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ashleigh07
Here you go then guys - a brand new shiny thread for:-

HARRY/HERMIONE SHIPPERS ONLY.

(I don't think I could have made that any clearer wink.gif)

I DO NOT want to see any rude, inflammatory or disrespectful posts here from supporters of other ships.

* The VENOM thread for this ship (that is for those who DO NOT support the H/H ship) can be found here.

Please make sure that you read the forums rules as well as the additional ones which apply to the Ships threads here.

The old thread has been archived and may be found here.

Now that I've gotten all THAT outta the way, let's get back to discussing our favorite ship!! biggrin.gif As I said at the end of the previous thread, let's not let what's canon be a damper to our imaginations!! And plus, there's always the future to look to...which is when I've always envisioned the H/H ship to blossom wink.gif
Herminia
Oooh, nice shiny thread! smile.gif Thanks ashleigh07!

To restart our discussion where it left off --
1) Emma is J.K. Rowling's favorite book and the main characters in Emma mirror Harry (Emma) and Hermione (Mr. Kingsley) and their relationship. If Rowling adheres to Austen's themes of love and romance as presented in Emma, we can rightly expect a Year Seven H/Hr revelation.
2) Does Crookshanks' love of Harry (but hatred of Ron) and Hedwig's affinity for Hermione (with no interactions with Ginny) symbolize the interactions and emotions of their owners?
and 3) Harry has never properly reflected on his feelings for Hermione. That is to say, he's always cut-off by someone or something before he can say if there might be more to his friendship with her. What will it take for Harry to realize that he might be in love with Hermione? Most of us said that the two would need to be separated - something that has never happened during the true "action" sequence of the books.

And if none of that made any sense, I'll come back here and rewrite it. I'm dead on my feet this morning, having stayed up all night writing an English paper! sad.gif
Dumbledore's Widow
QUOTE (Herminia @ Feb 8 2006, 07:03 AM)
Oooh, nice shiny thread! smile.gif Thanks ashleigh07!

To restart our discussion where it left off --
1) Emma is J.K. Rowling's favorite book and the main characters in Emma mirror Harry (Emma) and Hermione (Mr. Kingsley) and their relationship. If Rowling adheres to Austen's themes of love and romance as presented in Emma, we can rightly expect a Year Seven H/Hr revelation.
2) Does Crookshanks' love of Harry (but hatred of Ron) and Hedwig's affinity for Hermione (with no interactions with Ginny) symbolize the interactions and emotions of their owners?
and 3) Harry has never properly reflected on his feelings for Hermione. That is to say, he's always cut-off by someone or something before he can say if there might be more to his friendship with her. What will it take for Harry to realize that he might be in love with Hermione? Most of us said that the two would need to be separated - something that has never happened during the true "action" sequence of the books.

And if none of that made any sense, I'll come back here and rewrite it. I'm dead on my feet this morning, having stayed up all night writing an English paper! sad.gif

Re: #2: I never really looked at it this way. That Crookshanks and Hedwig being symbolizing the interactions and emotions of their owners. Interesting. Funny too, how Crookshanks seems to like Harry but not Ron. i wonder why that is?

Re: #3: I don't think that Harry and Hermione need to be separated in order for Harry to realize his feelings for her. What I do think is that she will have to be in grave danger. In OotP Harry was quite distraught over the possiblity of Hermione being dead (until Neville found a pulse). Many non-believers say that it was just because of guilt. That Harry thought he had placed her (and the others) at great risk by having them accompany him to the DOM. I, like many other Harmonians, think that this was a moment of truth. That he felt more than just guilt. He was almost hysterical and beside himself just thinking that he had lost Hermione. This to me, is more than guilt. However, we find Harry promptly forgetting the entire incident (as well as Sirius' death) in HBP. Why? I suppose it's because that's the way JKR wrote it. Or, it could be that she is throwing out a lot of red herring at us! wink.gif But, I do think that Harry will have a revealation as to how he feels about Hermione when she is taken from him and held as 'bait' to lure Harry. This is just my thought. The hero going out to get his heroine back always makes for a great movie plot. Let's hope JKR thinks it'll make a good plot for her final book! wub.gif
Nymphe
I still need to reread tha archived thread but I wanted to comment and say hello. No matter what anyone tells you, H/Hr has the best symbolism referring to their relationship than any other book I have ever read. That and that alone should make you all proud if you were able to see it.

1) Emma is not the only book where she flips the gender roles for her own. Rowling also stated that her favorite book and the biggest inspiration for the HP series is The Little White Horse. I will check that one out soon after I finish my slow reread of PoA.

2) Someone did a short essay about that on Portkey and it cannot be ignored. Also, note the two flashy birds Sirius sent messages by Harry that Hedwig did not like. Who could those birds (British slang for girl or woman) be foreshadowing? Hmmm?

3) If the first book gives clues to the last one and reflects like a mirror, the boys could separate themselves from Hermione on purpose leading to her having to rescue them. It could be after that adventure that Harry gets a clue. Here is to hoping Rowling dumbed Harry down for a good reason in HBP...LOL!
HermionePotter06
Okay, it scared me a little when I saw version 4, but it's all better now. I don't even remember what I said before this was archived. Oh well!! smile.gif
~!HermionePotter06!~
Nymphe
May I make a request? If people are going to post other people's essays on here, you should give the link to it and maybe the author's name. That way the author gets credit for it and we can see it from the original site. It is hard for me to read long essays in the forums (poor eyesight).

A word of caution for those into The Draco Trilogy--she will break H/Hr up in her last chapter and is not a H/Hr shipper...she prefers slash. Personally, after reading her blog and some stuff she posted at other sites, I think she is full of it.

The real reason it is called Pumpkin Pie.
Herminia
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  May I make a request? If people are going to post other people's essays on here, you should give the link to it and maybe the author's name. That way the author gets credit for it and we can see it from the original site. It is hard for me to read long essays in the forums (poor eyesight).


No problem, Nymphe. By the way, I've seen several of your great posts on Portkey! You're really a heartening force when so many of the H/Hr shippers there seem so resigned to the notion that H/Hr is a strictly fanon ship. I think it still has potential for Book Seven, especially when one considers 1) the overall horrible-ness of OBHWF as portrayed in HBP, 2) the fact that Harry and Hermione really flirted for the first time in that book, 3) the fact that Harry was - for some vague reason - uncomfortable about his best friends' interest in each other, and 4) the fact that Rowling greatly admires Austen's work in Emma...a book that screams HARRY/HERMIONE (to us, anyway wink.gif)



Um, to everyone who's read my fan fiction, I have a really pathetic request. Could you sign my member map? I'm really curious to see where everyone who reads my fan fic comes from and it just takes a minute. If you'd like me to put up the information for you, just tell me approx. where you live (like Southeastern United States or Malaysia or wherever). If you don't want to, that's cool, but I thought I'd ask smile.gif
http://my.execpc.com/12/E2/mitt124/mitt124...ember%20Map.htm

ETA: Thanks Nymphe, Lupin123, and Vicky for signing in smile.gif I've only had the thing about an hour and I've already had about eight other people sign in, which is cool but it makes me wonder how many people come through my website everyday!
Lupin123
Hai,
Very glad to meet you all in a fresh thread.I have nothing to tell except H/Hr for ever. See you soon.
Hai Herminia,
Your guest map idea is very interesting. I have seen the thread created by you in HMS Harmony. Do you want to figure out H/Hr shippers as nation wide? Very interesting but I could not sign in it. Already my name has been included. Can't understand. Any how I like your idea very much. I have not read your fiction yet. Hope to read it today.
Herminia
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Hai Herminia,
Your guest map idea is very interesting. I have seen the thread created by you in HMS Harmony. Do you want to figure out H/Hr shippers as nation wide? Very interesting but I could not sign in it. Already my name has been included. Can't understand. Any how I like your idea very much. I have not read your fiction yet. Hope to read it today.


unsure.gif Where has your name already been added? The GuestMap or HMS Harmony?

