!

Actually, I'm quite wish-washy on this matter. I'm not sure if I want to see them kiss. I mean, I really want them together, but a hug and a knowledge that they were together would be enough for me. I meanl, I guess I'm not a big fan of extreme romantic-ness, because HBP bothered me so much..

I think she needs to make them at least a hug and a kiss on the cheek. I don't think they'll make them full make-out session. I think it'd be better if they showed them holding hands and whispering into each other ears would be great. I so cannot wait for the 7th book.

No, I don't think I'd be a big fan of seeing Hermione and Ron have a snog-fest. More sweet moments that make you smile and go 'tee-hee.'

I know interviews have been quite a burden to some in the shipping world, but I found this little bit from an interview. It isn't the one that several shippers loathe however, so...

I find that quote particularly interesting because it tells us that Hermione in fact did develop and recognize feelings for Ron before her did for her. It shows that, contrary to popular beleif, Hermione did feel something for him long before he did.

I think it was very appropiate for Hermione to know what was going on before Ron did, because Ron is by default a little more cluless than we would like him to be. I think that makes it that more exciting to see who would make the first move to establish the relationship. I want to see if Hermione's patient is going to fall first or Ron's cluelessness is going to falter away fast enough for them to get together.

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I loooooooove Ron and Hermione!!! They're so cute together!! i can't wait to see them together in the 7th book!! J.K. will surely make them get them together!! I can't wait to read thaaaaaaaaaat!!!

Ron & Hermione forever! They're so cute together, they argue like an old married couple! Although I've considered H/Hr, Ron seems like a better choice cause Harry's off to defeat Lord Voldemort. Hey, they could use some happiness in their lives, anyway, so I'm all for Ron and Hermy!

I absolutely love Ron and Hermione. I agree with you "candy_cauldron", they are so cute together. I love the moments where they really do seem like an old married couple. And when Ron comforted her at the funeral, all I could think was "awwwww "

Anyway, yes, I think that Hermione probably knew what her feelings meant before Ron did. She knew exactly what was going on at the Yule Ball and it took Ron a bit longer to figure it out.

I don't think he understood why he was so protective of Hermione before, which I think is cute. I definately agree that Ron is a tad clueless sometimes. Okay, maybe more than just sometimes...

I don't think it will be all out snog fest, but sweet and romantic and, to use a pharse I've coined, sexy without any sexy. Because Ron and Hermione will probally get married and stuff after the war, it would be only natural to have them happy and loving. As for Harry finding out, maybe he'll just sort of know. Because R/Hr will hold hands every one and a while or sit closely together, stuff like that. And Harry will just confirm it with Ron, ask when it began and Ron will answer. I mean, Harry knows Ron and Hermione like he knows his own soul.

Yay! I think Ron and Hermione make a fantastic pair. Hermione's wit, kindness and cleverness and Ron's humour. Hermione and Ron, if they don't get together in the seventh book.......well I am going to be extremely dissapointed .

I love it in the Half Blood Prince when Ron and Hermione are in Herbology together speaking about the Slug Club and how Hermione was going to ask Ron to Slughorn's Christmas Celebration=

"You were going to ask me?' asked Ron, in a completley different voice.
'Yes,' said Hermione angrily. 'But obviously if you'd rather I got off with Mclaggen..."
There was a pause while Harry continued to pound the resilient pod with a trowel.
'No, I wouldn't," said Ron in a very quiet voice.

I think it is really one of the first times that they come close to actually admitting to liking each other . I wish someone like Ron liked me, Hermione is lucky!
And just like my avatar says= You can't spell Hermione without Ron Just noice!

Ya that is my FAV. in the whole book!!!

