Nimbus
Feb 16 2006, 06:15 PM
The Potter's were a very affluent wizard family. Not only James and Lily, but Jame's parents as well. Does anyone find it strange that Harry was left nothing but gold? No family heirlooms, no items that were in the Potter's house, no house, only gold. The only thing Harry recieves, that we know of, other than the gold is an invisibility cloak- and that really wasn't left to him DD just decided that Harry should have it because it was his [harry's] father's. Somethings I'm particularly instreseted in what happened to are their wands.
What do you think happened to all of their stuff? Was it auctioned away? Sold? given away? or maybe it is being kept for harry until he becomes of age?
Just wondering what you all think. Any ideas?
sdca
Feb 16 2006, 07:46 PM
Hmm...good thoughts. Perhaps his parents possessions were sold and then added to the gold that he got, or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he will get those things once he comes to age. But why would he get them after a certain age? What's so dangerous about them? He got the Invisibility Cloak in his first year, so if his parents wands and other possessions were kept by somoene, why couldn't he get them now? Or perhaps he would get them when he completes Hogwarts? Strange how there's no other relatives left except for Aunt Petunia. Didn't Lily have any other brothers and sisters? Didn't his grandparents have other brothers and sisters? And who's Mark Evans? Can someone answer that for me?
Anyway, sorry for all the questions, ha ha. Hmm...their wands...wouldn't you think that they would've been destroyed in the explosion? I think so, so I guess that brings down two of their things that he could possibly not have. What I think is that possibly their possessions were sold, and the money that was earned from that was obviously given to Dumbledore, and then he deposited it in Gringotts. What does anybody else think?
jamorg
Feb 16 2006, 07:47 PM
I believe it was all left to Dumbledore. And i think they left it up to him to decide when Harry should recieve certain things. After all he couldnt recieve them right after his parents death due to the fact he was only a baby and was living with the Dursleys.
And now that DD is dead or presumed dead i believe Harry will recieve a lot of things that were his parents and DD's and we will learn a lot more about Harry's family and DD.
sdca
Feb 16 2006, 07:52 PM
Good point jamorg. That's quite a thought. But how will he get those possessions now that Dumbledore is dead? I mean he is obviously dead, no one can survive the Avada Kedavra curse...well...except for Harry of course. But I don't think Dumbledore could survive that. If so, then the whole reason as to why Harry is so popular will die down and he won't be the special person anymore. So I do think that Dumbledore is dead. But the question is, how will he receive those items if Dumbledore's dead?
passerby
Feb 16 2006, 08:48 PM
I think that most of thier possessions were destroyed, somehow. Hagrid says in SS/PS that he rescued Harry from the "rubble" of the house, kind of implying that the house had been reduced to rubble. Therefore, their possessions would also be damaged. Then it mentions that Muggles started swarming all over the place (I think it might say "before the muggles started swarming all over), so it's also likely that, as Mundungus does, others took advantage of the tragedy to add to their own stores.
I'm just glad that they had scads of gold for Harry in Gringott's, though I'm sure Dumbledore wouldnt' have let that hold him back.
NickHilton
Feb 16 2006, 09:39 PM
I wouldn't have expected Harry to have made a will yet, so if he died it would all go to his nearest living relative Aunt Petunia! Unless he had a son/daughter, or if he got married.
EDIT:Oops wrong Potter. No i think most of Lily and James stuff would have been destroyed. Voldemort magpye behaviour might mean that he took there wands or something even after Harry destroyed him. Perhaps Dumbledore went back and collected them or perhaps they were destroyed.
cesador
Feb 19 2006, 06:44 PM
hmm i think that most of the stuff was probobly destroyed anything left of somewhat importance was probobly seised by the ministry of magic for evidence, and any remaining stuff was probobly sold by DD and put in gringots for harry.
