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speekingtree
Hi.
I was just wondering if anyone knew why the directors had transformed the appearence of Professor Flitwick, halfway through the movies. It seems a bit odd. At first I assumed it was a different/new charactor but I notice he [Warren Davis] is credited as the same charactor.
In the first 2 films, he is very old looking with a full white beard etc, Theres a really good shot of him in the Windardium Leviosa scene (Philosopher's Stone), Then from Prisoner of Azkaban onward he looks a lot younger with a bucket type hair cut of shiny sleak black hair, and no facial hair. How weird is that? I think I read somewhere it was to do with JK's ideal of how he should look.... but shouldn't they have thought about that at the beginning of film 1 rather than to change him half way through the films, especially as we have no explanation (within the films).

Any thoughts? wacko.gif
Peyton
I always wondered about that. It seems pretty unprofessional to completey change a character's looks and I agree this should have been thought-over ahead of time. At first I didn't even realise that the black haired man was Flitwick. I don't know what I thought he was, a substitute maybe. hah.
El Barto
I noticed that too, and whenever something happens like that just remember that a wizard did it...jk, I guess Rowling took notice and wanted it changed (but he's the same in the first two like you said). On her website I think I remember reading that she envisioned (sp?) Flitwick as a tiny old man...but Warrick Davis is good, but maybe they shoud have kept him the same way...I dunno...
Urik Burik
Well i dont mind that much.
I just think it a strange dissision espesialy as it is the same actor.
And i always imagined Flitwick like he looked in the first two.
drhpluvr4l
I noticed it, too, and I don't like it. They could have at least put on make-up and a beard to make him look remotely the same! I actually thought it was another teacher at first because he was so different.

*~drhpluvr4l~*
BUCKBEAKtheGIPPOGRIFF
Younger Flitwick is much more funny )))
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Capricorn
Oh well, anything WB does in a more canon way is fine with me, since we're not exactly being bombarded with detail from the books. I like Flitwick more this way, but he hasn't said anything more than the one line to Hagrid at the staff table has he?

I wonder who came up with the Goblin-like look in the first place...
Caitlin in Australia
I always liked Flitwick in the first two films because of the Goblin-like look, I thought he had Goblin blood in him. He looked so wise like this but the new Flitwick (I had to check with my friend it was him) just seems too young to be the head of Ravenclaw and a charms professor, who was a duelling champion when he was younger!
BUCKBEAKtheGIPPOGRIFF
2 Those who prefer an older Professor: Just try to imagine him as an orchestra conductor........???
speekingtree
It would certainly be interesting, lol. But I take your point.
I don't mind the younger Flitwick, hes ok as a charactor, I just think its odd changing him 2 films in with no explanation.
Could he have taken a youth potion, has someting amazing happened to him??? Its just a huge can of worms, and I like answers. tongue.gif
BUCKBEAKtheGIPPOGRIFF
QUOTE (speekingtree @ April 29, 2006 04:03 pm)
It would certainly be interesting, lol. But I take your point.
I don't mind the younger Flitwick, hes ok as a charactor, I just think its odd changing him 2 films in with no explanation.
Could he have taken a youth potion, has someting amazing happened to him??? Its just a huge can of worms, and I like answers.  tongue.gif

Year, you are right here.

I suppose, Colambus decided to shoot older Flitwick to follow the book. But Cuaron was not interested in such a goblin-like professor. Newell was not too. In these films (3&4) he shouldn't be so ... clumsy and untidy.