"You were going to ask me?' asked Ron, in a completley different voice.
'Yes,' said Hermione angrily. 'But obviously if you'd rather I got off with Mclaggen..."
There was a pause while Harry continued to pound the resilient pod with a trowel.
'No, I wouldn't," said Ron in a very quiet voice.

i really think that Ron and Hermione make the cutest couple ever beacuse they are so oppisite.But as everyone knows oppisites attract. they obviosily like eachother Ron got jeolus when Hermione went out with viktor krum in the fourth book. And when hermione got jeolus when ron and lavander got together in the sixth book. Ron and Hermione... It is just going happen!

I have read OoTP again last week, and I think Hermione started her jealousy from that book. When she met luna for the first time, she did'nt like luna, because Ron got more attention from Luna.
it's just my opinion, .

That's a good point that is. People always said it was just Ginny who was all mean to Luna, but it was really Hermione too. Ginny isn't the only teenage girl in here. And maybe it was because Luna was stepping in on Ron. I mean, she went into laughing hysterics when Ron said the Baboon's backside thing....so maybe Hermione was jealous. But after seeing that...well, no interest either way, she could accept Luna. Or maybe I've had one too many scoops of ice cream....

Wasn't it Hermione chidding Ron and Harry for calling her names or is that my crappy memory again? I'm not saying she was super nice to her but I do remember her being better than the others, I think. Wow, I really need to stop doing stuff that kills off brain cells, memory ones specifically

Oh ireally like the pair between Hermione and Ron,they both look very cute,and when Hermione look every time at Ron ,Ron's face was lightining.

eMBee,
Hermione disliked Luna starting when Luna shamelessly said she would go with Ron to the Yule Ball if he would have asked her. We didn't see Hermione's expression because right at that moment, Harry's attention was distracted to an article on the newspaper Luna was holding. We knew only when Ron wanted to borrow Luna's newspaper from Harry, Hermione immediately said nothing worthy to read from that newspaper (Quibbler). Seemingly Hermione didn't want Ron to touch anything belongs to Luna. Since then, Hermione actively confronted Luna's information in various occassion. The peak might be right before the Quidditch game where Ron was the keeper for the first time. In front of all students during breakfast, Luna demonstratively showed her roaring real-size lionhead to "Ronald". A few minutes later, Hermione calmly stood up and kissed Ron's cheek, also in front of the same peers.
After the battle at DoM, Hermione was more friendly towards Luna. The possibilities are among others:
- Hermione was convinced that Ron didn't like Luna
- Hermione had her time to stay close to Ron during recovery period at hospital, so why bother Luna?
- Hermione appreciated Luna more as a team-mate in the DA.
- Ginny might have convinced Hermione that Luna was not a rival.

To the others: hello again. Have enjoyed all the postings after catching up a bit.
I agree that Ron and Hermione were not the type who like to kiss everywhere. Their relationship is probably more conservative one, meaning things only happen when nobody else is around, so... we may not see a lot of action through Harry's eyes.

That's something I really like about their realtionship... how it's so obvious and so subtle at the same like. Like, it's sop apparent that they care about each other... but how they are with echother when Harry's not around is kind of a mystery. I like that about them.

They are the only couple i really beleive would work in the books! They are so obviously in love but neither openly show it.

i love this ships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi to all. I haven't been here for some time and am glad to see there are still plenty of Ron/Herm shippers Out There.

Hello to Muggleview and Just the Droobles.

It's interesting to bring up Hermione and Luna. I agree that Hermione did not seem to like Luna at all from the time Luna mentioned she'd dance with Ronald. By HBP, Hermione's feelings definitely had changed. We even saw Luna comforting Hermione after Ron had immitated her in Transfiguration.

I think a few things contributed to this. Hermione saw that Ron viewed Luna with a wary eye. He thought she was a nutter and had no romantic interest in her whatsoever. Also, after Luna and Neville were the only ones of the D.A. to answer Hermione's call with the coins to fight at the DofM, Hermione's esteem of Luna seems to have risen considerably.

By that same incident in HBP where Luna comforts Hermione, it also seems that Luna has gone off Ron as she remarks to Harry that "he can be a bit unkind." Probably, Hermione caught on to that as well.

