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ashleigh07

Feb 8 2006, 04:49 AM

Here you go then guys - a brand new shiny thread for:-

HARRY/GINNY SHIPPERS ONLY.

(I don't think I could have made that any clearer

)

I DO NOT want to see any rude, inflammatory or disrespectful posts here from supporters of other ships.

* The VENOM thread for this ship (that is for those who DO NOT support the H/G ship) can be found here.

Please make sure that you read the forums rules as well as the additional ones which apply to the Ships threads here.

The old thread has been archived and may be found here.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'll let all you H/G shippers get back to it...

mxnhpfreak

Feb 8 2006, 05:30 PM

YAY! a new thread, guys!! Thanks, Ash!
How cool is that?

I think I'll mention some of the last things that were said in the old thread:

QUOTE (Learn From This Mistake)

She has a lot to share with Harry as far as that is concerned, as well as having once encountered The Daaaaark Lord (said in a spooky British accent) if she went again with Harry and Ron and Hermione, both she and Harry would have the advantage of perhaps more confidence--you know, once you do something really scary once the second time it can still be scary, but you're a little more confident.

I do think Ginny has some knowledge that will help the trio in the ultimate mission to defeat Voldemort, as I've said before. I don't think she has different or special powers, but I am almost sure that the contact with Tom Riddle gave her the advantage to know him better than some wizards

QUOTE (Just the Droobles)

mxnhpfreak,
Don't get me wrong, I love the concept of Harry and Ginny! I was just trying to stir up some more in depth conversation.

LOL! Just the Droobles, I know what you're trying to do and I really appreciate it

QUOTE (Learn From This Mistake)

Point is, eventually V. will die, and after that is the long-awaited getting back togetherness. I mean, now all she is waiting for is for Harry to do a great deed, she already has the first step down, which is getting him to love her back. She knows that he has feelings for her, and that will sort of encourage her feelings for him, I think. As for Harry--well, he is newly introduced into the whole liking-Ginny-thing, but a year is a long enough time for it to become solid, but still marvelously exciting, not, like, 'old news', or something that he is used to.

I don't think Harry's feelings just appeared in HBP. Or not exactly... I believe that he might had had a wee little thing for her since their firsts encounters, is just that he didn't notice... and he didn't care about noticing.
I think he might have been a bit flattered about this little girl liking him so much, but she was a little girl. So it was not interesting at all.
However, Ginny grew up and when Harry spent so much time at the Burrow before his sixth year, he realized she was not a "cute little girl with a crush on him" anymore. She was now a fanciable young lady who had, apparently, gotten over him.

And, when he saw her snogging Dean he totally confirmed how much she had grown up. That was the event that woke up the "monster" in his chest. And the rest is history

QUOTE (miss know-it-all)

But there might be a 25/100% chance that Dean'll attack Harry because we dont know if he still has a thing for her.

well that would be a bit bizarre.... I don't think Dean is the kind of guy who likes revenge.... but you never know, I guess...

*michelle*

Feb 8 2006, 06:01 PM

QUOTE

I totally agree with you mxnhpfreak!

If I remember correctly, at the end of CoS, Riddle explains that while Ginny opened her heart and her soul to him, he did the same to control her. She must propably know a part of his personnality, how he thinks or what he would do...

QUOTE

Once again, I agree. I believe Harry did have feelings for Ginny before HBP but didn't spend time to understand what they exactly were. I noticed one thing in Ootp for example : at St Mungo's, when they met Lockhart, Harry made a joke that he shared with Ginny. Why her if he didn't feel anything special about her (i don't mean love but something different). He could have joked with Ron or Hermione but he chose Ginny! And in Ootp, Ginny seems to be the only one who can calm down Harry when he had mood swings!

mxnhpfreak

Feb 8 2006, 07:03 PM

*nods happily*

She certainly does!

And I am glad you commented about that little bit of "Tom opens his heart and mind" because yes, I do think I remember him saying something about that. I think that, in a way, he had to let her in on some little secrets so she could know (or rather think) that she could trust him.

What I do believe is that Harry has always had a little somthing for her, as I said before, but he just didn't care about even wondering what would it be. He didn't even looked at her because there were more things to be concerned about: the whole Chamber of Secrets thing, Sirius out of Azkaban, The Triwizard tournament and Cho Chang, Voldemort and Cho Chang... (again

) And he didn't have time to spend with her. Hermione and Ron are different, howevere, because they're in his year, they attend his classes, they both meet at lunch and all that.

Besides, Ginny was, at the beginning, way too shy to even have a conversation with him. This started changing towards the OotP and maybe a little before, in GoF.

She started to be more talkative, but as they never set the bases of a relationship before, she kept being Ron's little sister and a funny and nice girl.. nothing more.

The event that changed everything was the summer Harry spent at the Burrow. He was there for so long... Fred and George were not there, Harry didn't have schoolwork, they were not able to go out, in a few words: there was very little to do in the house and very few people to talk to. Just Ron, Hermione, Ron's parents and Ginny.

Of course there were ocassional visits from members of the Order or from the other Weasley brothers, but yet there were few people living at the Burrow.

So Ginny, Harry, Hermy and Ron had to find the way to have fun and Harry got to know a bit more about Ginny.
He liked what he saw, but didn't know that there was a special feeling growing inside him until he saw the magic detonator: the snogging scene that Gin and Dean gave us...

Just the Droobles

Feb 8 2006, 11:19 PM

From Learn From This Mistake

QUOTE

Perhaps you are right about Ginny not really being a big part of the adventures in the next book, or defeating Voldie, our old pal, but I do think that their attraction to each other will not be replaced with simply a strong friendship. Ginny has had a crush on Harry for soooooo long, and the fact that it never really died away---will it die away just because he can't be with her?

I don't think that they will stop liking each other just because they are away from each other. In a way it could make them stronger. They may sit around and ponder about each other and think "Man, I totally love them." or whatever. It could either strengthen them or destroy them. They won't ever be enemies, I don't think. If they do stop dating, they will still have more than a friendship, but not a relationship. You know what I'm sayin'?

I think they would only break up if they had a bad argument or they actually saw that they wouldn't work or something. You are right, that Ginny has liked Harry for so long, and Harry has known her for a while now, so they may just be able to last. I have confidence in them, but I would still accept it if it didn't work out because I would know that they would still be awesome friends and what not. Though I do sort of prefer them together.