The thread in HMS Harmony is to find out about where people live who ship H/Hr. A few other shippers and I thought that most R/Hr-H/G shippers came from countries like America, Britain, and Australia (who speak English as their native language) and more H/Hr shippers came from countries where English was not the first language they learned. So far, we don't have enough people participating to say whether this is true or not smile.gif
Lupin123
Hai Herminia,
I think that I confused you a little. I tried to sign in your guest map but I could not. I don't know why. But you told in your earlier post that myself,Nymphe and vicky have signed in. So I confused, anyway, count me as a H/Hr shipper from India .

By the way, I completed Chapter 19 part one and eagerly waiting for part two. When are you going to post the one-shot stories? Please update soon. The H/Hr pictures in your website are so good and your new avatar is excellent. Cute H/Hr moments.

Now I am reading Pride and Prejudice and if I find anything special relating to HP I will share it with you.
In Portkey, people are wondering about the character resemblence of Harry and emma,Hermione and Mr.Knightley,Ginny and Frank Churchill and Ron and Harriet. I think we can include that Luna and Mr.Martin.
Nymphe
smile.gif Thank you, Herminia. Regardless of what people may think, Rowling wrote an intense connection through foreshadowing, symbolism, and character interaction between Harry and Hermione--including opening that door in the DoM. All that interview did was to discourage and distract the fandom. Right now, people are confused about Pensieve moments because of her interviews. Also, keep in mind that even though she said the Sorting Hat was not a Horcrux, that does not mean it was not tampered with.

I am nearly done with a reread of PoA, and, wow, I give Rowling mass credit for using "anvils" to knock us away from the real deal. Is anyone up for a six-book analysis of the various relationships? That way, you can see all of the wonderful symbolism and hints she wove into her tale.
Herminia
Oooh! I understand. I do not know why you could not sign, but when I saw someone sign in for India right after I posted the message here, I assumed it was you! smile.gif

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By the way, I completed Chapter 19 part one and eagerly waiting for part two. When are you going to post the one-shot stories? Please update soon. The H/Hr pictures in your website are so good and your new avatar is excellent. Cute H/Hr moments.


Thanks. I made the avatar while I was bored yesterday. The one-shots should be up as soon as they are done. smile.gif


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  Thank you, Herminia. Regardless of what people may think, Rowling wrote an intense connection through foreshadowing, symbolism, and character interaction between Harry and Hermione--including opening that door in the DoM. All that interview did was to discourage and distract the fandom. Right now, people are confused about Pensieve moments because of her interviews. Also, keep in mind that even though she said the Sorting Hat was not a Horcrux, that does not mean it was not tampered with.


I still cannot believe that she would be so upfront talking about the ships if those were truly the ships to end all ships. The Interview almost makes me think that she wants to throw us off-course and that the real shocker IS a romantic switch-up in the next book.
*potter*
im intending that harry and hermione get together their relationship is so sweet hermione cares so much for harry she hugs him and loves him im sure and hopefully they'll get together some day wub.gif
Nymphe
QUOTE (Herminia @ Feb 9 2006, 11:01 AM)
I still cannot believe that she would be so upfront talking about the ships if those were truly the ships to end all ships. The Interview almost makes me think that she wants to throw us off-course and that the real shocker IS a romantic switch-up in the next book.

Oh, she is going to throw everyone for a loop in the last book, and ticked off those with high expectations for the obvious. I plan to spend a day or two alone with HPO (I call the last book HPO because the title will have an object in it, following the patterns of PS/SS and GoF--first, middle, last) and my computer so I can watch the fandom go

BOOM!

I would not be surprised if we hear about destroyed or returned books. I so hope Rowling writes a series for adults to make it even more challenging.
Herminia
If we're right in the end, I think we'd have ample grounds for some major gloating after what happened to us in the aftermath of HBP! Oh, I dearly hope we're proved right in the end, and every time I go online and look at theories or re-read HBP, I do see more clues that R/Hr and H/G just aren't MEANT to last.
Lupin123
I was upset just for one or two days after completing HBP. But when I reread the book 6 I started to believe that it is definately H/Hr going to end up in the last book. But remember we are very few in numbers when compare to the other readers, so major gloating is not possible, I think. Moreover, after experienced how it would be if our ship is not sailed, it is not fair on our part to gloat like that. Oh! How confident I am! Anyway, I am expecting that moment very eagarly.
Dumbledore's Widow
QUOTE (Lupin123 @ Feb 11 2006, 04:22 AM)
I was upset just for one or two days after completing HBP. But when I reread the book 6 I started to believe that it is definately H/Hr going to end up in the last book. But remember we are very few in numbers when compare to the other readers, so major gloating is not possible, I think. Moreover, after experienced how it would be if our ship is not sailed, it is not fair on our part to gloat like that. Oh! How confident I am! Anyway, I am expecting that moment very eagarly.

I've only read HBP once. I loaned my book out and should be getting it back soon. I will try to struggle through and re-read it when I get it back to find the H/Hr moments.

Tell me Lupin123 why you think after having re-read HBP that H/Hr will happen? I've got goose pimple just thinking that it will turn out to be H/Hr. Of course, I'm a die-hard H/Hr shipper, so I naturally feel that it will be H/Hr! But, please tell me why you think this is so.
Thanks,