Now to ask a new question. Pardon me if this has been discussed here recently since I've been gone, but there is a lot of talk elsewhere about how involved or not Hermione was with Krum. I think the film is the reason for this discussoin as I disagree that Hermione and Krum ever dated outside of the Yule Ball. Certainly, she all but ignored him after the second task when he was trying to invite her to his Bulgaria.

But what do you think?

Pigwithhair,
I agree with you about Luna. It seems she has convinced Hermione that she is not a love rival to get Ron.
About Krum, I think the movie summed it up nicely: "You ruined everything".
Hermione was never really dating someone. When Viktor asked him for the Yule Ball, she was excited. I am sure she tried her best to enjoy the evening, focusing on Viktor and showing that she appreciated his attention. However, the fight with Ron at the end brought her back to the reality. She lost her fun seeing how the event upset both Ron and her (although in a bit of different way). And so, realizing that Ron is the one she loves after all. That's, I guess, the end of her dream on Viktor. I don't think Hermione saw Viktor again until the end of the Second Task. We read that she ignored Viktor and was busy cheering Harry, but on her own word, she was actually worrying whether Ron and Harry (Ron's name first) were okay. So she clearly put more weight on Ron than Viktor.
During the farewell, something interesting occured. After Viktor and Hermione came back from having a private conversation, Viktor shook Harry's hand, saying kind words (no more doubt about Harry's feeling to Hermione, because there was none), then... he shook Ron's hand and left. Why? Ron is nobody in Viktor's eyes, unlike Harry, a competitor in the tournament. Why would he shook Ron's hand? He could have shaken Neville's or Seamus' etc. He didn't. Yet, he shook Ron. Not only that. As if Jo Rowling didn't want us to miss the whole point, Viktor showed relief when Ron asked for his autograph. A famous person was asked for an autograph by an ordinary fan, and he felt relieved?
Hermione must have told Viktor something that now Viktor saw Ron Weasley, not just as one of his fans. The handshake and the relief for being asked an autograph demonstrated respect. Viktor seemed to accept defeat.

So I think the relationship between Hermione and Viktor happened only during the Yule Ball night. Beyond that it is just as friends.
What do you think?

That has to be one of the best things Ron has ever done. I am so thankful he ruined everything. If not, who knows where Hermione would be emotionally and romantically?

Luna may have been a threat to Hermione back at the beginning because she was always being so dreamy toward him, but I think Hermione realized that Luna really wasn't going to interfere. You all stated it very well, but I guess I'll do my cents worth too. I feel like Luna may have had a little thing for Ron at the beginning, but after she saw how he really was, she must have rethought her choice. Luna is a wise person, and I think she saw Ron (and then she saw Hermione glowering at her ) but then she didn't think it would ever work out. You notice she gets more and more distant from what Ron has to say and what he's doing from when she first met him. At least I think so.
I also think Hermione was discomforted by Luna gazing dreamily at Ron. She had never really had to worry about any girls intruding on her territory up until that point and she was bound to have some animosity (sp?) toward Luna. Course, then there was Lavender, but that is a complete different book. Once Hermione saw Ron's coldness to Luna she may have settled a bit, but I think Ron had actually settled with Luna too, which may have made Hermione a little off again. Or maybe I'm just totally confused right now. But as one of you said...when Luna told Harry Ron could be mean sometimes, I think Hermione may have picked up on that, and she knew Luna wasn't really liking Ron. Hermione also could've had some sympathy to Luna because if there's anyone who has had to endure Ron's bad side, it would be Hermione.

I do think Luna is out of the picture in the R/Hr, but if she wants to intrude in another ship, she can be my guest. I think Ron and Hermione are pretty solid.