It was a Chris's mistake. Older Flitwick was useful only as a Professor for Charms
Tigers Eye
Elderly flitiwick. The one who taught us the importance of swish and flick. When i had seen the new guy in PoA, i didn't reconicise him as flitiwick, i just thought he was a member of staff and had no importance what so ever. It then dawned on me one day why he was with the main teachers in GoF and i kind of got upset by the change of the character
joeyjoejoe
I know what youre talking about. It's the same thing with Tom the Barman. They changed him a lot. Also, between 2 and 3, they make Tom Felton (Malfoy) go for a whole new look, which I find to be somewhat disturbing. Oh Well.
Triad
Had a response done for this but when I went to post it the site shut down. Annoying! Anyway, I don't see the point in worrying about something as trivial as Flitwicks new look since he's such a minor charatcer in the movies. It's almost like whinging about why there are birds flying across the screen when there aren't any in the books. Useless! I'd be more concerned with the things they left out, or changed completely, like Sirius's face in the fire. That could have been done so much better. He looked more like the head on the back of Professor Quirrels in PS/SS. Things that influence the plot line are more important then a directors choice to give a character a haircut.
Severus_Snape
I never really noticed that....I just thought there were two little goblin people running around teaching students. But yea that is wierd and i liked the older one much better.
gryffindorgirlie
I voted for the old flitwick. He's way cuter! I thought if they were going to change him they'd at least make him look slightly the same. Then again, I do like the bit when he crowddives in GoF.
Seriouslysirius
I like the younger one because he gets to be spinned around in the Yule Ball.
I do like the Proffesor Flitwick older one though.
I thik he's a better teacher but the younger one is still my favourite.
HPfan#1
I prefer the old one because it looks more like the little funny professor i've always imagined. To be honest when i seen the new look for Professor Flitwick i didn't even know it was ment to be him!! It's supposedly the same actor!!
HermioneClone
I prefer the older Professer Flitwick. He was much more of what I pictured when I thought of Flitwick. It didn't immediately occur to me that the younger Flitwick was the same actor or character. I don't know who I thought he was at first.
I suppose it's not a big deal, just a bit odd they did that.
After the Burial
I did not know that it was the same actor. The old Flitwick looked more like the half-goblin that he is supposed to be. He seemed more wizardlike than the new image they have adapted for Goblet. The new Flitwick simply did not seem like the funny, squeaky voiced professor I love from the books. Why in the world did they change his costume?
SnakeCharmer74
I love Warwick Davis so I knew ahead of time that he was the same actor, but it didn't dawn on me that Professor Flitwick was the conductor. I had somehow thought he was the 'music teacher' or something like that.

I do recall JK stating that she always pictured Professor Flitwick as just a short or little man so I always pictured him that way in the books.

I do think it was a little off that they changed his look completely between movies 2 and 3 but then I started noticing all of the other changes.

The school uniforms made a change; the ties and scarves were a deeper color, the crest on their robes is different, and their robes are lined with their school colors.

Small but noticeable.

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between 2 and 3, they make Tom Felton (Malfoy) go for a whole new look, which I find to be somewhat disturbing.


I just took this for Draco changing his look. Very few 13 year old boys keep the same hair style they had at 11. My youngest is only 7 and he changes his all the time.
Capricorn
QUOTE(After the Burial @ Jan 22 2007, 06:15 AM) [snapback]308457[/snapback]

I did not know that it was the same actor. The old Flitwick looked more like the half-goblin that he is supposed to be. He seemed more wizardlike than the new image they have adapted for Goblet. The new Flitwick simply did not seem like the funny, squeaky voiced professor I love from the books. Why in the world did they change his costume?


Actually, I suspect they changed Flitwick closer to what Jo had imagined. She said herself she was shocked/surprised when she saw him in the first two films, and Cuaron looks like the kind of director who'd want to honour her imagination.

I like the new look, simply because it's supposed to be that way (or something like that, at least), though I still think of Flitwick as white haired. I imagine him as an older version of the new Flitwick, I suppose, even though it used to be closer than the goblin-like image of the first two. I am one those unfortunate souls who saw the first film, and read the books afterwards. tongue.gif
etphonehome
That just goes to show you doesn't it? I never even noticed. That's probably because I watch the movies...as movies and scrutinise the books. In other words, since I think the movies are too hashed up to worry about the differences each director has made and how they have deviated constantly from canon, it's only the content of the books that hold any interest to me.
Albus Dumbledore
I liked the older Flitwick much more. He was described as such in the book, and it matches his squeaky (SP? I am slow this morning!) nature. JKR herself said he had some golbin blood, I think, and the first set matches that piece of information much better. The older looking Flitwick had longer fingers as well, a symbol of extreme power that is apparent throughout the septology.