Mary, a.k.a. Dumbledore's Widow
smile.gif
*dementor*
I used to think that it was going to be R/Hr all along and i used to write comments on this thread saying it will never happen! tongue.gif lol
But i had you H/Hr shippers persuade me that it is not only possible but probable.
the thing is, after reading HBP 4 times thoroughly, i decided that hermione was cleverer than we thought and that she may be hiding the greatest secret yet of the trio.... rolleyes.gif
Lupin123
Hai Dumbledore's Widow,
I missed some moments in my first read and caught up with them in the 2nd run. Earlier,I have been posting in the name of well wisher of harry in this H/Hr thread.(I forgot the login password and started to post in this name). I have posted my views about HBP in that earlier thread in detail.
First point, in HBP we have no clear confession of love from Ron and Hermione. The biggest anvil (birds attacking) seemed to me that her outburst of anger towards Harry, because she was upset with Harry at that time.He fooled her by making her to believe that he had given lovepotions to Ron.
Secondly, Harry's confused feelings towards R/Hr. He thought that it would be painful to be in their presense if they end up like Bill and Fleur. When Ron was under the control of lovepotion given by Romilda vane he told that he could not stop thinking about her. Harry was almost shocked. He didn't sure whether he liked to hear it or not.
Hermione invited Ron to the Slughorn's party. I think she invited Ron because she knew very well that Harry was avoiding the parties purposely. He didn't want to leave Ron leftout. So if Ron come to the party then Harry will also joined him. So no particular reason for inviting Ron.
The whole H/G thing is something odd. I felt that it was Harry's way of overcoming the fear of leftout. He wanted to hold something whenever he felt something was going on between R/Hr. We can see the odd connection between the R/Hr moments and H/G moments. That is every R/Hr moment is followed by a H/G moment.
The brake up of H/G is also something different and shallow. Harry told her that she would be in danger and Voldemart would bait her to get Harry as he had done in her second year. It was Lucius Malfoy who put the diary in Ginny's couldren to demerit the name of Arthur Weasley in the Ministry. Voldemart was in Albania forest at that time and he didn't know anything about these things. Harry was very much aware of these facts and he discussed about these things with Dumbledore in the Horcruxes chapter. Inspite of this, he lied her. I think he didn't want to hurt her feelings so he gave one lame reason and ended up that relationship once for all. So i think it will lead to H/Hr in the next book. In portkey,there is one theory explains that Ron don't have any romantic feelings towards Hermione. I started to believe that theory(happily) and it makes the way very clear to our ship.
To add up the things, there are open H/Hr moments like 'how fanciable you are', Harry's hearing of Hermione's voice when he and Ron were in the Burrow, Hermione's helping hand in confunding Cormac, Harry's slight anger towards Hermione when she invited Cormac to the party, his secret desire to hex Cormac, his questions to Hermione about the secret love (two times he enquired her about Madam Pince and Tonks)and his uncomfortable feeling when Lavender asked him about R/Hr.
His chest monster (the important anvil) seemed to be quiet when he was with Hermione. And I have one doubt (if H/G shippers read it they will kill me) that Harry felt disoriented not because of that kiss between Ginny and Dean but because of the news he heard from Ginny that Hermione snogged Krum.
I think I have included all the points I remembered. If anything missed I will post it later.I don't know I am making any sense but my instinct telling me that it is H/Hr forever.
Louise
Hey guys smile.gif Been a long time since I posted in here and not been telling someone off tongue.gif

You know, it's funny...at the end of HBP, I kind of felt the same way - that R/Hr was kind of vague and that if JKR hadn't virtually flat out said that H/Hr wasn't happening, I could have made what I would consider pretty strong arguments for why H/Hr was undoubtedly the strongest, deepest and most satisfying interplay between two characters in the whole book - far stronger than pithy lust between Harry and Ginny. At least R/Hr had some kind of basis there to build from, but...urgh...I'm not getting into that. Off topic. Anyway, the point is that I still think that if anyone's going to get together with Harry, I would far rather it be Hermione than anyone else. It would be pretty left field of JKR if she suddenly did do a U-turn and intimate towards a H/Hr ship in the end, wouldn't it? *sighs hopefully*
Nymphe
QUOTE (Michelle Dessler @ Feb 11 2006, 10:56 AM)
You know, it's funny...at the end of HBP, I kind of felt the same way - that R/Hr was kind of vague and that if JKR hadn't virtually flat out said that H/Hr wasn't happening, I could have made what I would consider pretty strong arguments for why H/Hr was undoubtedly the strongest, deepest and most satisfying interplay between two characters in the whole book - far stronger than pithy lust between Harry and Ginny.  At least R/Hr had some kind of basis there to build from, but...urgh...I'm not getting into that.  Off topic.  Anyway, the point is that I still think that if anyone's going to get together with Harry, I would far rather it be Hermione than anyone else.  It would be pretty left field of JKR if she suddenly did do a U-turn and intimate towards a H/Hr ship in the end, wouldn't it?  *sighs hopefully*

After all of the twists she has done in these book and the second half of the last tale to do, anything is possible. I believe it will be an eleventh hour deal, as Harry tries to open the "love door" in the DoM once again. Jane Austen, Rowling's favorite author, is known for doing twists like that.

Here is my assumption: Rowling is writing this series to reawaken the the traditional English liturature started by Tolkien, Lewis, and their friends. She is also trying to encourage older children to read the classics and recognize the inherit symbolism or word play in them. Perhaps, maybe inspire research into ancient beliefs and items.

1. There is a reason we know what Hermione's wand is made of, and not Ginny's or Luna's.

2. There is a reason H/Hr can use each other's wands without trouble even though Rowling stated it is difficult to use another person's wand.

3.There is a reason Hedwig went to Hermione so the girl could deliver Harry's birthday present (broom maintenance kit).

4.There is a reason we see Hermione uses the locking spell many times throughout these books.

5. There is a reason why Hermione birthday is past the ides of September.

6. There is a reason why we see Hermione ask and do odd things with Harry (toast, walk around the lake, asking to knit, putting a waterproof shielding on his glasses).

7. There is a reason why Rowling grouped off Harry, Hermione, and Neville during the DoM ordeal.

8. There is a reason why Hermione is working her tail off to gain magical knowledge, while Harry is not.

I could list some more, but what it boils down to is today's society has an obsession with the easy choice, the obvious, and the confusion over the shades of grey inherent within human nature. This is why Rowling can keep H/Hr and R/Hr as ambigous as possible. In none of her interviews has she come clean as saying "no H/Hr, yes R/Hr" in a straightforward manor as she did with D/Hr and N/L. If H/Hr does come to pass, I see much wailing and gnashing of teeth, believing Rowling lied to them, but to that I say she warned us to only take what is in her books and on her website as canon.

It would only take a few words and one kiss to get H/Hr out of the way, a page or two at best.
Herminia
I read a very thoughtful essay on HarmonyForever today.

The link to the full work is here, for interested parties:

http://www.harmonyforever.com/index.php?ca...&p2_articleid=9

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My View Of Rowling's Take On Hormones, & Harry's Love Life
By thereader
Published: January 15, 2006


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Allow me to be brutally honest about this: if Joanne Rowling is determined to ensure that Harry’s emotional involvement with best pal Hermione is to remain at a purely platonic level, then is it compulsory for her to necessitate that either character ends up with the likes of Ronald and Ginevra Weasley? Apart from Ronald Weasley, are there no decent options left for Hermione to choose from – like, say, Viktor Krum, Neville Longbottom or perhaps even Terry Boot? Likewise, apart from Ginevra Weasley, are there no other alternatives left for poor Harry to opt for – i.e., like, say, Susan Bones or any other suitable female character having made a few token appearances in the first four books?

The One Big Sappy Weasley Family scenario, as I like to call it (and will continue doing so for the rest of this rant) is exactly what it has always sounded like, to me – a cheerful, safe, easy, saccharine yet annoying convenience. This, in my opinion, is not radically different from Blyton’s Famous Five series, yet also runs the risk of being all too easy, not to mention, irksome, to boot – which the chaste Famous Five series is not. I would, however, like to believe that Rowling is capable of a lot more than this sugary slice of convenient nonsensicality.