Tuitus
Feb 19 2006, 07:40 PM
I agree things like the wands and other materials the Potters would need on a day-to-day basis probably were destroyed when the cottage was engulfed by the rebounded Avada Kedavra. However, it is possible that other possessions like faimly heirlooms were kept away from them on purpose and secured by others like Dumbledore being given the Invisibility Cloak. So I think Harry may be addressed by members of the Order or Gringotts who will pass the Potters' full estate and maybe some portion of Dumbledore's material possessions.
If the Potters' wands weren't broken, it is possible almost anyone in the immediate vicinity could have scavenged in the rubble and found them. The best-case scenario would be Hagrid who may have given it to Dumbledore who could have given it back to Ollivander. The worst case would be Muggles, the Ministry as cesador says or even a Death Eater.
notdumbledore
Feb 19 2006, 10:53 PM
I have to agree that most of the stuff got destroyed. But I think the one flaw I see here is the will. I am not quite sure if wizards make wills. They tend not to follow Muggle traditions except for holidays. Other than that I can't think of were the possesions would of went. We really don't know much about wizarding traditions and the way they do things.
laurahonest
Feb 20 2006, 08:49 AM
Most everything of his parent's was destroyed in the messed up curse, I have no idea what happened to his grandparent's things. Wizards leave will's Sirius left a will leaving everything to Harry in book six. Maybe we will find out about this in the next book.
passerby
Feb 20 2006, 05:08 PM
| QUOTE |
| I am not quite sure if wizards make wills. |
We know that Sirius had one, because he left everything to Harry and Dumbledore, when he met with Harry in HBP, was questioning if the will would hold, in case there were some sort of protection around the Black's property that he didn't know about. I think it's safe to say that they do make wills.
Dumbleydore
Feb 21 2006, 05:11 AM
| QUOTE (jamorg @ Feb 16 2006, 01:47 PM) |
I believe it was all left to Dumbledore. And i think they left it up to him to decide when Harry should recieve certain things. After all he couldnt recieve them right after his parents death due to the fact he was only a baby and was living with the Dursleys.
And now that DD is dead or presumed dead i believe Harry will recieve a lot of things that were his parents and DD's and we will learn a lot more about Harry's family and DD. |
I agree with everything that was said here.
Former Death Eater
Feb 22 2006, 06:38 AM
If as Tuitus says, " The wands and other materials the Potters would need on a day-to day basis", were destroyed, where then did Voldemort's wand come from? He was right in the middle of the destruction and somehow managed to get His wand back. Therefore, James and Lily's wands have to be held by some-one. It stands to reason they would be.
Vindictive Dark
Feb 22 2006, 06:54 PM
| QUOTE |
| The best-case scenario would be Hagrid who may have given it to Dumbledore who could have given it back to Ollivander. |
| QUOTE |
| Therefore, James and Lily's wands have to be held by some-one. It stands to reason they would be. |
These things are making me wonder something.
If the wands still exist, then is it somehow possible that Ollivander, when selling Harry his wand, intentionally sold one of James and Lily's wands to him? It just seems like there's something to that...
jamorg
Feb 22 2006, 09:18 PM
No Olivander didn't sell Harry one of his parents wands because if you remember he let harry try two wands that were exactly the same i believe and Harry didn't respond to them well. Harry got a wand similar to Voldemorts.
Bumblebee
Feb 22 2006, 10:58 PM
jamorg --
As an aside, the films present the story a little different than the books. In the book, Harry tries almost every wand in the shop (without any effect) before they find the right one for him. In the film, Harry tries only two other wands, and with devastating results. I suppose the filmmakers thought the latter version more interesting and dramatic, but it is a bit silly and quite beside the truth.
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walters
Feb 27 2006, 10:40 PM
ok since there was an exlosion at the potter's house after voldemort attempted to kill harry wouldnt there heirlooms and everything else be destroyed so there really was nothing left excpet James's invisibilty cloak(and the marauder's map if you want to count it) and the gold but thats it there was no house...and i believe hagrid said in the first book that he had to pull harry from the rubble from the destoyed house( if im wrong then please correct me)
gabaluba
Aug 12 2006, 05:15 PM
Yeah... now that I think about it, it's really confusing.
