Jk rowling, in her website, meantions that allthough she liked sirius as a character very much, she still had to kill him for a specific reason. This could mean that Sirius has to play some role in helping harry defeat Voldermort, though sirius is suposedly dead.

ive always thought she had done it becuase now Sirius and harry were getting close and harry seemed to really look to sirius for help, were he needs to do things for himself which is what DD always seemed to do.

something tells me that there is going to be a connection to both sirius and dumbledores death, along with there being a serious part for the veil in the 7th book. because there was nothing that explained it sufficiently in either OoTP or HBP so theres got to be something to explain it. to me though i believe that both sirius and dumbledores deaths are means to show harry that he must continue alone andn that people will not always be there to guide him. that is my idea if in fact both are truely "dead". but also to me if it is all a hoax or a plan i believe it is to push harry emotionally to fuel his hatred and wanting to kill voldemort. having the only people who were parental or loving adult figures die right in front of you would cause a dramatic emotional change in anyone.

I think she did it to give Harry an extra jolt. It's sort of like a hidden power thing. Like if a mother sees her child under the wheels of a car somehow she finds herself in possession of more strength then she's ever known and manages to lift the car off the child. It's all a mind game. See something bad happen and your filled with fear and rage and are able to do things you never thought possible. That's what I think Harry will have, the ability to overcome Voldemort and rid the earth of him forever. I doubt Sirius will be involved in the final battle or how-ever it's going to end, but his memory will be enough to spur Harry on.

yes i kind of agree with triad (sorry if i misspelled) i think JKR did do it to give harry an extra jolt. this makes him mad and he wants to get back at voldemort and/or lastrange for killing him. (i would go for both though if i was harry) when sirius died harry felt that he had to get back at him. so harry was confident to find voldemort and kill him as he did to sirius. (but lestrange killed sirius dont forget)

Well when Ireally think about the books and stuff and re read stuff I dont thing that either of them are dead!I think that they are in some sort of Hiding. I think in the last book Dumbledor told Harry or Draco(I cant remember) that he can be placed in Hiding and they can fake deaths and stuff so that everyone thinks there dead. so i dont think they really are. But thats just me.

i think it's because, harry has to learn to realise that people will not always be there to defend him from the evil on the other side. But can we be sure that dumbledore and sirus are gone, we dont yet know why some people become ghosts and other;s do not. there is more to explain about the death matter yet.

Hello hello. I totally agree with headdabliss35 on this one. I remember in HBP Dumbledore had been talking to Draco about him going into hiding if he really didnt want to go over to Voldemort's side. JK hardly ever writes things just for the heck of it.. and considering DD had been saying all this so soon to his death, I always believed that he had been faking it as well. Therefore I don't think DD is truly dead (and I believe that somehow Sirius will play a part in the last book as well, not sure how yet, but the veil was never fully explained, and again... JK doesn't write things just to fill up space, so I think we will be hearing more about it as well). So if any of that was confusing at all, basically I think DD and possibly Sirius are alive and both will play a role in helping Harry defeat the Dark Lord in the end.

i only want to know one thing, if what headabliss is saying is true, you have to remember one thing, how could sirius still be alive by some hidden plan, if he was killed by a death-eater? now, im not a detective or anything, but wouldnt a death-eater surely want to completly kill there opponent, instead of only pretending to kill them? i think that dumbledore is alive somehow, but i dont think theres much hope for sirius, i mean, lestrange killed him, its over, hes dead.


Chris

Hello again. In the book, Sirius was not killed by Avada Kadavra. If i remember correctly Harry said he saw Sirius get hit by a jet of red light caused by the spell. We all know that AK causes a green jet of light. It has been to my understanding that Sirius was hit with the expelliarmus curse (which causes a red jet of light) and was only 'killed' because he was thrown backwards throught he veil. So if by chance the people who are hidden behind the veil are still alive and just living in some sort of limbo, then it is possible that Sirius would be one of them, because he was infact never hit by the 'killing curse' being Avada Kadavra. Ciao for now!

I was just thinking that maybe the death of sirius and dumbledore, although it gave him a jolt to HATE and attempt the unforgivable curse - I think it is more important that he still couldn't do it. I think that the important lesson is about love and that is how harry will defeat LV. I'm not really explaining myself very well

ok here goes, I once read that when that when you have an enemy you have 3 choice run away (and we have often been told that there is no running away from fear - it always finds a way of getting you), face them with hate or forgive them

its the decision between the last two that finally decide who lives and who dies. Hate is a terrible thing and cannot be defeated it is very circular - as can be demonstrated with james -snape-harry-snape thing - hate begets hate begets hate, so I think that the realisation that he still can't use the unforgivables even after such tragic losses and subsequent feelings of hate will be significant.