If she were to put Harry together with the ‘Weaslet’, that is, Ginevra, then I would feel thoroughly cheated and disgusted as it would show me that Rowling has, after five Harry Potter volumes, not much of a story left to tell yet has loads of space left to devote to Harry chasing Ginevra around the Quidditch Pitch in HBP so that the pair can conveniently get together by the end of his seventh year at Hogwarts. There is simply no other way left for them to get closer thanks to Harry’s largely having ignored her for such a long time – unless Rowling contrives it. This would not be very fascinating, in my view, given that Harry does seem to have far more important issues left to deal with over the next two years of his life. If the new and greatly improved Ginevra Weasley Post-OP were to suddenly accept Harry’s romantic gestures, at any stage, during the next two books, then I would have no option but to look at it as being a complete roll back on her ‘new and improved’ character – would any self-respecting girl yearn to go out with someone who has completely ignored her feelings, for years, in spite of being fully aware of them? I must also categorically state that I dislike this particular couple immensely, given Harry’s earliest exchanges with Ginevra Pre-OP. How one can find the following even remotely palatable, is beyond me:


QUOTE (PS/SS @ Chapter 6, The Journey from Platform Nine and Three Quarters, pg. 73, UK Paperback Edition | pg. 97, US Hardback Edition)
‘You know that black-haired boy who was near us in the station? Know who he is?’
‘Who?’
‘Harry Potter!’
Harry heard the little girl’s voice.
‘Oh, Mum, can I go on the train and see him, Mum, oh please …’




QUOTE (PS/SS @ Chapter 17, The Man with Two Faces, pg. 223, UK Paperback Edition | pg. 308, US Hardback Edition)
He, Ron and Hermione passed through the gateway together.
‘There he is, Mum, there he is, look!’
It was Ginny Weasley, Ron’s younger sister, but she wasn’t pointing at Ron.
‘Harry Potter!’ she squealed. ‘Look, Mum! I can see –’
’Be quiet, Ginny, and it’s rude to point.’




QUOTE (COS @ Chapter 3, The Burrow, pg. 35, UK Paperback Edition | pg. 40, US Hardback Edition)
On the third landing, a door stood ajar. Harry just caught sight of a pair of bright brown eyes staring at him before it closed with a snap.
‘Ginny,’ said Ron. ‘You don’t know how weird it is for her to be this shy. She never shuts up normally –’




QUOTE (COS @ Chapter 4, At Flourish and Blotts, pg. 37, UK Paperback Edition | pg. 43, US Hardback Edition)
Harry heard from Hogwarts one sunny morning about a week after he had arrived at The Burrow. He and Ron went down to breakfast to find Mr and Mrs Weasley and Ginny already sitting at the kitchen table. The moment she saw Harry, Ginny accidentally knocked her porridge bowl to the floor with a loud clatter. Ginny seemed very prone to knocking things over whenever Harry entered a room. She dived under the table to retrieve the bowl and emerged with her face glowing like the setting sun. Pretending he hadn’t noticed this, Harry sat down and took the toast Mrs Weasley offered him.




QUOTE (COS @ Chapter 4, At Flourish and Blotts, pg. 38, UK Paperback Edition | pg. 44, US Hardback Edition)
‘Oh, are you starting at Hogwarts this year?’ Harry asked Ginny.
She nodded, blushing to the roots of her flaming hair, and put her elbow in the butter dish. Fortunately no one saw this except Harry, because just then Ron’s elder brother Percy walked in.




QUOTE (POA @ Chapter 4, The Leaky Cauldron, pg. 50-51, UK Paperback Edition | pg. 61-62, US Hardback Edition)
At that moment Mrs Weasley entered the bar, laden with shopping and followed by the twins, Fred and George, who were about to start their fifth year at Hogwarts; the newly elected Head Boy, Percy; and the Weasleys’ youngest child and only girl, Ginny.
Ginny, who had always been very taken with Harry, seemed even more heartily embarrassed than usual when she saw him, perhaps because he had saved her life during their last term at Hogwarts. She went very red and muttered ‘hello’ without looking at him.




QUOTE (POA @ Chapter 10, The Marauder’s Map, pg. 137, UK Paperback Edition | pg. 183, US Hardback Edition)
He had a stream of visitors, all intent on cheering him up. Hagrid sent him a bunch of earwiggy flowers that looked like yellow cabbages, and Ginny Weasley, blushing furiously, turned up with a ‘get-well’ card she had made herself, which sang shrilly unless Harry kept it shut under his bowl of fruit.




QUOTE (GOF @ Chapter 5, Weasleys’ Wizard Wheezes, pg. 51, UK Paperback Edition | pg. 54, US Hardcover Edition)
Then two girls appeared in the kitchen doorway behind Mrs Weasley. One, with very bushy brown hair and rather large front teeth, was Harry and Ron’s friend, Hermione Granger. The other, who was small and red-haired, was Ron’s younger sister, Ginny. Both of them smiled at Harry, who grinned back, which made Ginny go scarlet – she had been very taken with Harry ever since his first visit to The Burrow.




QUOTE (GOF @ Chapter 20, The First Task, pg. 295, UK Paperback Edition | pg. 337, US Hardcover Edition)
When he’d finally got all his clothes on the right parts of his body, he hurried off to find Hermione, locating her at the Gryffindor table in the Great Hall, where she was eating breakfast with Ginny. Feeling too queasy to eat, Harry waited until Hermione had swallowed her last spoonful of porridge, then dragged her out into the grounds for another walk. There, he told her all about the dragons, and about everything Sirius had said, while they took another long walk around the lake.




QUOTE (GOF @ Chapter 22, The Unexpected Task, pg. 347-349 UK Paperback Editon | pg. 399-401, US Hardcover Edition)
‘She’s part Veela,’ said Harry. ‘You were right – her grandmother was one. It wasn’t your fault, I bet you just walked past when she was turning on the old charm for Diggory and got a blast of it – but she was wasting her time. He’s going with Cho Chang.’
Ron looked up.
‘I asked her to go with me just now,’ Harry said dully, ‘and she told me.’
Ginny had suddenly stopped smiling.
‘This is mad,’ said Ron...

...‘Right,’ said Ron, who looked extremely put out, ‘this is getting stupid. Ginny, you can go with Harry, and I’ll just –’
‘I can’t,’ said Ginny, and she went scarlet too. ‘I’m going with – with Neville. He asked me when Hermione said no, and I thought … well … I’m not going to be able to go otherwise, I’m not in fourth year.’ She looked extremely miserable. ‘I think I’ll go and have dinner,’ she said, and she got up and walked off to the portrait hole, her head bowed.
Ron goggled at Harry.
‘What’s got into them?’ he demanded.
But Harry had just seen Parvati and Lavender come in through the portrait hole. The time had come for drastic action.



