I have just seen that its Joh Williams (PS, CoS, PoA), who will write music to OotP. Im glad.

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Elessar, I'm just curious, where did you see that information. If it's true I'm really excited. I think Doyle did an excellent job, but for me Williams music, especially in the Harry Potter movies, is just perfection. Anyway, I really hope this news is true.

imdb.com has just deleted the (themes) after John Williams on music to OotP, which means that he is going to write to whole music. I think Doyle did it well, too, but no one is better than Williams...

Did I hear correctly? Our John Williams is returning for OOTP.
I am sooooo excited. I thought Doyle did a GREAT job with the
GOF score, I was very pleased they found such an excellant
replacement. But now the genious who is John Williams returns.

I LOVE the scores for the first three films and I am looking
forward to hearing his music again.

Doyle is great, but Williams is the KING!

Yeah ! it's so cool . I realy like the first film's music

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I heard from another Harry Potter fan site that John Williams is
NOT composing the score for OOTP.
Our director, David Yates, stated he has hired an old friend of his
to do the job. (Date of statement is 4/26/2006

The composer's name is Nicholas Hooper, and has been a life long
friend of the director, so it is no question why he was chosen for the
movie.
I am not familuar with his work so I don't know if he is good or not,
but I do know he is not nearly as talented as Williams.

We have not heard his beautiful music since the POA movie, and I
can not believe we will not hear it in the fifth movie.
As I said before, Doyle was great but Williams is the KING.

When it comes to composing, he has no equal and he can NOT be
replaced.

Aw, heck! John Williams was the best composer, and now he ain't composing no more! Well, hopefully, for HBP, Vangelis would be good.

NightDance--I was really surprised when I started looking things up on IMDb, how often this sort of networking seems to go on in the filmmaking world. Like actors who play smaller parts--they seem to end up in movie after movie that has the same director, or with major actors they've worked with before, etc.

Part of it though, I suppose, is that if you've worked with someone before, you know their work habits, you know if they do quality work, if they can be counted on and such.

John Williams' themes will likely be retained, I would hope. There are some of his themes that just are Harry Potter!

I don't think anyone can ever "replace" Williams; he's one of a kind. If Hooper is a really good composer I don't really have an issue with him composing for OoTP, but if it is as you say, Nightdance, and he was only commisioned because he is a friend of the director, than I'm a bit worried However, I'm sure it had to be okay'd by the producers and WB and if he's good enough for them then he's good enough for me...I'm sure they know what they're doing.

Through all of this, I wonder if Williams actually would like to return to composing for the films and they just havn't picked him up, or if they do actually want him to return but he just has other intrests and commitments to attend to.

John Williams was very good. I loved the peice they used in the GoF teaser trailer, and also when Sirius and Buckbeak escaped. Does anyone know the name of the song? I looked on the soundtrack but it wasn't there!
Patrick Doyle was also very good, I think. "Another Year Ends" is so sad and I cry almost everytime I hear "Death of Cedric".
I'm sure the new composer will try to make his work similar to theirs. Still, it won't be the same... Let's protest!

I think the one you are talking about (where Sirius escapes) is the finale track on PoA. The song on the GoF teaser trailer, if it's the one I think you are talking about, is a rendition of A window to the Past, which is on the PoA soundtrack. Actually, if I'm not mistaken, that particular rendition is the one found in the finale track on the PoA soundtrack also.

All of the HP composers tend to bore me with their music. I haven't heard of this one's work so he might be good...I doubt it though.

John did great for the first 3 films, but I guess it was normal to change a little since John now wants to work on his own projects only. He did great, but try not to ask him too much for the short term.

Patrick Doyle also impressed me with GoF, so much that I was expecting him to be back for at least for OotP. But no! The new director had to do otherwise and pick own of his own friends who didn't prove anything in movie scoremaking.