Maybe that's the surprise we'll get on book 7, maybe the Trio will find something interesting on Harry's destroyed house..
I just don't want to see Harry crying at his old house!
Pyro
Aug 14 2006, 04:06 PM
i think that DD had everything stay where it was and when harry goes to grodrics hollow and finds his house ( if DD put it all together) then all the stuff could be in the house waiting for him.
that or DD saved what he could before the house was blown up and will give it to harry some how....
MIKOH
Aug 14 2006, 04:31 PM
i think mundungus stole them as he did with the black family and their wands were crushed when the house were destroyed.
hp6
Aug 14 2006, 05:00 PM
I think that all their stuff is in godrics hollow, because it is rightfully harrys, so i think that dumbledore would make sure that he got all of it, and by this he put spells on the home so only harry could retrieve the things inside.
Kymar
Sep 6 2006, 05:40 PM
I have always assumed that all their possessions were destroyed, along with their house, the night they died, with the exception of the invisibility closk, but who knows? Harry comes of age in the next book, so maybe he will come into his inheritance then?
taintedlove-xx
Oct 31 2006, 08:45 PM
Sorry if this has already been said but... it says in PS that the house was in rubbles, so most of their stuff pobably wasnt salvagable, and mabye in book 7 harry will get some of thier stuff becuase of DUmbledores passing, becuase maybe , like the invisibility cloak, he was just waiting until a certain time to give the stuff to him ?
Loyal_Badger
Dec 13 2006, 03:28 AM
I think Harry will come into his inheritance when he turns 17. And i think this inheritance will contain potter heirlooms as they wouldnt keep them at the house seeing as they knew voldemort was after them, they'd want them all secure in gringotts, also, it might include the house or ruins at godrics hollow, more gold, and possibly several things from the house itself when it was destroyed. If the ministry came and cleared it all up, and processed everything of the scene, then they would have put it in the Potter family vault.
As for the house, it could have been in any state, we are only going on Hagrids word, and at the time, he was very emotional and perhaps didnt notice everything or took something for granted. And perhaps the ministry repaired the house to an extent so they could search it more thorougly?
Dumbledore's Daughter
Dec 13 2006, 03:58 PM
I agree with most of what was said above. The Potter's house was in ruins after their encounter with Voldemort and so most of the day-to-day possessions and perhaps their wands were probably destroyed.
As for family heirlooms. Any of the Evans' more than likely went to Petunia as she would value them more them Harry. She would have known her parents and harry never met his grandparents (or at least doesn't remember them). But what about the Potters? They were afterall a pure-blood family and so presumably had at least some interesting wizarding possions, like the invisability cloak. They also probably had a house where James grew up. Maybe he sold this with a lot of the possessions when his parents died or maybe like someone else said they are in storage. If this is the case they will most likely come to Harry when he comes of age. They are differnt to the gold. He needed the gold to survive in the wizarding world - buy books etc. but mightn't neccessarily need the family heirlooms.
And as an aside to whoever was wondering about Voldemort's wand - JKR said in one of her interviews that Wormtail picked it up after the explosion and later returned it to his master.
LunasLil'bro
Apr 7 2007, 09:18 PM
To me, that seems really unlikely. I think that the gold and the invisibility cloak are the only things that aren't destroyed. Anyone else think this?
gina hp iz ace
Oct 6 2007, 02:24 PM
i have no idea what so ever
potterwatch07
Oct 11 2007, 06:20 PM
That is true, Harry tried two wands that were similar to his parents, and neither worked for him. Lily's wand was good for charms, and James' wand was good for transfiguration. Harry's wand was best for defensive spells, much as Voldemort's was, but he then turned his wand into a more powerful dark arts wand.
I would say that most of what they had was destroyed by the explosion of the Avada Kedavra. I would not think there was anything left. What was left either DD had, or Hagrid was able to scavenge when he retrieved Harry. There were not even any photos left. The photo album that Hagrid gives Harry are photos that he got from friends he found that had pictures of them.
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