The various exchanges, listed above, range from Ginevra blatantly exhibiting the effects of, what can best called, a ‘pathetic fan-girl crush’ on Harry, in his first year, through her completely being ignored, by him, in his fourth. Even her reaction to Harry’s crush on Cho is so severely downplayed (for the purposes of creating one of Rowling’s predictable surprises) that many will not give a damn about the character’s feelings. Harry’s being completely unmindful of Ginevra’s plight (even though he clearly knows that she has a crush on him) does not help in any way, either, because it clearly shows that he does not give two hoots about her feelings, either consciously or sub-consciously. Based on interactions like these (which I must point out has gone on for four out of a possible maximum of seven books), I have no incentive, whatsoever, to root for a Harry and Ginevra relationship. Of course, there are those who will point out that I am being appallingly unfair to Ginevra by concentrating on her character and her exchanges with Harry before the ‘big’ change and I will honestly admit that this charge is true, so far, but let me make it clear that Ginevra’s ‘big’ change and her subsequent interactions with Harry do not impress me one little bit:


QUOTE (OOTP @ Chapter 23, Christmas on the Closed Ward, pg. 441-442, UK Edition | pg. 499-500, US Edition)
‘We wanted to talk to you, Harry’ said Ginny, ‘but as you’ve been hiding ever since we got back –’
‘I didn’t want anyone to talk to me,’ said Harry, who was feeling more and more nettled.
‘Well, that was a bit stupid of you,’ said Ginny angrily, ‘seeing as you don’t know anyone but me who’s been possessed by You-Know-Who, and I can tell you how it feels.’
Harry remained quite still as the impact of these words hit him. Then he wheeled round.
‘I forgot,’ he said.
‘Lucky you,’ said Ginny coolly.
‘I’m sorry,’ Harry said, and he meant it.




QUOTE (OOTP @ Chapter 32, Out of the Fire, pg. 648, UK Edition | pg. 735, US Edition)
‘Hi,’ said Ginny uncertainly. ‘We recognised Harry’s voice. What are you yelling about?’
‘Never you mind,’ said Harry roughly.
Ginny raised her eyebrows.
‘There’s no need to take that tone with me,’ she said coolly, ‘I was only wondering whether I could help.’
‘Well, you can’t,’ said Harry shortly.



Ginevra’s calling him stupid in exchanges that took place during the Hogwarts Christmas Break at 12 Grimmauld Place (when he was at his lowest point, during his fifth year at Hogwarts), and Harry’s completely having forgotten that she had been possessed by Tom Riddle and taken down to the Chamber of Secrets as a hostage, during her first year at Hogwarts, do nothing to push me into rooting for these two to get together and the infamous ‘Easter Egg Scene’ – which had Ginevra giving Harry what he wanted without her even bothering to figure out whether it was good for him or not – only serves to prove to me that these two reckless characters will not enjoy a very long life with each other, should they happen to get together, sometime in the future.

Furthermore, Ginevra has still not thanked Harry for saving her life, down at the Chamber of Secrets. I can understand her being too shy to do so, personally, in Harry’s third year, but she could have sent him a thank-you note, instead, or else she could have done so during his fourth, or even in his fifth year, when she started talking to him, but I got the distinct impression that she was too busy practicing Bat-Bogey Hexes, instead! If Rowling has Ginevra having this sudden epiphany about her needing to thank Harry for saving her life, four years after the deed has been done, then, I shall begin to wonder why Rowling has chosen to have Ginevra do so, at this juncture, when the ‘thank-you’, being discussed, would have had so much more of an impact on readers, earlier on in the series. Was it a simply act of amnesia on Ginevra’s part? Or, is it an act of conveniently contriving events on Rowling’s? Either way, let me make it clear that I shall not find any act of gratitude on Ginevra’ part, believable, this late in the series.

I’ll be blunt: I see Harry and Ginevra as barely being acquaintances, in OOTP. I can also see, some sort of a friendship blossom between the two of them, in books six and seven, but I simply cannot see them finding ‘true love’, given their exchanges in the past, without Rowling contriving it.

Of course, all the problems associated with a Harry and Ginevra romance must also be taken into consideration when one is evaluating the One Big Sappy Weasley Family set-up, given that the Harry and Ginevra relationship is the main component of that scenario, as the series is about Harry’s past, present and future.

I must also add that I find both these particular scenarios remarkably devoid of conflict, unless Rowling chooses to over-dramatise things – just like she had done with Harry’s Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, in OOTP. At most, Harry is going to have to get used to the dynamics of Ron and Hermione being a couple. This should not be too difficult for him, given its similarities to his gradually getting accustomed to Ron and Hermione spending time together as Prefects, without him, in their fifth year. Needless to say, this would be about as interesting as a snore, in my opinion. The only source of conflict in a Harry and Ginevra liaison would, most likely, come from an extremely apprehensive Weasley clan, should they choose to have a change of heart after finding out about the prophecy, and disapprove of the youngest of their brood getting attached to the boy condemned by Lord Voldemort. This is easily surmounted, given Harry’s ability to hide things and Ginevra’s long standing love for stealth. In fact, to do it in any other way would be a contrivance, given their long-standing flaws which simply cannot be erased, at the convenient wave of Rowling’s wand, and passed off for character development. If Harry survives, life with the Weasleys represents no forward movement for him, given that the family has taken him in since he was twelve years old. Even if Rowling were to have the guts to exterminate the rest of the Weasleys, like vermin, after getting Harry together with Ginevra, the fact remains that he would still end up with someone bearing the Weasley surname, which, in itself, would still offer no significant change for him – given his already close relationship with that family. Therefore, I cannot remotely accept either of the above-mentioned romantic possibilities.

If Harry were to end up with Luna, it would be a slight improvement (on the two set-ups mentioned earlier) in that it would show some movement in Harry’s life as he would have to get used to interacting with a different family, if he survives his seventh year at Hogwarts. Nothing, however, still prevents it from reeking of convenience. This is because, as much as I like her, Luna’s having been introduced five books into a seven book series would only serve to prove to me that she has been written into the series for the sole purpose of being finally presented as Harry's 'surprise' virginal squeeze, not very awe-inspiring, in my opinion, as this romance would only show me that Joanne Rowling is giving Harry a girl friend, simply for the sake of trying to differentiate her work from Enid Blyton’s. The romance, in itself, would be frivolous as it would have no bearing on the main plot – which I feel is, at least, partially about the power of love.

If Rowling were to plonk Harry into a frivolous teenage romance, it would indicate that she is neither ready to take a risk like Star Wars creator, George Lucas, was prepared to do with Luke (though it must be said that he badly compromised by turning Luke’s only possible love interest into his twin, thereby avoiding any possible source of conflict, whatsoever) nor willing to take a gamble by turning Harry into a womanizer. Lastly, this scenario would prove to me that Rowling is not at all prepared to let Harry and Hermione do anything that would hurt Ronald and the rest of the Weasleys.

If Harry and Luna (or any other girl having made a cameo appearance in the first four books, with the exception of Ginevra) are to be put together, then to make it remotely plausible for me to accept, Joanne Rowling is going to have to convincingly prove to me that the girl concerned is far more important to Harry, his life plus the overall plot and that he needs her a lot more than he's ever needed Hermione – in the past five books (put together). To accomplish this, Rowling is going to have to drastically reduce Hermione’s role in the rest of the series, given that the stories are about Harry Potter’s past, present and future. Otherwise, it will be about as believable, as Ginevra’s sudden character development was. Even though Rowling may have found that shoddy bit of so-called character development, utterly believable in her mind, I must state that I found Ginevra’s growth badly contrived and horribly executed to boot, even though I had realised, prior to Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix’s release, that she would start conversing with Harry in book five. Depending on Rowling’s limitations (and after having carefully looked at how she goes about doing certain things), I can see Harry’s getting paired up with Luna (or with any other girl who has made a few token appearances in the earlier books excluding Ginevra) as being a barely acceptable compromise, at best, and a total farce, at worst.

