Hahaha too right you are, Dana!! I reckon all those who have been here long enough know that eh...well sue me for being passionate about PoA *tee hee*

Really? But whyyy? **tries very hard not to pout and start wailing** Waaaa!!!!

Ooh.... I thought I get to see Dobby again in GoF but looks like he's not important enough to be included.

**start losing faith for GoF**

Ash!! Save me!!!!

Aren't you the knight in shining armor...

Mate...I'm disappointed in you!! *tsk tsk*

Oh, you know I have a soft spot for Dobby... (and Snape and Remus and Sirius and Filch... yulch!! *him* they can cut off from GoF anytime!! )

Don't worry Ash, Nick has saved me... I'm not going to pass critism towards GoF anyway, the movie is not out yet! I'm sure they'll compensate for the absent of Dobby and make it an enjoyable movie anyway. It's just a shock the other day that make me say that...

I guess you are right, ash.

I hate to admit it but you are right...

*sighs* I think it is gonna be a good movie a really good one, just like PoA (I loved that movie) but I still think they could be a little more faithful to the books...

Ermmm you misunderstand, mate. What we've seen in the set reports and the trailer...that *is* what's gonna be in the final cut. It doesn't mean, as you've interpreted, that thye've filmed it all already, launched clips and images for everyone to see, then decide to cut it out. That wouldn't make sense now would it?

This thread was opened when WB *first* announced what was going to be included, what was going to be cut, and what was going to be drastically cut from the film. This was when filming was just about to start or had just begun.

Hope that cleared it up for you...don't get into a hissy fit just yet!!

You mean, everything about S.P.E.W.? We couldn't hear anything about it? I mean, this one is quite important if Dobby and Winky is in the movie. And the Dursley, this means that there's no fetching Harry using Floo Powder by the Weasleys? It could be a comedic scene...

Before I comment for this, what do you mean by drastically cut? For me, it didn't sound so good...

Nothing against it but the spider thing. For me, that's important because this is the reason why Harry and Cedric were together to touch the Cup, right?

That means that it will be included in the movie but will edited, cut down, a lot to fit the movie's timeframe. For instance, The QWC might include just the arrival, then straight to a brief bit of the match, and then the Dark Mark panic. It wouldn't include every little thing that happened in the book.

Well it isnt a really strucking information, since scenes with Snape have been in all 3 movies dractically cut. I hope there WILL be a scene where Snape will show us his Dark Mark.

But there will be no shaking hands scene with Sirius.

I absolutely agree.

If they are showing the whole family, why dont Mrs. Weasley? It would take 1 minute from the whole movie if she said 2 lines.
But they might cut her off because there wont be any Burrow scenes, just QWC scenes: Harry, Hermione, Weasleys walking down the hills to the portkey. I wonder if they are gonna meet Cerdic...

We're not gonna see him in Hogsmead.
What do you think of this? I thought we would see him more than just in fire. That would be one or two times.

Just call me Dana... And don't worry, I've calmed down a bit now... It's just that I would hate for people to think that I'm one of these people who go on and on about how the movies suck without giving them a chance. My real objection to the cuts - though I understand a lot of them, believe me, the Dursleys and the QWC, for example - is that I personally think that they're losing the heart of the books by starting to cut into the threads that bind the whole story together - Sirius and Snape being two of them. BTW, they're not cutting Snape altogether - but his role is substantially reduced from the book. I think, as far as I know, that the conversation with Karkaroff is still in there, but if they've altered the final scene (as they must have done if Julie and Gary have gone) then I would imagine that Snape's role has been fiddled with a bit there too, so I'm really not sure whether there will even be an indication in the film of the previous history between Snape and Karkaroff. As I said, cutting into things that I believed were important to the overall story.

And I really do believe that a lot of it *does* come down to money. Yes, Emma Thompson is undoubtedly a class act too - as is Dame Maggie Smith and Michael Gambon - but if you think about it, their screen time is actually very limited. As far as I know, actors are paid based on the size of the role - how many lines they get and so on - so the smaller the role, the less they cost. Cutting characters, giving lines to other characters and changing the dynamics of some of the relationships to accomodate such cuts are all done with the ultimate goal in mind of saving money - which they can, instead, spend on all the publicity, special effects and so on that will impress the non-HP fans into parting with their hard earned cash to see "a movie" about "a wizard" instead of Harry Potter....see what I'm saying?

So yes, Sofie, they could afford the actors if they wanted them - but they don't. They'd rather spend the money on crowd-pleasing instead.

And, to give them their dues, it's been a pretty successful strategy so far.

Yes, but movie-makers cant make a movie only for the fans, because if they did, they wouldnt earn so much money. Ordinary poeple want to see special effects and living dragons instead of dull monolugues(sp?) . That is really sad, but we should get used to it...

Sofie, JK's made a lot of money just on fans and so could WB if they wanted to. the question is, is money ever ENOUGH? well, the only thing they need to concider is that in the way they're dealing with the movies right now they might lose some of the actual HP fans, such as Dana.

and Dana, i feel much better now

Yes, but JK is an author, while WB is a company.
JK writes books because of herself, while WB makes movies to earn money which is not bad at all, until they do not ruin our books.

i think this is a bit jealous behaviour; fans are supposed to support their favourite author while she has, lets say, problems with the writing, Ive read, that she HAD some problems whe she was writing GoF. We must also consider, that she has a family + 3 children, and she wants to spend time with them. She also has to have a little rest between 2 books, and if that means that she is writing something else, we should be fine with that. Remember, she always wants to make a perfect book, so lets give her time.

Sorry for my grammar, ive just woken up.


i think this is off-topic, sorry Dana.