I'm officially your hero, eh? Hey, that's cool by me!

muggleview

Feb 10 2006, 03:35 AM

Great opinions! I like every postings, and now we got into Thread 3!
Whoever in this thread may have realized that Harry and Ginny IS the ultimate pairing Jo Rowling had in mind long long time ago. Ginny is the mystery girl, whereas we are dwelling in Harry's mind every minute.
Jo Rowling certainly has a good idea how differently girls and boys behave towards romance. According to HP series, girls may have realized the feeling earlier than boys do. By the time she reached puberty, Ginny has discovered her prince charming. Harry would not feel anything interesting about girl until 3 years later (GOF). Ginny's spontaneous (or forceful) nature immediately betrayed her feeling to her family, and left her exposed as well as be mercilessly teased by her Twin brothers and Ron. Those gave Harry the pride that he, who suffered low self-esteem under the Dursley, can be adored by a girl. Then, we read how Jo cleverly showed Harry's protective action to Ginny (ignoring her elbow in the butter in COS, not wanting Ginny to know Sirius is out to kill him in POA, etc.) If we can focus only on the scenes where Harry and Ginny both were present, we can see that both don't have intention just to be friends. Harry kept reminding himself that Ginny was very taken with him ("I got you babe" way of thinking). Ginny dutifully submitted her valentine on her first year at Hogwarts and her get-well card in her second year. Harry never ever denied or rejected the action, although he (as a boy in Jo's world) naturally felt awkward with those kinds of attentions.
In book 6, Harry again showed how he thinks he can control Ginny. He one-sidedly decided to break the relationship, taking for granted that Ginny will follow precisely according to his script. Subconsciously Harry has treated Ginny as his girl since book 2. He didn't understand why, so he assumed it was because Ginny's Ron's sister. However, Harry also didn't have the heart to confront Ginny wholeheartedly. In OOP, Harry always had to relent to Ginny's will, although Ginny also showed that she is willing to obey Harry's leadership. This type of give and take is apparently a lesson Jo Rowling wants to convey to the readers, as the key to a healthy relationship, based on her own life experience. Harry and Ginny's relationship is built quietly but very strongly as an important part of the story. As with my fellow beloved posters, I wouldn't be surprised to read Ginny's significant role in Book 7.

*michelle*

Feb 10 2006, 03:34 PM

Whao! Great post Muggleview!

QUOTE

In book 6, Harry again showed how he thinks he can control Ginny. He one-sidedly decided to break the relationship, taking for granted that Ginny will follow precisely according to his script. Subconsciously Harry has treated Ginny as his girl since book 2.

I totally agree with you : Harry tends to take Ginny for granted in HBP. He's worried about Ron but he never seems to consider that maybe Ginny has really gotten over him.

And yes, since book 2, Harry kept an eye on Ginny : she's not much there until OotP but when she's mentioned, Harry always pays attention to what she's doing. But, as a boy during his puberty, he doesn't understand what he really feels!

(No offend to young boys!)

mxnhpfreak

Feb 10 2006, 05:47 PM

oh yes, *michelle*, muggleview is our leader and our hero! One of the best posters here

yay!

And that post was awesome. Even if I was not a H/G shipper I'd have been convinced by it!
The way I see it, Harry has always been, somehow, flattered by the fact he appears to own Ginny's heart and thoughts. I said "appears" because he probably thought or still thinks it is too good to be true. Remember when he said: "it is like something out of someone else's live" referring to their relationship.

As you very well said, muggleview, after all of the low self-esteem he had while he lived his muggle life, the sudden fact that there was a girl who had a 'crush' on him surely was a bit surprising and very flattering.

*michelle* also got a point: during HBP Harry never worries about Ginny. All he is concerned about is Ron.
He takes for granted that she hasn't gotten over him.

After all, she has "always been his".

I've been re-reading HBP this week [I need to wake up and find a book beside me to read a few pages... otherwise I just won't get out of the bed

] and found some very subtle clues all along that I didn't notice the first time I read it and that I didn't remember from the later times.

Like the first trip to Hogsmeade in chapter "Silver and Opals". When the trio is going back to Hogwarts, "Harry's thoughts strayed to Ginny" and he thinks [maybe even feels sorry because] they couldn't met her, because she and her boyfriend were probably "closeted in Madam Pudifoot's teashop, that haunt for happy couples". And he "scowled" after thinking that.

Maybe he hadn't realized that he had fallen for the red-headed freckly girl, but once again I have to say that I really think everybody else might have noticed. Sooner or later, but certainly before the legendary kiss, most of the people surrounding Harry already knew he was feeling something for Ginny...

Just the Droobles

Feb 11 2006, 01:21 AM

I thought that kiss was beautifully written....

It just made me smile.

QUOTE

He didn't understand why, so he assumed it was because Ginny's Ron's sister.

I do believe that he has always had a liking for Ginny, but he always thought those feelings were because she was Ron's sister. She was kind of like his little sister because Ron was his best mate and they both looked out for her. Then in the sixth book when he started to feel stuff that wasn't so "brotherly/sisterly" he had to ask himself are the feelings because she's Ron's sister? Or something else?

Their relationship has always worried me though. I would like to see them together, but I can't help but think it may turn out just to be a teenage romance. I mean, that monster in the "stomach" was pretty adolescent.

QUOTE

Then, we read how Jo cleverly showed Harry's protective action to Ginny (ignoring her elbow in the butter in COS, not wanting Ginny to know Sirius is out to kill him in POA, etc.) If we can focus only on the scenes where Harry and Ginny both were present,

I actually thought the butter scene was actually pretty funny. He seemed to just treat her as just another person in the Weasley family, kind of like she was a brother, but...a sister. You know what I mean? I guess like this says, I just need to see more scenes of Harry and Ginny together to know that their relationship is very solid and it isn't just a good, temporary romance.

QUOTE

The way I see it, Harry has always been, somehow, flattered by the fact he appears to own Ginny's heart and thoughts. I said "appears" because he probably thought or still thinks it is too good to be true. Remember when he said: "it is like something out of someone else's live" referring to their relationship.

This is another thing I've thought about that worried me about these two. I wondered if when Harry learned Ginny liked him, he pushed it to the back of his mind, and upon knowing she liked him, he started to have growing feelings towards her. I feel like it was easier for him to start to like her when he knew that she liked him back. Is this confusing? I also don't want Harry to be ignorant enough to think that he owns any part of Ginny in any way, whether it be her feelings her thoughts or just her in general. Sure she can be thinking of him, but he does not own her.

They are both super independant people. They need no leaning post. It could all end in an argument for all we know. I mean, every couple has arguments, and Harry and Ginny could mend those easily. But if they disagree over something and they are both stuck in their ways, it could end very ugly and very fast.

I guess my main thoughts are that I want to see them together, but I have a lot of worries that could be potential for break-up, or them not to get back together.

*michelle*

Feb 11 2006, 06:12 AM

QUOTE

I wondered if when Harry learned Ginny liked him, he pushed it to the back of his mind, and upon knowing she liked him, he started to have growing feelings towards her. I feel like it was easier for him to start to like her when he knew that she liked him back.

I don't think Harry likes Ginny because he knows she likes him too. First, when he understands in CoS that she has a crush on him (at this point, it's only a crush), Harry doesn't want to embarrass her and treat her normally. But when he starts getting interested in girls, his first choice is not Ginny : it could have been easy for him to ask her out but he goes for Cho.