The brief, one dimensional Harry and Cho relationship, consisting of much bitterness and a solitary off-screen snog, only worked – and this is coming from an individual who had firmly believed that Harry would finally get his not so successful chance with Cho Chang in OOTP – because it didn't. As crudely portrayed as it was, the Harry and Cho relationship was one of the few positive aspects of OOTP, in my opinion, because it clearly illustrated that Rowling was willing to address a somewhat difficult topic that had a few barbed elements of conflict in it.

Before I start talking about the final candidate for Harry’s heart, I must brutally address something that a section of the Harry Potter fandom, reading this rant, will almost certainly be wondering about: Ronald Weasley’s future love interest and why I haven’t touched on it, yet. First of all, let me make it clear that this rant, as its title implies, is partially about the candidates for Harry’s heart. Secondly, Rowling has made it clear that:


QUOTE (Sunday 15 August 2004 | Edinburgh Book Festival)
Question: Who was the first character that you invented?

J.K. Rowling: Harry. He really is the whole story. The whole plot is contained in Harry Potter; his past, present and future—that is the story. Harry came to me first and everything radiated out from him. I gave him his parents, then his past, then Hogwarts, and the wizarding world got bigger and bigger. He was the starting point.



Unlike the Neville Longbottom lovers in our midst, there is a section of the fandom that firmly believes they are reading ‘The Weasley Chronicles’. I, however, tend to agree with what Rowling has said. Since the saga is about Harry’s past, present and future, it is Harry’s future love interest that is of prime concern to me. If Rowling, by some stroke of genius, manages to convincingly set Ron up with a pawn from McGonagall’s life sized chess set or with the Giant Squid; I would, personally, still not give a damn about it. I must admit, though, that such liaisons would serve to add some light-hearted moments to a series that is getting progressively darker – that is, exactly, what this section of the fandom claims that the clichéd Ron and Hermione romance would bring to the table. Needless to say, my scenarios do exactly that plus add the dimension of being distinctive as well. If Rowling were to go the route of making Ron gay – and some readers feel this is indeed possible given certain ambiguities in the text – then I would have no option left but to openly admit that she is not only brilliantly gutsy but is also extremely adept at incorporating remarkable twists and turns into her romantic plot line. I do not, however, see this particular scenario ever being played out, given Rowling’s one-sided take on hormones.

This brings me to the last candidate for Harry James Potter’s affections – Hermione Jane Granger. Many, in the fandom, have suggested that this pair is sibling like. I have, however, not met a weirder pair of siblings. Where is the sibling rivalry? Where is the sibling-like bickering? I must admit that I simply cannot see any sibling-like qualities in the interactions of the two characters. Both are, in fact, extremely proud of each other’s considerable achievements and this trait, in my view, is extremely un-sibling like. Hermione has been there for Harry since Day One, even when he did not appreciate her involvement in his affairs. She has also been a bastion of support for him – helping, defending and standing by him even when so-called friends had turned their backs. She put up with his irate temper throughout OOTP, taking his tantrums in her stride yet had the courage to openly disagree with him when she felt that it absolutely necessary to do so. After having spent five close years with Harry, Hermione has gradually learned to understand him and knows him better than anyone else does. She, herself, has gained tremendously from knowing Harry and has learned a lot from his out-of-the-box style of doing things. Even though Rowling has bluntly said that Harry ‘needs her badly’, I’d say that, based on my understanding of the Harry Potter novels, Hermione needs Harry badly too in that she needs someone who desperately requires what’s unique about her. Someone who is proud of her considerable accomplishments and is willing to honestly tell her that she is better than he is – and that, my dear friends, is exactly how Harry continues to see her. This particular romance will not exactly be the most conflict-free of relationships because of feelings involved on Ronald and (perhaps) Ginevra’s side. A lot of conflict with the Weasley Family could ensue, should Harry and Hermione decide to pursue a romantic relationship. Molly Weasley is also not going to be ecstatic, should Harry and Hermione hurt her babies, emotionally. Finding true love with Hermione Granger would take Harry Potter firmly away from the Weasleys, ensuring change in Harry’s life. I firmly believe that Harry and Hermione are most suitable for each other, due to the reasons cited above. Although Harry and Hermione share a platonic bond, as of now, there is no reason why this cannot develop a sexual component and blossom into true love – the foundation for this to take place, sometime in the future, is already being built upon as their beautiful friendship develops. They would also have to learn to look at each other in a different light, should they become more than friends, which, in itself, would be a drastic change, given their long standing platonic friendship. Needless to say, H/Hr, as it is known in the fandom, is the only prudent, long-term option I can see – given the way things stand, five books into a seven book series.


There's some interesting stuff buried deep in there, and I'd love to see OBHWF shippers react to that, but in lieu of inter-ship debates, we'll just have to talk it over amongst ourselves!
Lupin123
Very good essay, Herminia, Thanks for the link. And speaking about the 'platonic bond' the word platonic pertaining to Plato, a Greek philosopher, or his philosophy of love between soul and soul.
I think every reader of HP series accept that H/Hr are soul mates. Physical relationship is not a compulsory thing in romance. And the line between romantic and platonic is very thin and it can be crossed at any time without much difficult. Connection between the souls, that is more important. If it is not there, the physical relationship has no value.
Herminia
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  Very good essay, Herminia, Thanks for the link. And speaking about the 'platonic bond' the word platonic pertaining to Plato, a Greek philosopher, or his philosophy of love between soul and soul.
I think every reader of HP series accept that H/Hr are soul mates. Physical relationship is not a compulsory thing in romance. And the line between romantic and platonic is very thin and it can be crossed at any time without much difficult. Connection between the souls, that is more important. If it is not there, the physical relationship has no value. 


I know! I think a lot of R/Hr and H/G shippers have taken that "Harry and Hermione are very, very platonic" quote too far. Rowling is clever and surely she knows the original meaning of the word. To put it simply, platonic is love from the neck up. Since that "soul connection" exists and their friendship is strong, it would not be a great leap for Harry to develop a romantic love for Hermione. After all, he developed those feelings for Ginny seemingly out of nowhere! laugh.gif
*dementor*
Like everyone says "ron and hermione is TOO obvious"
i think "R/Hr is TOO obvious to happen"
Like Nymphe said, JKR always makes "unexpected twists" so we will be expecting anything wink.gif
Herminia
Happy Valentine's Day, all you H/Hr shippers! happy.gif Unfortunately, I've been too bogged down with homework to write more of my Fan Fiction for the last week, but after my mid-term exams are out of the way, I will finish up the next chapter smile.gif

And, in the spirit of our ship, here is a link to a lovely picture drawn by the ever-talented Rjade829:
http://photobucket.com/albums/y44/rjade829...rent=012906.jpg
That's very Valentine's Day, isn't it? smile.gif
Lupin123
Honestly, Herminia, hereafter,whenever I think about Harry and Hermione I will not remember Dan and Emma faces, but these cute little pictures. I like them so much. (especially the pumpkin pie painting and the picture of all our delutions) Thankyou.
Herminia
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Honestly, Herminia, hereafter,whenever I think about Harry and Hermione I will not remember Dan and Emma faces, but these cute little pictures. I like them so much. (especially the pumpkin pie painting and the picture of all our delutions) Thankyou.


