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El Verte Veritas
I think its ripe time to start theorizing for book seven. Start writing our own. Not fan fiction, just general chapter by chapter plans. Similar to the one I, crsdba, and kermer wrote in the pre book 6 discussion area. I think we have to start out with what we wonder about the next book. What we have to answer:

1. DADA Teacher
2. Harry's return to Hogwarts?
3. The last Horcrux
4. Any quotes that Rowling has used for this book.

Thats all I'm putting for now. Remember, this is not a place for theorizing who and why and what. Its simply just for a couple chapter plans. I don't have the link with me now, but look for the Chapter Poll Chronicles by El Verte Veritas in the pre book 6 discussion... Thanks biggrin.gif
Meggie
Well, I'm going to tell you what I think, but FYI, the mods are going to move you to the Seventh Book discussions wink.gif

DADA teacher - I think it's going to be someone that we've heard of but don't know a lot about, like Kingsley Shacklebolt. I also heard a theory that it could be Moody again since Moody never actually taught (it was Crouch), which I kind of like.

Harry's return to Hogwarts - I think someone will convince him to return, at least for a while, or that he will be coming and going throughout the year. It wouldn't be a Harry Potter book without Hogwarts!

The last horcrux - Not quite sure which one you're talking about here since a couple of them are uncertain. But I think that the remaining ones are: the locket, the cup, Nagini, and something of Ravenclaw's.

Quotes - Well, there really haven't been any yet, have there? We'll have to wait on this one biggrin.gif
razzberry2
Meggie's right El Verte, I'm going to move this into the book 7 forum where I am sure it will get a much better response. wink.gif

razz
El Verte Veritas
Thanks Razzy, your right, I should have put it here, thanks for the transfer. Also, I don't think Meggie understood this forum, here let me explain it:

Heres a challenge, write a summary for each chapter of the seventh book, using all that you know, which is only what Rowling has said about the book, heres the facts.
P.S. (Assume there are 30-35 chapters):
1. A Character does magic, late in life. (Merope Gaunt?)
2. Harry having his mothers eyes is important.
3. There is more to the sorting hat, than read in the first 3 books.
4. Harry will be able to use magic, outside of school. Will he?
5.Harry’s parents jobs were important.
6.There is more to the cats.
7. Harry gets a new pet.
8. Hogwarts Professors Love Lifes will be revealed
9. Victor Krum will return
10. The Return of the Two Way Mirror
11. Theres more to Aunt Petunia. What could it be?
12. Character(s) will die.
13. There are no quidditch matches.
14. Dumbledores backstory will be revealed.
15. Harry and Snape will meet again.
16. We will se more of Umbridge.
17. R.A.B. mystery will be answered.
18. The Founders of Hogwarts will play an important part
19. Importance to DD “gleam of triumph”
20. The remaining horcrux is an object/animal/person that we already know of.
21. A New DADA Teacher, so can we assume Slughorn will stay?
22. We will meet a new mentioned Order of Phoenix character. Which one?
23. Ravenclaw, will get their day. Does this mean the last Horcrux came from Rowena?
24. The last chapter, is an epilogue.
25. There will be another scene in the DOM.

These are all confirmed quotes from Rowling herself, except #25, a question she “refused to answer”. I think that’s decided smile.gif.
El Barto
Hey El Verte Veritas...long time no...uh...read?

Those all sound interesting. Do you think there could be more that we can confirm ourselves...you know...common sense stuff or stuff that is bound to happen?
Nimbus
I think there will also be some time devoted to explaining the hatred Petunia has for Lily and just the whole situation that happened there to make her feel like that. Also what happened to Lily and petunias parents.

Also, Lily seems to detest James when we see them in the pensieve so maybe there will be some time devoted to explaining how they got together.

And most importatantly, time devoted to telling just just what exactly happened at Godrics Hollow that night.
R@du D.(eath)
QUOTE (Solorund @ Aug 28 2005, 12:56 PM)
And most importatantly, time devoted to telling just just what exactly happened at Godrics Hollow that night.