Then, after their disastrous relationship, Harry spends more time with Ginny and that's when he gets to know her better. It's at this point that he subconscioulsy realize he has feelings for her because she's a great girl.

I also don't think that they could break-up on a bad argument. They could be very angry at each other for a very bad argument, but at the end, when you love someone deeply, even if you are strong minded, you make it easy to stop the fight. I speak from my own experience so believe me Just The Droobles!

And of course, the kiss in the common room is memorable!

I hope that they will keep it for the film!

Just the Droobles

Feb 11 2006, 07:28 AM

But sometimes it can be easier to like someone when you know the feeling is mutual. Maybe that's not the way it is with Harry, but I was just...you know...well, anyway, I know what you're saying and all.

I know they might love each other, but exactly how strong can their love be? They are reenagers, and even the ones in magical worlds aren't subject to normal human ways. Right now, I can't say I think they are madly deeply in love, but I can say they really do have a great love for each other, that is more than friendly or siblingly.

Siblingly? It's late, I'm starting to make up words!!!

mxnhpfreak

Feb 11 2006, 05:16 PM

QUOTE

Right now, I can't say I think they are madly deeply in love, but I can say they really do have a great love for each other, that is more than friendly or siblingly.

Neither I can't ensure that. "Madly deply in love" is a phrase that, as I see it, is extremely difficult to use.
I'm sorry, but I think it will be a bit hard for you to understand what I am about to say because, probably, I won't make any sense at all, however I'll try to explain as best as I could.

I don't know if they actually love each other with all their might, that is very difficult to ensure. Sometimes, for example, you think you deeply love someone, that he/she is your life and all that.
But then something, whatever, happens... and you realize the love was not nearly as strong as you thought so.

You still know you loved that person in a way, but you come to the conclusion that the feeling was not as powerful, and as strong you thought it was.

However, I am convinced that what Harry and Ginny feel for each other is not "siblingly"-love, friendly-love and it is certainly not lust.
It is love, plain and simple.

Why am I so sure?
Because the way Jo has written this shows me a few signs to truly determine that it is love.

* Even though Ginny never got over Harry, she never wanted to press him or stalk him (unlike, say Romilda Vane). She didn't want him to be uncomfortable, so she stayed silent and later on, tried to be his friend.

*Despite this fact, despite her decission to avoid showing interest in him that might make him uneasy, Ginny never (I believe) stopped trying to know as much as she could about Harry.

I believe she always knew some things about him, things that Hermione told her, things that she overheard, things that he told her... etc.

That's why I believe she has a decent understanding of Harry's thoughts. She knows or at least is somewhat aware of what to expect from him. Maybe she doesn't know some part of him, but not for lack of trying, and I believe she will get to fully know him. Unless she already does. Because she probably mannaged to uncover those secrets of Harry that she didn't know while they were together.

* When Harry is with Cho during OotP, Ginny advices him to go with her and talk her because she knows or thinks they've had problems. She wants him happy, even if it hurts her.

* Harry was extremely happy with her. Even if we didn't get the chance to actually read a lot of their romance, we saw some scenes that were very significant. Like the "much more macho" scene. I saw it as Jo's way to tell the readers: "look how happy is Harry, and look how little worried he is"

As "the Choosen one" Harry has had a lot of pressure. The kind of pressure all of the superheros have on their shoulders. And he has never been a "normal" person.

That is why this little moments make him so happy, because he feels a part of it, a part of the normal.
Everybody needs to feel, once in a while, that we belong. While Harry was with Ginny, he did. And that leads me to my last point.

*In spite of all that happiness, he decided to put an end to their relationship.
Why? because he wanted to protect her. Wrong choice? yes, maybe. But a completely un-selfish one (does that word even exist?

).

Had he not cared about her, he would have keep up the romance. But if he stopped to think about the possible harm she could take by staying with him, we can assume he does care for her.

And if he broke up with her, and decided to renounce to that happines he felt by her side, decided to sacrifice his happines, that only means he does love her.

I, for one, would never sacrifice my happiness for someone I don't love. And even less for someone I don't care about.

Those are my reasons to believe what Ginny and Harry have is love.
And I insist, I can't "rate" their love. I can't say "it is deep love" or "it is just weak love" or anything similar.

That is something that only time will tell.

Just the Droobles

Feb 11 2006, 06:45 PM

Well written I might add, and I do infact understand what you mean. But some people think they are sooooooo crazy in love and some how it can't be that incredibly deep. Love starts out rocky, and if you can get through it, it will smooth out and get much better.

QUOTE

However, I am convinced that what Harry and Ginny feel for each other is not "siblingly"-love, friendly-love and it is certainly not lust.
It is love, plain and simple.

I do agree. I never thought their love was sibling-like, and I knew it was way more than just friends. And Harry's not a real lust kind of person to me. But I can't help but worry. I worry about Ron and hermione and I worry about Harry and Ginny. I just can't help it. I do believe that they love each other very much, but like you said, only time can tell--specifically it will tell if their love like this will last.

QUOTE

* Even though Ginny never got over Harry, she never wanted to press him or stalk him (unlike, say Romilda Vane).

Yes it is very true that Ginny stopped stalking Harry. I don't really think she ever 'stalked' him though. But she's definitely not all whacked out like Romilda. And that is a good thing.

And she did indeed really care about Harry even though she gave up on him because she wanted him to be happy. Whther he was with her or another girl, she always wanted what Harry wanted. Even if it was a cost to her own likings.

Ginny, since about book four or so, has always treated Harry as a normal person. After she stopped being so *squee!*-ish around him, she treated him like a friend, or like she would treat a brother(but not totally sibling-like). I have no idea where their relationship will go, but I'm sure they each know what's best for each other. Well, JKR knows best.

*michelle*

Feb 11 2006, 09:49 PM

We're getting into considerations about love : we're not taking the easy way!

But anyway, I also agree that we can't rate Harry and Ginny's love for each other. We can tell it's love because it's obvious they care for each other, but as we lack of H/G scenes, it's hard to tell how they act when they are alone. That's why I think Jo must write in book 7 a scene with only Harry and Ginny when they try to sort things out about their relationship. And it's also very right that only time can tell if their love will be strong enough. Because being in love when everything is fine is not hard but you really get to know someone when things turn bad for you and then you see if you can rely on the person and vice versa. If you love someone when there are hard times, then you know you really love them all the time. I hope I'm not too confusing when I write that!

However, I don't think their age is much of an issue. If you think about it, James and Lily got married right after Hogwarts so they were approximatively eighteen. Age doesn't interfere with love but it's true that you have more experience when you're older.

Lachlan

Feb 11 2006, 10:13 PM

I love this thread! I think Harry and Ginny are a great couple! Wonderful thread! I wish Harry wouldn't have dumped Ginny at the nd, though. I hope they get back together. Yes, I agree with everyone that with love, age does not really matter at all. Harry and Ginny are perfect, and I think they will get married as soon as Harry completes his mission. They are so perfect!