Isn't Rjade829 a great artist? I know, I love her stuff. My favorites are probably the one where Hermione has her arms around Harry's neck and they're about to kiss (the grayish-tinted picture) and the Ron/Luna Valentine's one. smile.gif
Lynn
Heya Herminia, sounds good! Do you know where I can find that stuff? Maybe you can post a link or so..smile.gif
silverbullet
QUOTE (*dementor* @ Feb 12 2006, 04:55 AM)
Like everyone says "ron and hermione is TOO obvious"
i think "R/Hr is TOO obvious to happen"
Like Nymphe said, JKR always makes "unexpected twists" so we will be expecting anything wink.gif

But then, some of my friends say that H/Hr is too obvious....i don't think it's that obvious.....is it?
I'll be upset if there's no H/Hr in the last book, but it won't stop me reading it.
As for the unexpected twists, they just make me laugh....especially when Harry kissed Ginny in front of everyone...personally, i expected Ron to explode...anyway, i'm going off topic, ignore me..... tongue.gif
Lynn
QUOTE (silverbullet @ Feb 15 2006, 03:09 PM)

But then, some of my friends say that H/Hr is too obvious....i don't think it's that obvious.....is it?

Well, until I came here on VTM, I always thought it would be H/Hr. Honest. But that's just because I thought H/R argued too much, and I óverlooked the reason why they argued. But I understand your friends point.
*dementor*
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But then, some of my friends say that H/Hr is too obvious....i don't think it's that obvious.....is it?
I'll be upset if there's no H/Hr in the last book, but it won't stop me reading it.

lol....H/Hr is NOT obvious! I mean, its so not like it and it doesnt look like it is going to happen.....its so obvious that its R/Hr but thats the thing.....ITS TOO OBVIOUS (sorry for the capital) And ofcourse the famous "unexpected twists" PROVE H/Hr so there! mad.gif
lool...sorry but i was getting angry tongue.gif

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But I understand your friends point.

so are you basically trying to say that H/Hr wont happen? (not trying to sound rude.... just out of curiosity im asking)
Nymphe
QUOTE (silverbullet @ Feb 15 2006, 09:09 AM)
But then, some of my friends say that H/Hr is too obvious....i don't think it's that obvious.....is it?

To me, H/Hr is obvious in the movies and subtle in the books.

QUOTE
I'll be upset if there's no H/Hr in the last book, but it won't stop me reading it.

I will be shocked for a moment, but then shake my head at Rowling losing the opportunity to throw in one of her twists.

QUOTE
As for the unexpected twists, they just make me laugh....especially when Harry kissed Ginny in front of everyone...personally, i expected Ron to explode...anyway, i'm going off topic, ignore me..... tongue.gif

I wish I could have laughed at that, if Harry had not nearly killed someone a few days prior. I can guarantee you Hermione would have knocked the taste out of his mouth for that, no matter how much she cares about him.
Herminia
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I wish I could have laughed at that, if Harry had not nearly killed someone a few days prior. I can guarantee you Hermione would have knocked the taste out of his mouth for that, no matter how much she cares about him.


*nods grimly*

There were so many things that were out-of-whack in HBP. I have to wonder if Love Potions weren't playing a bigger role than it may seem at first sight. I mean, right now it looks like only Ron was affected, but why did Rowling make the Love Potion he'd ingested be past its due date? Because it was an "expired" Potion, it had an extreme and incredibly noticeable effect, so what would a regular Love Potion be like? Would we have Harry/Ginny with a regular Love Potion?
silverbullet
Why can't JK Rowling just make our lives nice and easy and tell us who Hermione loves!!?? sad.gif It's evil! I just want to know!
Herminia
She's leaving it up in the air, SilverBullet, but in the end, we'll ship Hermione with who we think is best for her, and if you think Hermione and Harry are best together, then ship them together! I think we may well have a Harmonious Book Seven.
Dumbledore's Widow
QUOTE (Herminia @ Feb 15 2006, 03:21 PM)
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I wish I could have laughed at that, if Harry had not nearly killed someone a few days prior. I can guarantee you Hermione would have knocked the taste out of his mouth for that, no matter how much she cares about him.


*nods grimly*

There were so many things that were out-of-whack in HBP. I have to wonder if Love Potions weren't playing a bigger role than it may seem at first sight. I mean, right now it looks like only Ron was affected, but why did Rowling make the Love Potion he'd ingested be past its due date? Because it was an "expired" Potion, it had an extreme and incredibly noticeable effect, so what would a regular Love Potion be like? Would we have Harry/Ginny with a regular Love Potion?

I have often wondered what is up with all of the love potions?! If H/G happened as a result of love potions, I would want to know who gave it to Harry and when?

But, maybe the love potions are just 'red herrings'! JKR WANTS us to think that they play a part, when in actuality they do not. Bummer! I was hoping Ginny was involved with love potions and responsible for Harry's sudden obsession (and lust!) for her! dry.gif
Lynn
QUOTE (*dementor* @ Feb 15 2006, 07:17 PM)


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But I understand your friends point.

so are you basically trying to say that H/Hr wont happen? (not trying to sound rude.... just out of curiosity im asking)

No, that's not what I'm saying. I wouldn't have been here if I wasn't a H/Hr shipper tongue.gif . Haha, no, I just tried to say that I understand some people think it's obvious. Later, you'll see it's not opbvious at all and Jk never lets anything happen which is already obvious. cool.gif
Lupin123
Hai,
The huge amount of HP readers think that H/Hr is not obvious. So we have to consider that H/Hr is not obvious.So......
And there are some readers who guessed correctly that Snape was the half blood prince before they completed the book. One member in the portkey thread guessed correctly that there was something wrong with Mad-eye Moody in the middle of the book. So people are there who can guess correctly but they are very little in number. So we can't say that H/Hr is not going to happen because it is obvious. What is obvious to the majarity of the readers, that is not likely to happen.
I came across one point,
In GOF Bloomsbury paper pack chapter 27 page no 449
He repressed a shudder at the thought of what might come spilling out of his mouth if Snape did... quite apart from landing a whole lot of people in trouble- Hermione and Dobby, for a start- there were all the other things he was concealing.... like the fact that he was in contact with Sirius... and his insides squirmed at the thought-- how he felt about Cho....
Why he felt in that way? What is wrong with his feelings about Cho?
In OOP chapter 21 page no 408,
Harry dreamed he was back in the DA room. Cho was accusing him of luring her there under false pretences; (text) Then she turned into Hermione (text)

What is that false pretences? Did he pretend to Cho that he liked her?
Did he try to make Hermione jealous by going out with Cho? Is it there in between the lines or I am becoming more delutional day by day?
*dementor*
Lynn, oh thank god..thats good then.
Im satisfied now that i know you are supporting this ship..for a moment i thought you hated it!
Runes
Hey everyone! I haven't posted in a while so I thought I'd stop in for a moment. I've just finished reading HBP again and I'm amazed at how much I missed the first time. There's a ton of Harry and Hermione 'stuff' hidden within it, I can't belileve I was so upset before. It's still very apparant how much they care about each other.