Also, I think that what harry learns from the pensieve (especially tyhe bit where dumbledore says something like is it possible that you are actually feeling sorry for tom) is significant, I think that the greater understanding of LV will enable harry to symapthise with him and forgive him (although seemingly impossible) for what he has done, even to those that he has loved,. It has been shown that LV cannot 'handle' love (like when he possesed harry) and noone has ever really befriended him or understood him - so I think somesort of act of 'ok I accept that you have killed the people I love, I understand that it must have happed and why you did it' rather than going in all guns (or wands *ahem*) blasing and creating giving off waves of hatred (which I think somehow feeds LV, as love feeds harry)

I'm not very good at this, ok lets try again with the analogy of light and dark, the dark wizards represent hatred and well erm the dark, and the good side (i.e. harry etc) represent light and love - the darkness is unmoving and seeks to remains, as does hatred, however light is moving and seeks growth and change - it has been said that there is not darkness is only a lack of light, and that darkness being stable cannot defeat the light since there is no such thing as darkness it is only the removal of light - and dark (hate) cannot defeat dark (hate) BUT a single shining of light upon darness make it well erm light - so hatred cannot defeat love (harry still loes sirius and his parents and of course the whole love protection thing) BUT love CAN defeat hatred

does that make anysense, I think that the deaths are significant as it may teach harry the importance of love and that the only way to defeat LV is not through hatred but through love

hopefully that came out of my head in some sort of decent order

God I hope he has some type of roll to play!!


Yet he is dead...my this is getting interesting...

Actually, I read somewhere that Rowling planned to have a role for Sirius in Book 7. I don't know where I read this, so the info could be faulty, but I'd like to think it's true... something to do with the 2-way mirror, I think.
No, wait... but Harry shattered his! Never mind.
I think I know why Rowling killed off Sirius, though. If Harry had to go off and search for Horcruxes, and he always had faithful old Padfoot there to give him advice and listen to all his complaints, that would just be too easy, wouldn't it?

There is 0 no doubt in my mind that Jo was very sad over killing SIrius. She loved him, I am sure, and it was probably a hard thing to do.

But it needed to be done. Sirius was in the way, similar to Dumbledore. Sirius was going to fight with Harry right along side him when it came to the final confrontation. All of you scholars can understand that it would not be, what is the word, "right" for Harry, Sirius, and even Dumbledore to face Voldemort. It needs to be one on one. Harry vs. Voldemort. And Sirius' character was too protecting...he couldn't stay.

Sirius is and will always be my favorite character.

Well, what do you think about Harry's attitude towards Sirius?
As DD has always been like Harry's father, Sirius was like his brother or a friend, so Harry even felt RESPONSIBLE for Sirius (and he was mistaken, I think). That is why Harry's so sensible about danger over Ron, Hermione, Ginny and others now. So it's the main significance Of Sirius' death I think.

Well, first I think she did it because he needed to somehow help Harry with something in the seventh book. But then I figured that J.K Rowling is probably trying to get Harry alone. This sounds pretty bad but it keeps popping my mind. First his parents die at the same time. Then he meets/rescues Sirius and gets attached to him over a period of two years. Then he dies a heroic, yet tragic death. Then there's Dumbledore who Harry starts to depend on more and look up to...and what do you know, he ends up dead. All Harry has left now is Ron and Hermione, maybe Ginny, but most everyone else is gone. I suppose he has everyone in the Order but it's not the same as someone who he knows will look after him...but I dunno...

I think Sirius was killed off for Harry. I know Harry has seen death, but not to anyone he seriously cared about. I know you might debate his mother died in front of him, but he was a baby, and doesnt remeber much. Maybe this was a chance to help Harry to mature and grow up a little. Since he has to defeat Voldemort, he would need to be prepared for anything. Also, it can introduce some teen angst in there, and make him feel like he has no one to turn to, probably related to DD death. Just a theory but i think it has some truth in there.

I think that it showed Harry (and the others) how evil Voldemort really is and how dangerous the next years are going to be to. Harry has now lost his last family member to Voldemort and he's going to get his revenge. Rowling was also going to kill Arthur when he gets bitten by the snake, but she couldn't do it because Harry has lost his father and Sirius, who was the closest thing to a father, and she couldn't bare to kill him. Arthur was the only good father(alive) in the series.

Ok, Ive thought about this question alot. I think the reason Rowling Killed Sirius Off was because she wanted Harry to gain more hatred agaisnt the Death Eaters and Voldemort. I think Sirius death was the right thing to do in the end. Even tho Sirius Black is my favorite Harry Potter Character, I still think that his death was neccesary for the rest of the book.

i think she just wanted harry to slowly loose all parental figures in his life so when he's older he's toatally independant and can go do all the things he has to do without a family holding him down. think about it, if harry still had parents, or sirius, or dd or remus, then he wouldn't be as independant as he is now or as willing to risk everything.

This is an excellent question and one that I feel JK never fully answered. Ironically, it is still a mystery to me why did Sirius die (I'm not referring to the motive, but the manner) by going through the veil. We know that he was not hit with a lethal curse. We know that voices came from behind the veil. This, to me, does not even come close to the concept of death. Was there some sort of paralel dimension behind the veil wherein individuals are lost? The details behind this, which I believe would be quite relevant, were never explained. Perhaps JK will help us out. I mean, if she can add the little detail that Dumbledore was a homosexual, I see no reason why she could not explain (not add) the true mystery behind the veil. In his death, however, I do notice a pattern. First, Sirius became another one of Harry's loved ones to die. Mom, dad, Sirius and eventually Dumbledore and Lupin. I also notice that all of the Marauders were killed. In the end, the "war" took them all.

I think that Sirius's death had a lot to do with artistic form rather than story line necessity. There was a reason behind Harry's parent's death, as well as Dumbledore's and Snape's. Sirius death, in the middle of battle while seemly defeating his cousin, was a bit baffling. I felt that something would come out of it, however, nothing truly did (as opposed to Dumbledore's death). I think JK wrote more with her feelings than her gray matter when she killed Sirius. Then again, that would explain his death.

Love, RED