I've ben thinking, and it seems to me that the best way of finding out exactly what happened at Godric's hollow is for Harry to use the Pensieve with his own Memory (assuming someone teaches him how to extract his own memories). JKR said that the Pensieve doesn't show what happened only from the person who remembers's point of view, so we could get a lot of details about what happened.
Padfoot313
Chapters:

1) Last trip to Privet Drive
2) R.A.B revealed
3) The wedding
4) Return to Hogwarts (DADA teacher discussed in this chapter)
5) Search for answers (horcruxes)
6) OotP on the move (stopping DE's, voldy gets angrier)
7) What happen to DD
8) The veil and mirror answers
9) The wonder of the animals (buckbeak, crookashanks, etc...)
10) Information on what horcuxes harry found and destroyed
11) Harry will take his Newts before the end of hte book.
12) The graduation,
13) the foursome in the OotP
14) A summer of hunting
15) Only one horcrux left
16) Harry pledges his love to ginnny (Ron to Herm)
17) the final battle

This is all I got, hope this is what you were asking for
Auror37
Well, I am assuming that every question will be answered in the last book. Such questions about:

1. The seven Horcruxes
2. The importance of Lily's eyes
3. R.A.B.
4. Which side Snape is on
5. Dumbledore's death
6. Hogwarts' future and the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher
7. Importance of Petunia
8. The mirror and the veil
9. Who will die

Now, we know those questions will be answered (hopefully).

My chapter predictions were mentioned in another thread, let me see if I remember.

1. Petunia's Secret or The New Headmaster/Headmistriss
2. A Burrow Wedding
3. Godrics Hollow
4. Return to Hogwarts

These are the only ones I remember. It is possible book seven might open with Voldemort, Malfoy and Snape in chapter one.

I also believe ther might be chapters called "Return to Grimmalud Place", "Dumbledore's Portrait", and "The Mirror and the Veil."

I also think the last two chapters will be "The War Ends" or "The Final Battle", and "The Boy Who Lived."

Considering I don't know how many chapters there will be, I can't be too sure where to place the ones mentioned above.

Other possibilities:

Hufflepuff's Descendant (Zacharias Smith)
Return of the Prince
Wormtail's Last Stand


Note, the latter three to me is a slim chance, but anything is possible.
El Verte Veritas
Pattern Time Folks!!! Since Rowling has only given us 25 clues, some of which were obvious, and others that are so opaque they would be useless to guess about, all we can do is create patterns. These patterns can be made by the first six books, as I will do. The first chapter of each book worked like this.

1 – Told Harry and Voldemorts story, the past
2 – Told Harry’s “now”, and how its been at the Dursley’s.
3 – Told Harry’s “now”, grouped up all that happened so far.
4 – Told Harry and Voldemorts story, the past
5 – Told Harry’s now, and how its been at the Dursleys.
6 – Told Harry’s “now”, and grouped up what had happened so far.

Gee, this is really something isn’t it? Now, the next thing would be Harry and Voldemorts story in the past. The only time that connects is the night at Godric Hollow, gee wonder what it will be about?


Chapter 1 – Halloween at the Hollow. Remember how James and Lily were killed at Halloween in Godrics Hollow. Nobody would really know what that chapter was about by just reading the name.

I wanted to create a pattern about the title patterns, but found that futile and impossible. If this is possible, then you guys can try…. In other words try, try with all your might!!! Just jokin’
El Barto
sorry, haven't been able to do any posting since school started....

That makes sense El Verte. The only pattern I can think of for the titles is:

SS/PS: Object
CoS: Place
PoA: Person
GoF: Object
OotP: Group
HBP: Person

So it goes Object, Place, Person........then Object, Group, Person.......object can also be called a "thing". If you go by the definition of a noun (person, place, thing, or idea), the only one missing is an idea or something abstract I guess. Harry and Voldemort have that connection....could that be it?
El Verte Veritas
Whoa, I have no idea what your talking about crsdba (btw, same here with school, I miss my veritaserum posting abilities sad.gif )

Book 1 - The Boy Who Lived - Person, not object.
Book 2 - The Worst Birthday - Idea, not place.
Book 3 - The Owl Post - Thing, not person.
Book 4 - The Riddle House - Place, not object.
Book 5 - Dudley Demented - Person, not Group.
Book 6 - The Other Minister - Person, your right there.