When I saw the name of Nicholas Hooper, I must first say that I was dissapointed for the lack of vision in looking for people in scoremaking. Nicholas Hooper did music almost only for TV series and was never part of great movie projects. If he didn't want Patrick Doyle, could the director have tried at least for the likes of James Newton Howard, Hans Zimmer, or even both (rekindling the style of Batman Begins) before going for a noname.

I agree: let's protest!

I definitely missed his composing skills in GoF. It really was a bit depressing to hear that his style wasn't there anymore. Sure, they used Hedwig's Theme a bit, but still...it's just not the same. Williams has this definite style and the Harry Potter movies are perfect for that.

He's such an amazing composer, and I hated to see him go.

I am rather disappointed but since I have downloaded all the HP music and haven't been on one of these forums before I wasn't aware that The Quidditch World Cup song wasn't John Williams though I must profess that my favorite of them is the POA track The Quidditch World Cup is my second favorite. Who composed for GoF(I love the Potter Waltz!) Please owl me.

Wow, that was suprising. I will really miss his great style, there will be no other John Williams ever again. He was great, hopefully he will put out some more stuff, but I don't know. I agree with priori_incantatem, let's protest!


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first of all dont get me wrong, i love John williams,Hedwig theme is my favorite and I would have preferred to have john williams,His stuff sounds very similar. I watched Sorcerer's stone the other night then the next night i put in episode 2 of star wars. they sound very much alike. but hey why not use a good thing? but anyway I'm interested in the new director and hope incorparates some more of that original theme music. all you have to hear is a measure and you know Harry Potter is going to be next.

Hey, what a wonderful thread! I've been looking all over for something like this...

Anyway, do we know for sure that John Williams will not be doing the soundtrack for Order of the Phoenix? Because I want to hear it from the official source that he is or isn't before I am extremely overjoyed or incredibly angry.

John Williams is amazing, no doubt about it. And Patrick Doyle wasn't bad, but then again, he wasn't John Williams. I think that the movies are starting to really lose the thread of the books, and changing the score writer only adds to that. John Williams has set the theme and style of the Harry Potter movies, and not using him is like throwing away a good opportunity to beg for disaster. If they use anyone else, good music or not, it is just a cheap imitation - not remotely Harry Potter at its greatest.

Therefore, I'm all for rallying up and protesting! Granted, I'll probably go see the movie still if he doesn't compose the music, but it just is becoming less and less Harry Potter and more of a 'sell-me' movie intended to make money for the greedy people at Warner Brothers (I'm not too big on the whole idea of making a movie to sell and profit - it should be an art form that deserves only the best and praise from its admirers - and John Williams makes that happen with any movie he composes for).

- On a side note, does anyone know if Patrick Doyle actually conducted the Goblet of Fire score or did he just compose it; becuase I know John Williams does both...

I'm actually quite dissapointed about this.

I really like John Williams. And I hope he does atleast one of the two upcoming Harry Potter movies. I absolutely loved the music for the first three, especially Prisoner of Azkaban. As 'TheHarryinMe' said, I think the first three movies really had a good, warm Harry Potter feel. I know it sounds a bit ridiculous, but John Williams added a lot to the movies for me. I'm a little worried about the fact that the director's hired an old friend.
Great.
Sounds fantastic.

But, maybe he'll turn out to be really satisfying. I hope so.

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well I think it that John willams did great to start out for the films and give Harry Potter a big name for the music. But I think now that they have the meledy and a theme they don't need him anymore. I think hopefully they'll add more singing to the next couple movies to make it more flexible. Orchestra is GREAT I love orchestra, but when you want an oscar for music from a movie you almost have to put some singing in there and that's what I feel they need.

I think with John Williams we're missing out on a genius. With or without John, I don't think Harry Potter will win an Oscar with music. Why get rid of John? I mean he has done the music for a lot of great classic movies like the whole Star Wars series, the Home Alone movies, Saving Private Ryan, Jaws, of course Harry Potter, and so many more. So the guy obviously knows what he is doing. He did the first 4, why not do them all?