Lachy

Just the Droobles

Feb 12 2006, 05:55 AM

I think a lot of people get married right out of Hogwarts, don't they? Ron's parents got married on the spur of the moment, but I don't think they married right out of Hogwarts. Hmm...I can't remember. Obviously, in their world, if people love each other enough they will marry. Regardless of age. Look at Bill and Fleur. Fleur just got out of school. He's four years (or somewhere around there) older than her, that's not a big gap, but age surely didn't matter. They've got to be doing something right because you never hear about divorces in Harry Potter.

Mrs. Radcliffe

Feb 12 2006, 06:02 PM

Yeah I hope no one gets divorced in the last book! I agree, they nust be doing something right, who knows, maybe it's magic...

mxnhpfreak

Feb 13 2006, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (Just the Droobles @ Feb 11 2006, 05:52 PM)

Well written I might add, and I do infact understand what you mean.

Thanks, Droobles! I tried my best not to confuse you all!

QUOTE (*michelle* @ Feb 11 2006, 08:56 PM)

If you love someone when there are hard times, then you know you really love them all the time. I hope I'm not too confusing when I write that!

Nah! that was not confusing at all.... and you really got a point, *michelle*: the war shall be the ultimate test for their love. If it is true and powerful love, it will most certainly make it through the war... if not... well... I'd rather don't think about that...

About the weddings and never-happening divorces, I believe wizards and witches might have somewhat of a sixth (or seventh*) sense that helps them findo "the right one" their "perfect match.
Although the reason why they fail in certain relationships (i.e. 'Won-Won'/'Lav-Lav' and Harry/Cho) is because they had not yet learn how does that 'instinct' works, I believe

*If it is a "seventh sense" it should be very powerful... again the 'seven-is-the-most-powerful-number' thing

*dementor*

Feb 13 2006, 07:40 PM

I am not really a great supporter of this ship unfortunately but i have some great news for you shippers...i was looking through HBP and i found this...

" 'hang on,' said a voice close by harry's left ear and he caught a sudden waft of the flowery smell he had picked up in slughorn's dungeon. he looked round and saw that ginny had joined them......"
page 182 UK edition HBP.....
in the dungeons there was Amortentia and you smell diferent things....harry smelt a flowery smell, the same smell that ginny always smelt of! lol...so what do you think?

Just the Droobles

Feb 14 2006, 12:13 AM

I caught that Amortentia thing a long time ago, mainly cause my friend let me in on it. But it nice to see you in here giving us good news even though you don't support this ship.

Amortentia is supposed to give you the three smells that appeal to you the most right? He smelled the treacle from Mrs. Weasley I think, wood presumably from a broomstick, and then Ginny's perfume. So I guess that's how it went down.

Interesting thought on the 6th/7th sense mxnhpfreak. I wonder if they have a sense or something. I think they are actulla y quite like us in that area. I think every human being can sense whether someone is right for them. It's just a matter of feeling, not magical talent.

*michelle*

Feb 14 2006, 10:00 AM

Well, *dementor*, Amortentia is the strongest love potion and it's supposed to smell differently for everyone, according to what attracts us the most. So obviously, when Harry smells Ginny's flowery scent in the dungeon, it indicates that he has strong feelings for Ginny, we could even say it's love but then, it's difficult to "rate" this love.

Moreover, Harry's attraction to Ginny is slowly indicated throughout HBP. When I began reading HBP, I honestly didn't expect Harry to fall for Ginny. I wasn't against this possibility but I thought that Ginny had really gotten over him. But when I read it, I began to notice that Ginny was much more mentioned than previously and I really had serious suspicions that Harry and Ginny would get together before the end of the book when Harry asked Ginny to search a compartment with him and she refused. Harry was so disappointed but I had still doubts : maybe Harry simply didn't want to be alone.
But after, I don't remember when exactly, Harry is talking with Hermione and Ron about Malfoy in chapter eleven (I know, there are lots of moments when he is talking about Malfoy

), Hermione and Ron tried to convince him that Malfoy couldn't bring something dangerous inside the castle. When Harry thought about another possibility, he stared at Ginny without apparent reason. And I wonder why Harry would suddenly stare at Ginny at this important moment when he wants to convince Ron and Hermione that he's right about Malfoy : he could have stared anywhere but it was at Ginny!
And lastly, I was definitely convinced in chapter twelve when Harry is so happy about his next lesson with Dumbledore that he invites Ginny to come with the Trio in Hogsmeade. If you think about it, during the three previous books, there were a lot of Hogsmeade's trip but there was nearly no mention of Ginny in them, except in OotP for the DA. So again, why Jo would make Harry suddenly invite Ginny to come with the Trio? Because it's useful to the plot of the action : it definitely shows that Harry wants Ginny to be around him.

Well, that was my viewpoint about HBP : I hope it has helped you, *dementor*.

*dementor*

Feb 14 2006, 03:56 PM

QUOTE

I caught that Amortentia thing a long time ago, mainly cause my friend let me in on it. But it nice to see you in here giving us good news even though you don't support this ship.

ooops.....i suppose i was too late!

*michelle* , i appreciate that you wrote your opinion and it will be greatly respected. Hopefully i will turn back as a H/G shipper like before

mxnhpfreak

Feb 14 2006, 09:19 PM

QUOTE (*dementor* @ Feb 14 2006, 03:03 PM)

*michelle* , i appreciate that you wrote your opinion and it will be greatly respected. Hopefully i will turn back as a H/G shipper like before

like before?

what do you mean? did you stop being a H/G shipper? why?
what made you change your mind, *dementor*?

btw, *michelle* that was an awesome mini-essay... It described exactly wht I felt when I was reading the book... except that I've been always a crazy H/G shipper (since book2, specially) and I was so nervous I was being very skeptical about the whole thing. It doesn't make any sense but that's how it is...

I was expecting this ship to sail since book 3! And all the way there've been little hints here and there, and when I was reading HBP I thought all those little things were just hints, bigger and more obvious hints, but still just hints.

However I was truly happy when I read about Harry's inner 'creature'... I actually jumped in my bed! Not to talk about the legendary kiss, that made me shriek and laugh and giggle as though I, myself, had been kissed! lol!

I would like to discuss with you something I am sure has been brought here before, but certainly not in this thread and not with this shippers:

What do you think about JKR's way to write the romance of Harry and Ginny?

I, personally, expected something more... I don't know how to say it... exciting? funny? maybe...

The way it has been built all along the series is just marvelous! I couldn't expect less from our beloved JKR.
However, I believe the principal part, which is *IMHO* the kiss could've been a bit more exciting... I don't know I guess I was expecting a lot more hints before we actually realized they were going to be together.