Other than that though, I'm not getting iDt crsdba. Unless...

blink.gif Duh! blink.gif You thought I was talking about book titles didn't you. Nah, this is for the chapter 1 title. But then again, you bring up a point. We should think of the next title of the seventh book. I gotcha now. Man I'm dumb! laugh.gif

But as for you pattern

Person
Idea
Thing
Place
Person
Person.

Yeah, it doesn't work for chapter titles! Darn!
Remus_Lupin
the only thing i can think of is who it will start of with in the 1st chapter
so far it has been
1-Mr Dursley
2-Harry
3-Harry
4-Frank Bryce
5-Harry
6-Prime minister
This leaves the possibility that it will start somewhere or with someone else
This is how I think it will start.
He was sitting at a desk writing a report to Rufus Scrimgeour. Being the head of department was tough but not as tough as what the past few years have been. What with some of He Who Must not be named latest actions. But not even He who must not be named make him more upset than he had been these past years. Somehow he wished it would end. He had nothing to loose. He had allready lost it. Especially after what happened last week. After being made head of department Voldemort tracked down his wife. Suddenly he heard something behind him. He turned and screamed with horror. Behind him was the face that represented death. Lord Voldemort. Lord Voldemort lifted his wand and Shrieked the words "Avada Kedavra" And he was dead before he hit the ground.
What do you think of my brief outline of the 1st chapter and who do you think it is
Meggie
Oh, you are evil. You're talking about Arthur Weasley, aren't you? But that's really not too pleasant of a theory. I know the book is going to be dark, but this is a bit much.
Remus_Lupin
no it isnt arthur weasley but that would be a good idea if people were to try and guess who he is.
El Verte Veritas
Nah, its Kingsley Shacklebolt... Is he supposed to be the OoTP member that we haven't gotten to meet yet? But why would you start out a story with him?...
Padfoot313
Wow, that is rather cruel, but thank heavens it isn't about Arthur and his wife, that would be a terrible beginning. Perhaps you mean the Diggory's, Malfoys or Longbottoms. THese are the only married couple I could think of.
Remus_Lupin
Yes Padfoot it is actually Mr Diggory. He could be an important part in the book but I think it will be more of a shock to Harry to recieve the daily phrofet. Open it. And see Mr Diggory, Mrs Diggory and Cedric staring back at him. Like this.
Harry was in a deep slumber. One thing that made being back at Number four privet drive. He could sleep peacefully again. Well most nights. This night he wasnt being plagued by visions of Snape at the top of the tower. A jet of green light erupting from his wand. It hitting Dumbledore square in the chest. Seeing Dumbledore at the bottom of the tower. Hagrid carrying the body to a white tomb. And if this wasnt bad enough to relive at night he saw Dumbledore drinking the potion. Harry forcing him to. And then some nights all he saw were millions of notes all signed with the same initials. R.A.B. Suddenly he was awoken. An owl squecched as it came through the window. Harry sleepily pulled out his money bag. He didnt have any Knuts so he absentmindedly pressed a sickle into the owls pouch and went back to sleep.
When he woke up again he saw the newspaper lying on his bed. He opened it up and jolted. The headline said:
Newly Instated Head of The Department of Control Of Magical Creatures found dead in his office.

That would be what I would think a shortened form of Book 7 Chapter 2
El Verte Veritas
Ok, lets get this baby back up and running. Heres the first group of polls!

1 Will the first chapter be through Harry's Perspective?
2 Will it be about the past?
3 Will it be about someone else...Voldemort, Potters, Snape, New Character, Other?
4 Where will it be located? Dursleys, Hogwarts, Ministry, New Place?

Ok, once we get a general consensus about this, maybe we can start writing a brief summary of what will happen in the first chapter. This is not a fan fiction post, I repeat, it is not a a fan fiction post. Just think of this being the same as last time. Look in the pre-book 6 forum if you weren't part of this the first time.

As I said once we get an idea of the first, we can go into other chapters. These are just brief summary's. Also, it was done last time and was a great deal helpful. If anyone would like to put what they wonder about the next book, other than the obvious (Snape Good or Bad, Horcrux Locations, etc.), that would be fun and helpful.

Let the games begin.
El Barto
Glad its up and running again.