~Albus
padfoot17
I would like to have the old Flitwick back. It was the way I envisioned him when reading the books. But then they changed him in the third movie. I was a little upset. I mean yeah he isn't a big part of the movie, but you want it to be as accurate as possible. I will get over it though. Just keep focused on the more important aspects of the movie.
jiggery-pokery
Definitely elderly! (Isn’t that how it is in the books?) I think the younger Flitwick caused many non hp-readers to be confused. My sister who is a non hp reader thought that they were two different characters!
Celsius
The older the better..and wiser too. I love Flitwick and I find him much more of an interesting character when he's older. He's wicked fun and a "charming" Professor. Plus he is much more wiser when he's older, so I prefer him that way.
Xxfrankee-babyxX
I prefered the old flitwick. Its how i imagined him in the novels. The new one is like wrong. An insult to JK Rowling and her literative works. Bring back the biddie.
Ciao Soleil!
QUOTE(BUCKBEAKtheGIPPOGRIFF @ Apr 29 2006, 11:14 PM) [snapback]181646[/snapback]

2 Those who prefer an older Professor: Just try to imagine him as an orchestra conductor........???


Funnier! Even funnier with the crowd diving!
FireryPhoinex
I like the old one because the new one looks mean and grumpy, but the first one is like a mini DD.
amortentia_lover
I definatly preferred the old Flitwick, he looked exactly how i imagined, the younger version just didn't seem right...although i did like the yule ball scene tongue.gif
QUOTE
I love Warwick Davis so I knew ahead of time that he was the same actor, but it didn't dawn on me that Professor Flitwick was the conductor. I had somehow thought he was the 'music teacher' or something like that.

i thought the exct same, it was only when i re-watched that scene the other day with my friend, and i said 'who is he? some sort of music teacher' and my friend laughed and told me it was flitwick...hmm...
But i stick to what i said before, the old one was much more what i imagined, and his voice made me laugh so much, it was te perfect 'squeak' that i think Flitwick would have...
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*Priori Incantatem*
omd thank you so much, i know im going to sound really stupid and slow here but iv been trying ot figure out since POA who the music composer guy with the weird hair-do was?! LOL i never even realised that it was the same actor!

but why on earth would they randomly make him appear about 100 years younger and suddenly turn into a composer?! lol it just seems the strangest thing ever blink.gif

but im glad its all been cleared up for me anyway tongue.gif
Luna♥Lover
The reason he looks much younger in the later films is because Alfonso Cuaron (POA director) told Warwick Davis (Prof. Flitwick) that there was no part for him in the movie. But they did cast him as the music teacher, who is much younger with dark hair. They liked the new design so much, they decided to keep it.

In case you're interested, I like the old one better, because it was more like the book. But I find that the younger one more suits the character, so I don't know!

Oh, and Warwick Davis also plays Griphook in movie 1 (the goblin).
Filius Flitwick
I easily have to go with the original Flitwick. He is the character that I enjoyed the most in the movies with his cheery additude and likeable face. I hate how he looks now. Even if you want to make the character look more accurate, you should make their appearance fit that before you start filming. They should have just left him like that because that is how the charcter started out looking like.

Just from looking at the polls shown here, we can see that people, like me, prefer the original flitwick more. Another thing about him is that he brought humor into the film with his appearance. What makes a person smile more than a funny looking old man with a high, happy voice??

Now this doesn't have anything to do with the appearance but I prefered Flitwick in the first two because he was actually more of an important role. He didn't have much, but he was notable.

P.S. You would think I would know how he should look

~Filius~
MoonLight
I also voted for the old guy. Flitwick needs to be old, I don't know why!
HJP/HJG_TrueLove
I liked the elderly Professor Flitwick from the first movie. That is definitely way more of how I envisioned Professor Flitwick to be. I had no idea that the other guy was Flitwick, I thought it was some random teacher that didn't matter.
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