Viktor Krum.
I think Hermione really did like the idea of dating Viktor, and I think she did like him/have a crush on him as well. But, as we know, Ron ruined everything and Hermione may have realized Viktor wasn't really where her heart was. I think Hermione and Viktor may have had a "This can't work" conversation and Viktor must have clued in that it was Ron. I mean, Harry told him there was nothing, so Viktor could only conclude that it would be the other boy Hermione spends all her time with. That may be the reason behind him shaking Ron's hand. Kind of like a "Congrats, you've got an awesome girl" or something. And I think Viktor may have had relief when Ron asked for his autograph is because if Viktor and Hermione really did have a conversation, Viktor may have been glad Ron wasn't going to be a prat about him and Hermione going to the Ball. Krum's head may be filled with sawdust in some aspects, but I do think he has some brains up in his skull.

Ok, whether that made any sense or not, I don't know, so I hope it does!!

Oh, and welcome back, PigWithHair.

And another thing, mikipez, one-liners are not allowed. Please don't do it again. Or read the rules.

And I love HP-LOVER's avatar. Freaking awesome. Can I ask you where you got it?

I've read post after post on the whole Hermione/Krum thing, and I've never seen anyone bring up the points that Muggy brought up.

Very interesting that Viktor was "relieved" and shook Ron's hand. I had forgotten that and no one else has poiinted that out. I do think you're right and Hermione had told Viktor that she really loved Ron.

Of course, Ron being Ron didn't pick up on anything.

I agree with you. I see no evidence that there was any dating or romantic relationship between Hermione and Krum other than the Yule Ball, and the aftermath up in the common room spoke volumes.

I really think this will get addressed somehow in Seven. We do know that Krum is returning in the final book, and Ron will be watching.

There are 2 more occassions where Krum's name was mentioned. Both are in Book 5. The first one is referred to by Hermione to boost Harry's confidence so he would teach DADA. It caused Ron to hurt his neck. Secondly, Hermione demonstratively wrote a long letter supposedly for Viktor to ignite Ron's jealousy. Interestingly, the second occassion has all the sign of premeditation, because:
- In the first occassion, Hermione almost gave away her feeling by saying "I can have a pen-pal, even if I..." to Ron. Ron cut it off too quickly, maybe because he dreaded what Hermione wanted to say something about their relationship, or he was just too ****ed with the word "pen-pal"
- Hermione explained to Harry that girls like to ignite jealousy of the boys they like to see the level of love. Cho may not really use it on purpose to Harry; she just wanted to find something to say, but Hermione apparently planned and did it to Ron.

Therefore, as much as you all do, I am eager to see how Krum will possibly be used to give a final push to R/Hr in Book 7.

Hiya!

I haven't been here for months so I guess, I lost my touch regarding R/Hr views but I'm still a R/Hr shipper, don't worry. Unlike Muggy, always have stored good views!

Anyways, Viktor Krum... at first, I saw him as a hindrance on Ron and Hermione's relationship. But now, I see him as a bridge. As well as Luna's role on Ron and Hermione's relationship.

I wonder what will be the reaction of Hermione's parents. Have we discussed it here? We've seen Mrs. Weasley reaction about this relationship. Her reaction about R/Hr is very positive and it was showed when she saw the articles written by Rita Skeeter. But how about the Grangers?

I guess, they will be as supportive as always. They have support Hermione all the way when Hermione had her calling as a witch. I don't see the Grangers as hindrance. And I think, Mr. and Mrs. Weasley (especially Mr. Weasley) has a very good relationship with the Grangers.

I think we've already sort of seen a go ahead from the Grangers. They have let their daughter stay at Ron's how for numerous occasions and over the summer and all that. My guess is that when she asks she asks to stay at Ron's, rather tahn asking to stay at Ginny's or something. So they know that she is with Ron. Perhaps she even has told then about her interest in Ron. The Grangers seem to have no problems with the Weasleys because when they see each other at the train stations and such they always speak. So they must trust the Weasleys to take care of their daughter and all.

I totally agree with the other people that say that Hermione and Ron's little love thing is much bigger than just that.