But that's the problem, isn't it, k_weber08? Patrick Doyle, who did the score to Goblet of Fire, was an 'old pal'. And his music wasn't bad. It just wasn't Harry Potter 'through and through'. So I am a bit concerned about another 'old pal' coming on to do the music. Sure, he knows the director's style, but will it keep the cohesion between the whole series constant or work towards de-stabling it? I fear the latter with any composer other than John Williams.

Yeah i loved the music in the first three films it was moving but i loved the music on the trailer for gof i loved that music but music doesn`t realy matter to me its great anall the music from all the HarryPotter films are realy moving.

Oh... Well, he must be good, or I'll be very upset. But I'm not that worried, it's gonna be alright I guess, I mean he can't get someone for the job if he's bad just beacuse the person is his friend...

Ok...in all honesty, I like John Williams...but his style just doesn't seem to fit the darkening of the books. He fit better in the first 3 (especially in Sorcerer's Stone) b/c he's more "the wide-eyed child finding out he's a wizard" sound. Admittedly, his music was beautiful in PoA, much more mature sounding. But I find it hard to imagine that he could really fit the dark mood of the upcoming films. In SS, it sounded exactly like Home Alone or Hook. If he does manage to capture the mood, then he's made me a believer. But I think the one who did GoF was much more original and truer to the premise. that's just me.

What? No more John Williams music!! I just hope the new composer is good. I guess were going to just have to wait.

Ohhh i really like john williams music! there was some really good stuff in GOF when Cedric died, itmade it realyl sad. Hope this new guy is good because the music to the film is sooo important

Just because there is a new composer who has only done t.v. music doesn't mean he won't be good for the movies. Some people are, sorry to say this, being babies about the whole thing. So the new director wants to use someone else for the music scores. My thing is, some composers don't want to do movie scores because they haven't found a movie that inspires them. Give the new guy a chance. We still have nine months before the movie is released and only a month before the movie trailers are out. We can find out then if the newest composer fits the movie.

When I first watched Harry Potter, the music made the magic. It was not the acting or the visuals. John Williams made me feel that Hogwarts was real and that the music was the life of Hogwarts brought to my ears. Give him $10 million dollars a film for all I care. His talents should be in every film.

I certainly hope the new guy can inspire the same.

awe john music is the best



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Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That dude rocked!!!!

Too bad they didn't keep him eh??
Well if the music sucks (probably not though) we'll know who to blame

What does everyone think about a new composer coming on board of OOTP??

I would like to have seen John Williams back. Unfortunately he’s given up on Harry Potter and probably won’t return to score any future films.

I hope that Hooper incorporates some more of Williams’ themes, unlike Doyle who completely ignored them. What would be even better is if Hooper uses both Williams’ and some of Doyle’s themes in order to tie the films together a bit better.

For OOTP, I think we should hear a return of Williams’ “Window To The Past” motif, particularly with Sirius’ scenes, and “The Dementors” motif both from POA.

From Doyle I wouldn’t mind hearing Harry’s Theme again from “Harry’s Love” form GOF.

If Hooper is clever enough to use both Williams’ and Doyle’s “Voldemort” themes to create a more consistent theme, that would be brilliant!

And of course Hooper could introduce some new themes, for the Ministry, Grimmauld Place/Kreacher, Hogsmead, Umbridge, and the D.A./Room of Requirement.

I believe there is plenty of material for him to introduce his own ideas, but still remain faithful to the previous films.

I love John Williams has his music, I hate it that he's no longer playing music for Harry Potter!

I remember the tunes from all the first three movies. I can't remember anything other than the Yule Ball from Goblet of Fire. The music in Goblet of Fire was simply not memorable. This was what was lacking. John Williams creates memorable music.

Nelliemerk said:

"hopefully they'll add more singing to the next couple movies to make it more flexible"

But I think the total opposite! The 5th film is much more serious to the others, to add more singing would make it less so.
I love all the music for the Harry Potter films and I hope that the directors friend is up to scratch as there are high expectations for the soundtrack, but I guess we will have to wait to find out.