I liked this particular part after Harry has had his encounter with Malfoy on the train and has now returned to his friends.
[B]Pg.155 British Edition[/B]

'Where've you been - blimey, what've you done to your face?' said Ron, goggling at him along with everyone else in the vicinity.

'Why, what's wrong with it?' said Harry, grabbing a spoon and squinting at his distorted reflection.

'You're covered in bood!' said Hermione. 'Come here -'
She raised her wand, said, 'Tergeo!' and siphoned off the dried bood.

'Thanks,' said Harry, feeling his now clean face. 'How's my nose looking?'

'Normal,' said Hermione anxiously. 'Why shouldn't it? Harry, what happened, we've been terrified!'

'I'll tell you later,' said Harry curtly. He was very concious that Ginny, Neville, Dean and Seamus were listening in; even Nearly Headless Nick, the Gryffindor ghost, had come floating along the bench to eavesdrop.

'But -' said Hermione.

'Not now, Hermione,' said Harry, in a darkly significant voice.

Harry didn't want anyone else (including Ginny) to hear what he had to say. But it's very clear how Hermione was worried about him, and she 'fixed' him once again, lol.

And this as well:
Pg. 163 British Edition

Harry and Ron met Hermione in the common room before breakfast next morning. Hoping for some support for his theory, Harry lost no time in telling Hermione what he had overheard Malfoy saying on the Hogwart Express.

When Harry has something important to tell, he goes right,to Hermione. He assumed that he would have her support (he usually does) so he decided to discuss it with her, as usual.
*dementor*
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"Harry and Ron met Hermione in the common room before breakfast next morning. Hoping for some support for his theory, Harry lost no time in telling Hermione what he had overheard Malfoy saying on the Hogwart Express."
When Harry has something important to tell, he goes right,to Hermione. He assumed that he would have her support (he usually does) so he decided to discuss it with her, as usual.


lol...yea hermione always seems to be agreeing with Harry on simply everything. Poor Ron, being left out to argue by himself rolleyes.gif hahaa
well....i found some more quotes just loking for the page... tongue.gif
*potter*
harry and hermione are the best couple hermione's always caring for harry and its sooooo cute she hugs him in the fourth film and i think she had a crush on harry in the 1st book or film whatever. it will be so cute if they get together in the end dont you think. Romio and Juliet Wanna-be's lol.
Herminia
Hello everyone!

I agree, Potter, Harry and Hermione were simply adorable in the fourth film (and I would venture, films one, two, and three...but I may be biased towards them wink.gif)

For all interested parties, I've posted the first part of a small fic about the Weasley-Delacour wedding. It's a different take on it than the wedding scene I put in my huge Year Seven fic, and I'd love it if you'd go read it smile.gif

http://www.veritaserum.com/forums/index.ph...=ST&f=28&t=8903

Speaking of the longer fic, I'm afraid there won't be updates until mid-March (spring break for me) because of circumstances beyond my control. Namely, my mother will be undergoing major surgery and all my energies will be focused on her recovery, and also because of my heavy workload at school sad.gif I promise to write on it again as soon as I can. sad.gif
Lupin123
Hai Herminia,
I will check out the fiction in our veritaserum forum. My wishes for your mother's speedy recovery and take your own time for these updating things. No hurry. All the best.
Dominique
Hey everyone! *waves* Long time now see! smile.gif

Wow, we have a new thread and everything, way to go everybody! Sorry I haven't been posting much, well really not posting at all, for some reason I have been really busy with other things. Not that I haven't been reading all the posts, because that I have to keep up with. biggrin.gif

Anyways, can you guys believe that OotP has started filming?! I'm so excited! I really do hope they keep some of the H/Hr moments. Which moments are you guys looking forward to seeing and if you had to pick one over the other, what would it be? That's a really though question, but if I could pick one moment that is done really well in the movie I would have to pick the DoM scene and all that goes on there. The Gwarp inccedident would come close behind.

And as OotP comes closer, the dreaded question .. will they put in the R/Hr kiss? In GoF there was suppose to be a kiss on the cheek at the end of the book, but instead in the movie they made it a kiss on the forehead in the second task. What will they do with the R/Hr kiss do you think? Will it be true to the book? Well, it's a little unfair if one kiss is portrayed exactly as it was in the book and the other one isn't as both were true to canon.

What if they make Hermione kiss both boys? What a shoker that would be!
-Dominique
leochick
I have to say, the scene I'm most anxious to see from the OotP is the whole DOM scene. That's numero uno on my list. I really hope the director sticks to the books on this whole scene, because not only am I looking forward to the whole Harry/Hermione scenes, but also Neville fighting along with him. I just hope they don't switch Neville and Ron.

The other scene I'm looking forward to is the chapter, Out of the Fire. Just picturing Hermione pulling the wool over Umbridge's eyes will be priceless.

As for the R/Hr kiss I think it might be left in, but if they do, I think they might have Hermione kiss Harry on the cheek to, so the movies can still play the triangle route. I think it might play out like the deleted scene from the GOF movie with Hermione holding both guys hands on the balcony overlooking the lake.

But, I will say this, it will not surprise me if they switch Hermione and Ginny's role during the whole library scene, of course, that's if they don't cut this scene at all. But, the thing is, if they do this then I think they'll pull the same switcheroo in the Half Blood Prince movie, so that Ginny will be in the library instead of Hermione. (Keeping fingers cross that this won't happen)
Lupin123
Hai,
I would like to see the scene after H/C kiss, the conversation between the trio, DA meetings, Gwarp scene and MoM scene. And very much eagar to see Cho's angry comment of 'darling Hermione's idea'. I think they will certainly include the R/Hr kiss after Ron's victory in the match. The flight of the twin brothers is also one of my favourite scenes.
Runes
I would like to see the part where Hermione is talking about the way Harry can signal the DA meetings through coins and Terry Boot mentions that she did a protean charm and that it's seventh level magic. I would just love for them to show Harry's reaction to that, when he looks sideways at her. I definitely want to see the DOM, just the way it was in the book. And where the twins let off those hilarious fireworks in the school, the ones multiply if you zap them and yell inappropriate things. And of course, the swamp thing they made, that's awesome!
TheHarryinMe
Hello all!

First order of business: Herminia, I wish your mother well on her surgery and a speedy recovery. And I hope your classes go well (I know what a full schedule is like, as I feel swamped right now also).

Back to the thread. I would add my ideas to the growing list of scenes we want to see for Order of the Phoenix, but I'd just sound like a broken record. However, I would like to add the dementor attack in there, as I have a suspicious feeling they could find another reason for Harry to leave the Dursleys. And also the shouting scene when he arrives at Grimmauld Place - it really brings out his true feelings and Hermione's heartfelt reaction. hug.gif

And since when did the forum get all the new smilies?
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(This one is quite fitting...)
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