I think it may have a bigger part than we all think it does, it may just be one of the main things in the next book! I dont know, but I seriously love the fact that atleast one of the couples that actually have feelings for each other, may actually get together!

well, i think it's obvious that ron and hermione will be a couple some time in the next book...
i think it's good that they've waited long enough and now really know that it is love...
i don't worry about krum...
well, i don't think their relationship will be very important... it will be great reading it, though! and i hope at the end of the book, we'll read about their coming marriage or something like that...
i agree, i don't think that any of the parents will be a problem... the kids are growing up, they are of agen now, and i think if they are not as quick as bill and fleur are and want to marry within a week () then mrs. weasley will be thrilled!
i don't think hermione told her parents about her feelings for ron... i think she keeps that secret... even from ginny, although she knows that, of course

Yeah i don't think Hermione would have told her parents about her feelings for Ron...how would she have? I think no one needs to be told, everyone can tell already. I wonder...do you think Ron and Hermione are oblivious to how obvious they both are?
I agree with most of you who say the parents wont be a problem. Mrs Weasley obviously approves of Hermione, where as at first she didn't approve of fluer. I think maybe she even knows the two will end up together. We don't get much information on the Grangers so its hard to say,but no im not thinking they'll be a problem either.
As for Krum returning, I'm certain he will be the final push for Ron and Hermione. Or, maybe Krum will return and Ron will act differently, non-jealous and unthreatened. Well..thats unlikely but maybe! In goblet when Hermione says Ron should have got the courage to ask her first, i think those words will come back as Krum will go to the wedding and Ron will actually take Hermione's advice and get in there before Krum.

Ron and Hermione are obviously destined to be together.
They are so sweet together and some people use the bickering as a reason against this ship but to me it kind of signifies that they are already like a married couple. You know the archetypal married couple relationship were they constantly nag and annoy each other but underneath they love each other desperately. To me the attraction between them is blatant.

And come on there is so much evidence for it. The main one being how Ron goes all surly because he finds out that Hermione kissed Krum...you know, in HBP after the argument with Ginny when Ron goes to Harry 'did she really kiss Krum'. If that doesn't give it away I don't know what does. I mean he even goes so far as to say 'What does she see in him', and calls Krum a git or something....and when Hermione implies that Harry is a good kisser , Ron whips round and says 'How do you know?', sharply.

It seems unlikely, to say the least that these jealous feelings are arising from a purely platonic relationship.

Well, I'm really putting my intelligence at risk here, but what is OBHWF? I know it isn't too friendly toward the two ships I like, but I was wondering what it was anyway, and I didn't want to post it in any of those other threads. I had to ask what the Pumpkin Pie thing was too. Can anyone help me out?

Yes, yes, that was the point in Harry not being able to resist viewing Hermione and Ron as Mr. and Mrs. Weasley. It's a fun literary technique I like to call foreshadowing.

Yes again, but that's why people disagree with it. Jo has always made several things in her books more of a mystery, you know? But honestly, I think it is now getting to the point where this is a no-brainer. I would still be highly confident in this ship even if Jo hadn't have participated in that rather...crummy interview with Emerson. I don't believe that everything in Jo's books always has to be hidden beneath everything. Not everything has to be a major plot twist. Jo has said it herself, and I can go find the exact quote if you'd like. Here:


And I agree with everything about the jealousy.

JustTheDroobles, don't hesitate to ask any question. You are among the family. The biggest risk is not to ask at all.
OBHWF stands for One Big Happy Weasley Family.
If every Weasley survives the war, then readers will see Arthur and Molly and all seven children plus children-in-law live happily ever after.

At least, we know Harry/Ginny can live alongside Ron/Hermione peacefully and happily as we have seen since Book 2. At the end of HBP, Hermione and Ginny could accept Fleur (Harry and Ron have already fell under Fleur's charm since Day 1), so Bill/Fleur is a happy occassion. Percy and Penelope have been treating Harry nicely (Harry allowed Penelope to see his Firebolt in Book 3). The twins, Ron and Ginny seemed okay with the pair. If Percy is back to the family, then we only need to see who Charlie, Fred and George finally end up with.