I would've loved it if Jo would've given us awkward moments between those two... and make us see that Ginny never got over him and Harry is completely falling for her.
That would've been very exciting for me, and funny

Don't missinterpret me, I loved the kiss and the whole romance, but I was really looking forward to see more awkward moments. Like Harry making fun of himself in front of her, or staring at her with his jaw dropped and she blushing furiously... I don't know...

But what do you think?

Just the Droobles

Feb 15 2006, 02:45 AM

QUOTE

ooops.....i suppose i was too late!

It doesn't matter *dementor*!! I really respected you for coming in here and telling us even though you don't fully support us. I know you are a multiple shipper and I truly respect anyone who can do that, because, shamefully, I cannot.

Can I be Devil's Advocate for one post?? Goody!!

They say Amortentia gives us the three smells of the things that attract us. Harry smells treacle, presumably because it tastes good; he smells broomstick handle because he likes brooms; but I must ask, does he just like how Ginny's perfume smelled or was that just the clue he attracts to Ginny? He could just be liking the perfume after all. But then what happens through the rest of the book doesn't really support that he just likes her smell.

Also, I thought all of the monster in the stomach and al that was quite cheesy. I couldn't really decide if the monster really resided in Harry's stomach. He is a teen after all. Though I really enjoyed the kissing scene, I thought a lot of it was super cheesy. Especially the break up scene. I felt like I was rewatching the movie "the Notebook" or something. While I do like the prospect of Ginny and Harry together, I just thought it was all rather corny. But hey, that's what makes the books what they are.

*dementor*

Feb 15 2006, 09:49 PM

Thanks JustTheDrooobles, and congrats for being a prefect!!

QUOTE

like before?

what do you mean? did you stop being a H/G shipper? why?
what made you change your mind, *dementor*?

yea i used to be a H/G shipper and i hated H/Hr but i got persuaded and so i wasnt a H/G shipper but i am halfway....i will be soon.

hopefully

mxnhpfreak

Feb 16 2006, 03:41 PM

*dementor* I admire you for being a multi-shipper... I wouldn't know how to deal with it

However, as an avid H/G shipper, I can't help but hope you actually come back to this side but that's up to you

whoa! Just the Droobles, mate! You are a prefect! that's so cool!
Congratulations!!!

And again being Devil's Advocate

what am I going to do with you?
lol! I love you for giving us other points of view, though

it makes this thread interesting.

I don't like what I am about to say, but you could have a point there, it could be just Ginny's smell that atracts to Harry, but then again, the rest of the book is sparkled with Harry-likes-Ginny moments.

I once again insist that they do love each other, the thing is we just don't know how much. And that, my friend, is something is starting to make me be a little worried...

And that's your fault, Droobles! [lol, kidding

]

Guys, I want to tell you something, when I read HBP I do believe the book was very clear to me, I didn't have problems understanding it. However, I am very happy to say that the Spanish version of the book will *finally* stroke the libraries of Spain, South America, and of course Mexico [me home] next Thursday (one week left! yay!).
And maybe, reading it in my own language will give me, somehow, another points of view about certain things and situations.

That must be interesting

Just the Droobles

Feb 17 2006, 02:55 AM

Thanks for the congrats mxnhpfreak!

As in the words of Rita Skeeter, "Everyone loves a rebel..." and I guess I'm sort of one as I'm in here stirring this cauldron the wrong way. BWAHhahahaha!!!

But hey, just think of how boring it would be if all of us just agreed with each other? Well, I have to say, like you, I agrre that they love each other, but we don't know to what extent. I am hoping for more one-on-one with the two of them so we can really get them sorted out.

I'll ask the same question in here as I did in another thread:
If Harry and Ginny DON'T get together, why do you think they wouldn't? What would cause them to call it quits? Disclaimer: Please don't say "They will get together!" because that doesn't really help too much.

Have a good one!!

mxnhpfreak

Feb 18 2006, 07:45 PM

I have to warn you, my dear Just the Droobles, that I don't feel inspired at all... but I'll do my best

Ok... so this is a real question. I don't think it makes much sense to discuss why wouldn't they get together, when we are supporters... but it is a good question and I like to have more points of view.

I believe that the only thing that would put them apart definitely, would be one of them changing drastically (or both, actually).

I don't see the Ginny and Harry that we know so far, making the break up definite. But people do change and wizards are not the exception.
Probably, (I hope not) one of them or both will change and realiza that the other one is not exactly 'the one'.

For example, Harry could change his mind or "grow up" or whatever and come up with the conclusion that Ginny is not what he wants nor what he was looking for... or viceversa.

The other thing that might separate them is the distance. If Harry doesn't take Ginny with him and she gets mad at his decision and acuses him of "ignoring her" or something like that... well that'd be a reason to say "bye".

I don't find another reason why they wouldn't get back together... except ... well if one of them... you know... the "D" word
*shudders*

I made an effort, but I warned you I was not inspired... *sigh*
I'll come back with more... probably

Just the Droobles

Feb 18 2006, 08:04 PM

I know we are supporters, but as supporters, we have to dicuss all areas or the SHIP we want to sail, don't we? I know none of us want to think about it, but what if it happens? Then we'll all be sad, and we wouldn't have had any time to talk about it or reassure ourselves that they will stay together. Plus, this thread is losing some steam, I think.

I want you to understand that I do support this ship. I would rather see Harry with Ginny than anyone else. But we have to discuss everything about this ship, even the stuff we would rather not mention. Would you support some organization if you did not know every single solitary thing about it? Even the cons? We have to discuss the bad, and then show our supportive-ness by answering question, and supplying our opinion. That's what these threads are for.

As for the two of them cancelling, I think it is doubtful, but I still have about a 10% worry in my head. I know Harry will be away for a long time in book 7, but what I don't know is if Ginny will decide to go. They told her not to come, but will she obey? If not, will it make their affection grow or will it deminish? While I believe it will grow, you just never know what JKR could throw at us.

But if the unspeakable happens (one of them...you know...) then obviously they couldn't be together. At least not here on Earth. I think it would definitely increase love though if the Unspeakable were to happen though. I don't think that they would just lose interest.

Learn From This Mistake

Feb 19 2006, 07:46 PM

JTD, those are good points that you made about the sort of 'need of controversy' for lack of better words..I will do my best to try and stir something up...erlack...
I think that if Harry or Ginny were to break up for good, it would probably be for the same reason that Frodo had to leave the Shire, in the end. I think that Harry might be too wounded or too emotionally tired after going through a whirlwind of Book Seven Adventures to live contentedly. I don't firmly believe this would happen or anything, but it is a possibility. Also, there is always the thought of Ginny getting so-called Tired Of Waiting, or whatever, and just going ahead and getting on with her life, getting back with Dean, or whatever. I don't really think that would happen either, though.
The other thing is of course the one that we don't really want to think about it, but we all have...