I have a feeling its going to be Harry talking to the Dursleys again. Telling them what he has to do, where we find out what Dudley saw/felt when he encountered the Dementors, and Aunt Petunia's secret. At the end of the chapter, or after his birthday, he's going to journey to the Burrow.

So I think we'll see it in Harry's perspective, at the Dursleys.
Remus_Lupin
I personally do not believe Harry will need to destroy horcruxes at all. I believe JK might be making us run around in circles when the answer was staring us in the face for years. Philosopher's Stone I believe is the most important of all 6 books so far. I think importantwise the books go like this:
Book 7(Final book)
PS/SS(Holds clues for later books)
GOF(The central book)
HBP(Harry looses the most important person)
POA(a shame this is so far down the list as it is the best out of the 6)
OOTP( Harry experienced a great loss)
COS(Not as important I feel)

If you look in my "PS/SS clues left for later books" topic (also in book 7 discussion) you will see why i believe this.
Each Challenge represents a book and things that happen in it.
Fluffy-PS/SS-Has to get through something he never thought he could or would
Devil's Snare-COS-Harry has help from his friends and Hermione looses her head. "Theres no wood" and using a mirror to look for a basilisk even though she had probrably worked out why they were only petrified
Flying Keys-POA-Harry has to fly to move onwards. To the stone and on with his life
Chess Set-GOF-Harry has to get past many challenges through a war like situation. chess being based on war and the beginning of the magical war.
Troll-OOTP-All seems to easy. Led into trap
Potions-HBP-2 potions easily wiped out. 2 horcruxes easily wiped out.
Mirror-book 7- This is because Harry has to reflect on his life to defeat Voldemort. He finds out a traitor but is mistaken of true identity. Defeats LV

Harry did this with only 2 potions. Maybe he doesnt need to destroy the horcruxes but has to reflect on his own life. the good and bad things he has done. Voldy could aswell. The evilness destroys LV's body or the love does
therefore harry does not need to destroy all the Horcruxes
El Verte Veritas
I dunno, I think that would be chapter two...

I mean, we haven't yet gotten a recount on what happened that night in Godrics Hollow. I'm sure that would be the first chapter...

I'm glad your back crsdba and former Chroniclizer. We do need a better name... laugh.gif

I do like Mr. Lupin's idea, although it is farfetched as far as Mr. Diggory goes. Although I'm positive we will be given a review of the previous books as usual in one of the chapters, and it was well written.

First chapter Name: Halloween at the Hollow

I think it will be similar to the Minister of Magic and Spinners End chapters, in that they are not written by Harry's perspective or as his dream.

El Barto
Glad to be back!

I get Remus, but there could also be another explanation...which I posted in that thread. There is something there, and I understand where you're going with it...congrats! Theres probably more clues like in the Horcrux Murders thread, among others. Somehow it has to be "pasted" together...

It probably would go through someone else's perspective, or in the past...which is still in someone else's perspective!

Hey, I guess if he destroyed the horcrux in Voldemort...or Voldemort himself...he would necessarily have to destroy the others. But he'd probably wind up in the same state we saw him in PS/SS...which goes back to it being the most important book so far that Remus was talking about. However, some believe that his Death Eater's know his secret...if thats the case then others will search for a horcrux and "revive" him. If not, then he'll just "pass away".

The thing is though, Harry would know that pieces of Voldemort's soul are still out there and I'd guess he'd try to destroy them...

El Verte Veritas
Well, this is really strange, because I know I made a topic on this before. It got small response though, so maybe the mods deleted it? Dunno, but I could not find it, through search or flipping through Pre-7 Discussion.

So heres what its about, if you weren't here for the pre-6 discussion. I write out how I think the last book would go, and make a poll on that chapter. Different members comment, make there own chapters, and give their opinions.

I'm going to think them through, but promise to have 1-5 posted tomorrow. In the meantime, you guys can post your chapter ideas. I'll make it easy for ya, you know that in the beginning chapters (event if its not #1) that he will have his final days at the Dursleys. And you know the whole Bill/Fleur wedding is going to happen. The beginning shouldn't be too hard.
El Barto
The Green Truth returns...

I'll wait to comment on what you have but I'll add what I think will happen in the first two chapters anyway (which makes what I said contradictory...anyway...)