About the blatantness of Ron and Hermione, I think Jo has been careful enough about this pair until Book 6. I believe Book 6 is where she decided to open all cards, because open it in Book 7 will raise more eyebrows (even showing Harry/Ginny in book 6 is still met with questions, let alone if only in book 7 we got Harry/Ginny!).
I remember my favourite scene from Book 2: Hermione sneaked into the boys' dormitory on Christmas Day, opening the window curtains, shocking Harry and Ron. There are five beds available for Hermione to sit. Three were empty. Dean, Seamus and Neville went home for Christmas. Hermione somehow chose to shove Scabber aside so she could sit on Ron's bed, instead of on the "Scabber-free" bed of Harry. Unconsciously, Hermione prefers to sit with Ron, even if she has to do extra step for it. That's one the earliest anvil hint in the series to foreshadow Ron and Hermione.

Gryffin_hauz_88, nice to see your post again. He..he.. I just keep the flame on with old materials. Well, nothing can be said old, because I never get bored reading the series again and again and always find it fresh, especially when reading about our Ron and Hermione's love life.

Ohhh. One Big Happy Weasley Family. Hmm. Well, I'm sorry to say, but I believe the only way that this wouldn't work is if... if...one of them ....yeah. And I, unfortunately, believe that will happen to one.

Ron and Hermione have been in the books since the beginning, as you so clearly stated. It isn't bad to use old material. It just solidifies what we have. Ron and Hermione may have not been so obvious in the beginning, but I was definitely getting the vibe. I'd read something and I'd be like...hey...Ron? Hermione? Hmm...
Kind of like in the end of Chamber of Secrets where Dumbledore is talking to Molly about something and he happens to mention the Mandrake Draft thing and Ron, out of nowhere, says "So Hermione's okay!" and they weren't even talking about Hermione. Looks like Ickle Ronnikins had someone on his mind...

I love old material...when the wizards were still little ones....aah, young love.

I am pretty sure they won't die.

Some where, i can't remember where, JK Rowling said something about how she wouldn't kill Harrys bestfriend Ron, but she was more surprised no one asked her if Hermione is going to die. Don't think she would kill off Hermione either though sinces its basically JK Rowling her self as a child.



-Bytheway i'm baaaaack-

I am a proud Hermione/Ron Shipper, so I'd like to introduce myself to you all, and I look forward to having many a discussion!

As for the debate at hand (the obvious-nicity of Hermione and Ron's feelings), I believe that from the beginning, Ron and Hermione were showing signs of a future relationship. Even in the first book, they were picking on eachother, and from my experience, that as a child leads to something else in the future. I think that now that they're older, they fight because they're still holding onto that childhood "crush", if you will, and trying to make it into something more. I'm sure everyone notices, especially Harry and Ginny, since they are around the two a lot.

And I hope with every fiber of my Harry-Potter-Loving Soul that Hermione and Ron develop a "more-than-friends" relationship in the next book.

Ravenmist, glad to see you back.
Fawkes09, welcome to the thread. We share your hope that R/Hr will be official in Book 7.
I think Hermione's parents knew about Ron-Hermione relationship. Remember in OOP, Hermione decided to skip skiing with them, to spend Christmas with the Weasleys! That came from Hermione's mouth when Harry asked why she was at 12GP. Hermione's parents realized they have lost the battle of Hermione's attention to Ron Weasley. Hermione was more interested to spend Christmas somewhere in a closed house than to enjoy winter with her parents.

I'm one of those who believe that Ron will die at book seven. That is very horrible, I know but I don't see it as an end for R/Hr relationship. If it will happen, I can't see Hermione marrying someone else and her heart lies on Ron forever. I don't know but maybe it's an effect of the fanfictions.