I don't think that THAT will happen either though...I'm sorry...It's very hard to give up ideas that you are very lackluster about--or want to avoid thinking of. I hope those put some ideas into peoples heads..maybe?
xo

*michelle*

Feb 20 2006, 03:51 PM

QUOTE

I would like to discuss with you something I am sure has been brought here before, but certainly not in this thread and not with this shippers:

What do you think about JKR's way to write the romance of Harry and Ginny?

Well, I think that she could have done a lot better about them. Like you, mxnhpfreak, I would have liked to see more H/G moments throughout the book.

What I don't understand is why she keeps telling about their interactions but she does not describe them. For example, she writes that Harry tries his most to be with Ginny, to talk with her before the kiss in the common room. She could have written some of these talks between the two of them. It could have helped us, H/G shippers, to understand on what their relationship is built and how they interact together. That's why we are now wondering whether their love will be strong enough to resist the war and even after, as I've read in the last posts! Because in fact we don't know much about the matter!

And also, I regret the fact that she didn't give details about what happened after the kiss in the commom room. We know Harry wanted it but Ginny seemed to me a little passive : she let herself be kissed and she obediently followed Harry outside without asking a word of explanation (I don't mean explanation on the kiss, it's quite obvious

, but on his intentions). To my mind, if I had been in Ginny's place : in love with a boy for five years who suddenly kisses me, I would have enjoyed the kiss and then asked why this sudden interest. But Ginny followed Harry as if it was quite normal in fact. It could have been such a legendary talk between them, with awkward moments : Harry getting all confused, Ginny blushing, etc... Harry could have told her about what he likes the most in her and how he suffered to see her with Dean during the whole year, that kind of stuff!

It was quite frustating for me to see it coming during the whole book but never really see how they enjoy each other's presence when they are all alone.

QUOTE

I think that if Harry or Ginny were to break up for good, it would probably be for the same reason that Frodo had to leave the Shire, in the end. I think that Harry might be too wounded or too emotionally tired after going through a whirlwind of Book Seven Adventures to live contentedly.

I totally agree with you, Learn From This Mistake. Harry might get too emotionnally damaged to ever recover from the final battle but I really hope it won't happen. I usually find that sad love stories are the most beautiful ones but I also like happy ends!

mxnhpfreak

Feb 20 2006, 05:01 PM

QUOTE (Just the Droobles @ Feb 18 2006, 08:04 PM)

I want you to understand that I do support this ship. I would rather see Harry with Ginny than anyone else. But we have to discuss everything about this ship, even the stuff we would rather not mention.
[...]
We have to discuss the bad, and then show our supportive-ness by answering question, and supplying our opinion. That's what these threads are for.

Droobles, I've never truly thought that you don't support the ship! On the contrary!
I told you once (or twice) that I appreciate having you here a lot! I love the fact that you give us something to talk about. Even if that 'something' is one of the topics we'd rather don't mention.

I quite agree that we have to be "prepared for the worst", and that we need to consider every single aspect of the SHIP, pros and cons. Good and bad, chances, etc.

So, just to clear that point, I don't think you are a non-supporter. I appreciate your suggestions for topics to be discussed and I am more than glad to have you in here

As to the possibility of them breaking up definitely, I think they could only be brought apart by either the "unspeakable" or their own changes.
I explained that in my last post, but if any of them do change or grow up quicker than the other (they HAVE to grow up, but if their love is strong enough, they'll do it together), then they would no longer want to be together.... sadly [and not very likely], it could be.

Just the Droobles

Feb 20 2006, 06:24 PM

Well that's good... I feel reassured now!!

Look!!! It's Harry and Ginny!!! I am totally in love with all the new smilies!!

There's so much magic in Harry and Ginny!!

Ok, anyway, I also wish that we could've gotten some more moments between the two of them, and hopefully we'll at least get one in the next book. I think that would help us out, so we could know if they are going to be together forever or just a short time, or not at all.

Do you think that Ginny may ever decide to go back with Dean? Why or why not?

Mrs. Radcliffe

Feb 20 2006, 07:52 PM

No. I think she will wait for Harry, when whatever is coming has ended. Dunno if that made sense, but anyway.

I think deep down inside she knows Harry still likes her and he wouldn't have ended things if her life wasn't in danger. That showed her that he cares for her very much and I dont think she wants anyone else except Harry.

By the way, I love the new smiles too, especialy this one:

HeHe!

mxnhpfreak

Feb 20 2006, 08:19 PM

wooo! new smileys! I didn't even notice... lol! I don't think it was wise to get the "Im with a stupid" one, though probably it will give some problems to the mods...

although I totally love this one:

This smiley thing is actually rather off topic (I loved that one as well)
Sorry, mods and thread-mates, but they're just as adorable as Harry and Ginny

After that comment about the new smilies, I have to say that I can't see Ginny going back with Dean. Even if she and Harry do not get back together

or even if the Unspeakable happens

I can't see her going back with him.
As I already said, I don't think she ever loved him. Maybe she somewhat cared for her and probably she liked him, but her heart was always Harry's

(that's a bit corny... ).

I am really looking forward to more H-G moments because due to the memories and the lessons with Dumbledore, I believe, there was not enough room in the book for Harry's romantic life. Even though we were able to see more romance around him and his friends, but not exactly his happiest moments (with Ginny).

Just the Droobles

Feb 20 2006, 08:25 PM

Man, if you thought that there was no room for love life in the 6th book, there will be absolutely zero time for love in the next one!!! Unless Harry takes like three week vacations between his horcrux hunting, then I don't see how we are going to get it. I'm hoping he'll use Hogwarts as his base, so he'll be using it as his hideout/home so we won't lose that environment and we won't lose all the people there, like Ginny and all them.

freezing

Feb 21 2006, 01:31 AM

QUOTE (Just the Droobles @ Feb 20 2006, 08:25 PM)

You're the best!

I like very much the Harry/Ginny couple.
I mean..Ginny has been in love with him for ages!
One of my best friends, is a H/G shipper since I know her..that's quite 4 years. She wrote about them even before 'the kiss'. She's a little crazy, I must say.

However, I think Rowling gave us that little bit of sunlight befor the tempest.
From now (after book 6) on, Harry has so much more to worry about than his romance with Gin. But I think that Ginny wouldn't leave Harry alone, even if he would try to convince her that is for her own good. But for Ginny..Harry's her own good

It took 6 books for a kiss. So, I guess that for Hermione/Ron romance we'll have to wait until book 13..Oh..merlin's beard! There will not be book 13!!!

I mean, after the Yule Ball I expected some improvements in book 5..But, no improvement detected..

PS: Maybe I'm going alittle OT, but..I absolutely have to ask this one:
user posted image

Which premiere is that on the pic? POA maybe? Where can I find the clip?
Thanx

Just the Droobles

Feb 21 2006, 01:38 AM

I'm sorry, but I'm just in a really happy mood.