Chapter 1: Has to do with the Dursley's
Chapter 2: Harry goes to Bill and Fleur's wedding
Chapter 3: some time spent at the Burrow, at the end Harry, Ron, and Hermione will go off to Godric's Hallow (sp?)

Chapter 4: Goings on at Godric's Hollow
Chapter 5: After discovering something, the trio will go to the next step in the search of the Horcruxes...
cesador
hmm my thought would be something like this

Chapter 1-dursleys
Chapter 2-something with the weasleys
Chapter 3-find out if harry will go back to hogwarts
Chapter 4-harry learns something new about horcruxs or possibly a character
Chapter5-the trio start to gather info on the horcruxs

then from here it could be he goes to hogwarts or he goes in search of the horcruxs

the 2nd to last chapter would be a showdown with LV then the last chapter would be some sort of summary of the outcome.
walters
Chapter 1- Dursleys
Chapter 2- Bill/Fluer Wedding/other Weasley going ons
Chapter 3- Deal with Going back to Hogwarts or not.
Chapter 4- Info about Horcruxes
Chapter 5- Searching for Horcruxes/Going back to school



i dont know thats what think its guna be like...
Peyton
1- Harry going back to the Dursley's for the one time he said he would in book 6 and find out weither or not he will go back to Hogwarts
2- Harry going back to the Burrow and to Bill and Fleur's wedding.
3- Harry, Ron, and Hermione depart from the Burrow
4- Their attempt to find out more about Voldemort and his Horcruxes.

In my opinion..
El Verte Veritas
The First Chapter no matter where its located has always been about the present. So it can only be in about 3-5 places

The Burrow
The Dursleys
Snapes Hiding Place
Hogwarts
Malfoy Manor

Now, there has only been one first chapter that Harry wasn't in (The Other Minister). So I think we can assume, he will be in this one, or at least the chapter will be a dream he has. So my idea.

Chapter 1: Petunia and Promises.

jamorg
Ok ill take a crack at it:

1. Dream about DD
2. Harry, Ron, and Hermione at the Dursley's
3. Snape
4. Weasley's (here the wedding will happen, harry will tie some loose ends up with ginny, and we will deal with the whole going or not going back to hogwarts(probably some Mr. and Mrs. Weasley telling them they should go back).
5. Either off to Voldy or school


Oh yeah and i predict we will see Hagrid in the first 5 chapters. He could be going on Harry's mission or just there for some help every now and then. I think he will be at the Weasley's though.
kirkstain
ok heres mine

1. dream to do with voldy (seeing something happening)
2. train journey back to london (left off at school in HBP)
3. dursleys
4. wedding
5. godrics hollow

i think something important will happen on the train journey back
El Verte Veritas
In every single book, the first chapter has been set in the present. In general, the consensus is that the first chapter will be located at the Dursleys. Which is sensible, as 4 of the 6 books have been set there.

So how about Chapter 1: Petunia and Promises.
El Barto
The majority of us think that it will have to do with the Dursleys...except for Kirkstain, and jamorg...though a dream would be interesting...

so your first chapter, El Verte Veritas, sounds good. Where will it go from there?

And I found the other Chapter Poll Chronicles cool.gif Chapter Poll Chronicles
Aphrodite
Chris is right, the other thread is'chere. I'm debating whether to merge...this one with that one. Hope that's all right with yall. wink.gif

Thank-you.
El Verte Veritas
In 5 out of the 6 books, accidental magic has occured in the second chapter. At least magic of some sort occurs by then.

So, the question is who will do the accidental magic? My thought is that someone will be trying to apparate, and splinch themselves.

Remember how Ron and Harry have to take the test still, how about this for a title.

Chapter 2: Test to _______

I think that wherever the person ends up, is what will fill in the blank.
El Verte Veritas
Chapter 3 will be held at the Weasleys, during the wedding. Harry will meet some old friends and meet the new DADA teacher in this chapter. The new DADA teacher I predict will be a male (Male/Female Ratio is always equal, and Snape is now gone so it has to be a male).
So Chapter 3:

Weasley's and _________

_____ is the name of the new DADA teacher, not sure who that'll be. But I'll do some research.
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