*GASP!!* Not the Unspeakable!

I do agree with you gryffin_hauz_88, as my favorite characters always tend to kick the bucket (I mean, look what happened to Sirius and Dumbledore...Ron's just got it coming...)

And Ravenmist, I read what you are talking about. It makes me wonder if Jo was hinting that we should be worrying about Hermione. Oh well, I'll be sad if Hermione goes because I know Ron will be devastated, but I want Ron to make it. He's awesome.

All rumours about death should not concern anyone too much. Jo has been hinting that Harry might not survive book 7, then also Ron, and Hermione, and others. I believe she doesn't want us to take anything for granted. Life in Harry Potter Universe is dangerous. I believe Hagrid, Pettigrew and Voldemort will die in book 7, but not any of the trio. Together with the death of Sirius and Dumbledore, all ties to the death of Harry's parents will be gone. Harry can start a new life and so will Ron and Hermione.

i think that ron and hermione could end up together too. book 7 holds some suspense for us all. i also think something might happen to ron but hopefully he won't die. i reckon JKR should do an "after book" so we can all see where harry/ginny, ron/ hermione, bill/fleur, percy/ penelope and hagrid/madame maxime all are with their relstionships, if they're all still alive of course which we're all praying that they are i hope

OK, our thread has been a bit snoozy lately and I'm going to try to help it...for at least as long as this topic will last...

We have talked about Ginny being jealous of Hermione because Hermione always spent so much time with Harry over in the H/G thread. Now I wonder, do any of you believe that Ron has been jealous of Harry? We know that he has because he wants to be famous and all, but regarding Hermione. Has Ron ever had a thought or two that maybe Hermione was paying a little to much attention to Harry? Did that make any sense?

It seems so in HBP, when Hermione said Harry is now more "fanciable". Ron tried to interfere every statement. However, I believe from my reading from Book 1 to 6, Hermione has been sending a clear message to both of the boys: Harry got the advices and friendly aids, Ron got more personal attention (including bickering ). Never did Hermione try to flirt with Harry as far as we read in the books. She always maintained a good personal distance. When Harry was in bad term with Ron, according to Harry, Hermione shared time equally with both of them. I know some people only counted the pages in the books and said Hermione spent more time with Harry, but the canon testified that it is more or less equal. Therefore, I think Ron doesn't have any reasons to be jealous of Harry. Any other opinions?

I thought I always sensed a little bit of it especially when Hermione went on her rant about Harry growing and having a scar and being "more fanciable" and what not. But I got more of a sort of...I don't know how to explain it, but I don't think Hermione would ever compliment Ron like that because I think she does fancy him. Being around Hermione's age, it may be a bit harder to say something like that to a person you actually do like than a person you don't. I don't think she meant anything by it at that point (maybe if Ron had been with Lavender...he wasn't was he?) but she was just trying to explain things to Harry in an easier way. I think the only reason that Ron isn't usually jealous over Hermione is he has never seen Harry do anything flirtacious toward Hermione.

I do agree with what you are saying about when Ron and Harry are apart Hermione spends time with both of them. She really does that anyway though because she spent a great deal of time alone with Ron during the summer of OotP. And I feel like at some points that Ron and Hermione are in on stuff that Harry is not. Kind of like when Harry gets those vibes that Ron and Hermione have rehearsed stuff. So I do think that Ron and Hermione have their own time together. If not, I don't think there would be so much potential for this relationship.

I think at times Ron can be a little jealous, just like the times when Hermione was complimenting Harry in six and Ron jumps in. But because Ron trusts Harry as his best mate he knows Harry's just not interested in Hermione that way, and even if he was he would never do that to him.
I think he was just jealous of the attention Hermione gave Harry. Telling him he's fanciable ect..
We have seen early jealousy from Ron of Lockhart in book two. Not quite as obvious as the Krum jealousy, but it's noticeable.