QUOTE

So, I guess that for Hermione/Ron romance we'll have to wait until book 13..Oh..merlin's beard! There will not be book 13!!!

Oh, cracked me up!!!

Literally!

I know Ginny has been like following Harry since the first book, but I think her stalking is different than someone like say, Romilda Vane. Ginny actullay follows and she actually likes Harry. Romilda just has a weird sort of obsession.

Can I just write something?

His eyes are a green as a fresh pickled toad
His hair as dark as a blackboard
He's really divine, I wish he were mine,
The hero who conquered the Dark Lord.

Love it!!!

*michelle*

Feb 21 2006, 07:41 AM

QUOTE

I know Ginny has been like following Harry since the first book, but I think her stalking is different than someone like say, Romilda Vane. Ginny actullay follows and she actually likes Harry. Romilda just has a weird sort of obsession.

I agree with you, Just the Droobles.
Ginny loves Harry since the beginning but she wasn't the fan type. She didn't follow him all the time. She was longing for him but, except for the wonderful Valentine message

, which she never officially claimed, she was very discreet about her feelings.

Another thing that could tell us that there is a true deep love between Harry and Ginny is that, in OotP, in the library, even if we know that Ginny had still feelings for Harry, she tries to help him with Cho because she thinks he's worried about her. I think it's a great sign of true love and maturity from Ginny because it must make her suffer but she places Harry's welfare before hers. She was willing to see him happy even it was to the detriment of her own happiness.

And, yes, the new smileys are fantastic !

freezing

Feb 21 2006, 12:59 PM

QUOTE (Just the Droobles @ Feb 21 2006, 01:38 AM)

QUOTE

I'm sorry, but I'm just in a really happy mood.

QUOTE

Oh, cracked me up!!!

Literally!

Just the effects of a trip with the Weasley twins. I'm all right now

QUOTE

Can I just write something?

Yeah..you did

I know..you're right about Ginny self-control about her feeling about Harry, Romilda was a crazy-fan, but even if she had tried to move on on that feelings, involving herself in other relationships..I mean..Dean and Michael are ok..but to her eyes..no one is PERFECT just like Harry.

QUOTE

she was very discreet about her feelings.

Yes..apart the 'petrificus totalus' that seems to hit her every time she saw him

But you know..growing up is such a healing-potion sometimes.
her feelings about harry hadn't changed, but she changed her way to relate to them..
Is all that I said making any sense?

Learn From This Mistake

Feb 22 2006, 01:58 AM

Wow, freezing and Just The Droobles, I really like what you've written, and I completely agree (Ha-ha, unlike usual...)!

And, although, I guess that Ginny isn't completely creepy in her stalking-ness of Harry...I do feel that, apart from the past two books, she hasn't exactly been very discreet. I mean, in the first and second books she goes all nutso around him (in a very appealing way, of course) and...well...I can't really remember her in the third one, but in the fourth one, around the time of the Yule Ball, she gets really down when Harry asks Cho to the ball, and then she becomes all sad, because she agreed to go with Neville because she thought that it was pointless to wait around for Harry, and she really wanted to go to the ball (there was no way she could go unless an older guy asked her, since the ball was for fourth years and up.)
Unless you were referring to only the sixth book. I'm sorry if I misunderstood. Also, I have a question that's a little offtopic--the poem that Just The Droobles posted:
His eyes are a green as a fresh pickled toad
His hair as dark as a blackboard
He's really divine, I wish he were mine,
The hero who conquered the Dark Lord.
...Which character wrote that, and on which page or whatever? Because I keep on seeing it around (I saw it on a humongo H/G website written across a wallpaper) and I can't find it! Yikes! Anyhow, if somebody could tell me, thanks so much

(Sorry, I'm kind of addicted to the santa guy. It's just that I keep on imagining Harry with a big white beard on.) xo

Just the Droobles

Feb 22 2006, 02:17 AM

Ahhh......
I love this poem, so I would be glad to find it for you.
Ginny wrote it in Chamber of Secrets.
Oh, geez, I don't have my book with me....Your book has pictures right? Well, it's in the chapter with the picture of the little singing elf guy. I'm sorry I couldn't help you out more.

I'll look for it later, and if no one answers before I return tomorrow, I'll get in in here.

*michelle*

Feb 22 2006, 06:52 AM

When I said she was very discreet about her feelings, I meant that Ginny didn't make any attempts to get Harry, except the Valentine poem.

Of course, she acts weird around him, she is clumsy and does not know what to say but she never asks him out, she never uses some love potions. On the contrary, Romilda Vane was always trying to be with Harry, to seduce him. Ginny didn't bother Harry with her feelings, although her attitude was obvious. But if you notice, Harry never complains about her attitude, he is always nice to her and also protective of her whereas he can't stand Romilda's multple attempts to seduce him : on the train, in the common room etc...

OK, I recognise it wasn't appropriate to call Ginny's attitude discreet but I hope you see what I mean.

freezing

Feb 22 2006, 03:10 PM

It's all quite clear now!:lol:
It was so even before, don't worry

Anyway I think Harry didn't really noticed Ginny's behaviour towards him till book 6.
This is because, in my opinion, Ginny tried to move on on her feelings about him an he, magically noticed her. Non to talk about the Gryffindor new Quidditch seeker thing:rolleyes:
I mean harry would have thought 'WOW! Not only she's gorgeous..she can also play a marvellous Quidditch! I definitely have to ask her out!'
So there they go..

Honestly speaking..If I were in Ginny's shoes I don't think I would have reacted so well when he broke up with her.
She obvuously was so quiet and understanding because she passed her previous 4 years without him. She could go on even without him, after their short, but intense, relationship.

QUOTE

Harry never complains about her attitude, he is always nice to her and also protective of her

Course he is! He's Harry Potter!!

Just the Droobles

Feb 22 2006, 11:09 PM

QUOTE

Honestly speaking..If I were in Ginny's shoes I don't think I would have reacted so well when he broke up with her.

I think she knew it was coming. And plus, he had good reason. He broke it off because he cares about her. But I tell you what, if I were Ginny I would definitely be going along for the fight along with Hermione and Ron. It doesn't really matter who goes because Harry is going to care about everyone he takes. Voldemort is going to kill one of them, and it will be the one Harry cares about the most. And in my opinion, it isn't Ginny. Not Hermione either. So I'll leave you to try and figure out who it is.

Oh, and about the poem thing, Chamber of Secrets, "The Very Secret Diary," page 238. Hope that helps.

freezing

Feb 22 2006, 11:33 PM

QUOTE (Just the Droobles @ Feb 22 2006, 11:09 PM)

But I tell you what, if I were Ginny I would definitely be going along for the fight along with Hermione and Ron.

Me too. That's fore sure.
And I think Rowling will set her on Harry's side during the Battle, whatever Harry wants or not.

QUOTE

Voldemort is going to kill one of them, and it will be the one Harry cares about the most. And in my opinion, it isn't Ginny. Not Hermione either. So I'll leave you to try and figure out who it is.

You sure about that?

I'm afraid one of the trio member is going to die too, and I know they won't be together in the end of the story. They shared so many adventures and the three of them all living..is impossibile, I know.
I'm afraid some of the Weasley family members will die as well. Maybe one of the twins and maybe even Molly, or Arthur

I don't want to think about that now

Too sad!

Learn From This Mistake

Feb 23 2006, 01:29 AM

Thanks for the poem page! I will ogle it and giggle annoyingly, to be sure.

(My official favourite smileys are the roll-eyes, and the santa, even though most of the time they're sorta random. Heck, whatever...)
As for your theory on who's going to die, Just The Droobles ...Do you really think that Ron is going to die?? (I kind of figured that's who you were talking about, since Harry is closer to Ron than he is to Hermione, and you said it was one who he cared about most, and it's not 'Mione, or Ginny...

That is really El Poo! (Please correct me if I'm wrong...about your theory, of course.)
freezing, I really liked what you said about Ginny, about how you thought that she was going to react a little differently when Harry broke up with her, and how you would have, yourself. Ginny has such a head-strong, confident, and clever character, I didn't think that she would be exactly thrilled about being so-called 'cast to the side.' I guess she is showing amazing compassion and understanding for Harry, by not complaining or whatever (to ease his feelings) and understanding why he was going through the whole Tobey MacGuire thing. Bah, humbug! Ginny's too clever and too strong a character to sit at the side!
My theory is that she will confront Harry at the wedding in the summer, and then she will either come with them, or do something major in the end. J.K. Rowling really likes books with prominent female protaganists and characters (The Little White Horse by Elizabeth Goudge, most Jane Austen, Diana Wynne-Jones, etc... You see where I'm coming from? --If you don't all of those books have very strong female characters, and in most cases, women are protaganists.)
Even though she wrote a book with a guy as the main character, and Hermione DOES tend to, generally, exist, I think that she will want to put in a more...loud...for lack of a better word...
girl-y character.
I think that she WILL be fighting at Harry's side! What do you guys think?
xoxo

Oh, wait, I almost forgot....

freezing

Feb 23 2006, 02:58 PM

QUOTE (Learn From This Mistake @ Feb 23 2006, 01:29 AM)

I didn't think that she would be exactly thrilled about being so-called 'cast to the side.'

No, ok..I think I've used the wrong words. (that's because I'm on a fight with my english, or something)
I meant that even if Harry tries to keep her away from all the battle they are going to fight, against Voldemort, Ginny will be by his side, just as the strong, determined young woman that she is.
I mean TO HIS (Harry's) SIDE, not by a side, alone, apart from all that stuff

I'm sorry I must have wrote some kind of a mess in my previous post, uh?

Sorry again!

QUOTE

going through the whole Tobey MacGuire thing

Oh my God!!!

QUOTE

I think that she WILL be fighting at Harry's side! What do you guys think?

Exactly what I think too.

*michelle*

Feb 23 2006, 03:39 PM

QUOTE

I think that she WILL be fighting at Harry's side! What do you guys think?

I also think that Ginny will stand by Harry's side during the final battle but I don't see her coming for the search of the horcruxes.

First, she's not of age so she is not allowed to do magic outside Hogwarts. I know that during difficult times, some rules don't matter any more but, as she is one year younger than the Trio, she doesn't know all the spells Harry, Hermione and Ron have leaned, for example the non-verbal spells... I don't say she's not a gifted witch but her training is less complete than the Trio's.

And second, she can't apparate yet. As it has been quite developed in HBP, I tend to think that this new capacity will be used by the Trio sometimes so it will a handicap for her.

Lastly, I don't think Harry will tell her at the beginning of the book about the horcruxes because he will still want to protect her. As he thinks being away from him will protect her, he will try (with great difficulty, let's hope

) to reject her. However, at some point, I hope he will finally understand that he needs her and that he can't go on without her (maybe at about the 2/3 of the book?) and then he will tell her about what he has be doing while he was away with Hermione and Ron (the horcruxes...) and that he will apologize for breaking up with her. They will make up and after, there will be the final battle and we'll see Ginny fighting with the Trio.

Here is approximatively how I'd like the seventh book to be about Harry and Ginny.

muggleview

Feb 24 2006, 03:40 AM

Seemingly Jo Rowling has been portraying Harry and Ginny as a conventional British couple. Both have their own little worlds. Harry hangs out with Ron and Hermione during "work" (fighting Voldemort), whereas Ginny, supporting Harry in spirit, stays with her friends and more at home. Already a domestic partner relationship. They have been enjoying this type of arrangement basically since they got to know each other. Ginny knew Harry has his own problem and she was willingly not interfere if Harry doesn't want her to. In POA, during the train ride to Hogwarts she went out right away once Harry wanted to speak to Ron and Hermione in private. She could have protested and stayed, but she gave Harry the space he needed. Another time at 12 Grimmauld Place, Ginny suspected Harry had something to share with Ron and Hermione, but she didn't push. Only when Luna and Neville were involved, prior to the trip to the Ministry of Magic, she was adamant not to be left behind. So far, Harry had been enjoying this arrangement. He felt that he always will have Ginny around, when he needed to be with her. That's why the sight of Dean kissing Ginny was a violation of Harry's confidence, so much that he wished the worst for Dean, his dorm-mate since year 1. Therefore, whatever happens during the war, Harry will be back to Ginny, because that's where Harry's life is in balance, as he always subconsciously enjoys whenever he was at the Burrow.

Another short remarks on the lack of words shared between Harry and Ginny to be put in writing. During the big debate period, I have been promoting the idea that Harry Potter series is actually an autobiography by Harry himself, written long after all of the things in 7 books took place. With Ginny looking behind his shoulder, Harry has only good words about her. Not so with any other girls in the series, including Cho Chang. Although Harry is honest about Cho's good look, he never wrote beyond that. Other girls are not as fortunate, not even Hermione, although Harry didn't really write horrible words on her. On the contrary, Ginny has always been portrayed in the best light, even during her misadventures. Of course, whatever transpired between the two of them, beyond the ears and eyes of Ron and Hermione, belong only in the inner circle of Potter family members, in which we, the readers, are not.
Conveniently, Harry never divulged what he and Ginny discussed during the time they spent together. Enough to say that Harry found Ginny the most understanding person to his feeling and that Ginny is Harry's best source of comfort. Those moments are apparently censored, could be in consideration to Ginny's feeling (remembering how awkward Molly Weasley has to say private words with Arthur in the presence of Harry).
So, we should respect their privacy. Harry didn't mind to share what he said to Ron, to Hermione, to Cho or to Luna or anyone else. But the exchange with Ginny is kept between the two of them. We can only see what Ron and Hermione had witnessed. Beyond that, sorry, no webcam in their bedroom.

My two-pennies,
Muggy

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