*gasps* did i hear correctly JOHN WILLIAMS is writing the music! [:

I really can't wait for the movie now that I know Jphn Williams is writing the music. It will be such a good moive once everything is put together.

John Williams is god, Doyle did a good job but the theme just didnt seem the same and the tension either, sorry Doyle but John Williams is a genious compared to you. WAHOO!! Now I really cant wait.

wow! i love john williamssss.. i think doyle's music in gof was ok but it has no comparisson w john williams' previous work in poa cos and ps! yey he's back!

Yeah, I hope Williams does the music this time around. I was really disappointed with the music in the 3rd movie, because it didn't really keep with that theme throughout the film. Everyone knows Hedwigs Theme and identify it with Harry. In the 3td film, we didn't hear it that much, which took away from the magic a little bit. Sure, we were presented with magic in the texts and the visuals, but for a film to really get to people, its spirit needs to overpower their subconscious mind. Sure, make the films darker, more intense (I think the intensity should be just as much in all the films, but the ever changing directlors seems to think otherwise), but keep that one theme going so we don't loose site of the wonders of magic surrounding Harry in everything he does, everywhere he goes.

I actually thought the music in PoA by John Williams was really fantastic. It's my favorite Harry Potter movie by far, and the music in that movie is the best, too. Buckbeak's flying scene, oh god. Gorgeous.

But I was under the impression John Williams wasn't doing the music for Order of the Pheonix, it would be really nice if he was, but I'm not sure about that. Hm.

John Williams is so fantastic. Whenever I even think about Star Wars I thank God for John Williams, hah. The Star Wars original Trilogy was great regardless, but John Williams' music made it even greater, and extremely memorable. When anyone hears the Imperial March, they think Star Wars; that's really important for a movie. The Binary Sunset music in A New Hope is perfection. Music can make a mediocre movie good, a good movie even greater, or it can ruin everything.

I wish that if they couldn't get John Williams for Harry Potter, they would atleast try for Hans Zimmer. Hans Zimmer is really neat, and pretty much just as awesome. I mean, all of the melodies in Pirates of the Carribean 1 and 2 stick in your head, and they're all so fantastically simple. I was really dissapointed with the Goblet of Fire music because there was nothing to remember; there were scenes that could have been more moving if the music was better, and I hate when that happens. Think of in Pirates of the Carribean Two, when the Kraken is destroying the Black Pearl--the music is fantastic, you might not notice it, but it's what makes the scene.

Oh, my God. I have to stop ranting.

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John Williams is the most oscar-nominated person ever. There is not an Actor, director, or composer alive who has as many nominations as him. so according to statistics John Williams is the best way to get an oscar.




You dont think John Williams can do "dark" stuff? Does "Jaws" ring a bell? How about "The Emporor's March" from "Star Wars"?

John Williams can see a storymaker's vision and write music that fits it so perfectly that you don't even have to think about it. That's what makes him so special. That's what makes him the greatest film composer of all time. He has done around 200 scores for tv shows and films of all different types and there is not a composer on this planet who can sense a mood and portray it better than John Williams.

While I don't deny that John Williams is pure genius, and while I know he has as many Oscar nominations as there are people in China, I don't think he's the only guy for the job. I, for one, adore Patrick Doyle's GoF score. Maybe I'm partial because he tends to use violins more, but it is one of my favourite CD's, right up there with Williams's PoA score. (That was a masterpiece, eh!?)

I think the amount of Oscar nominations (or lack thereof) isn't necessarily a measure of your composing skills. It's not a bad indication, but it's not the only way of telling. Sorry, but the Academy is so fraught with politics it's not even funny. Don't you think it's strange that Star Wars never won anything after George Lucas made a few enemies in Hollywood with The Empire Strikes Back? Isn't it completely ridiculous that Chronicles of Narnia won the Oscar for makeup and not Revenge of the Sith? Even worse - how come finding Neverland won the Oscar for best score against John Williams's PoA score? Harry Potter is grudgingly given a nomination or two every now and then, but it will never win one.

Anyways, I salute John Williams for laying the foundations no-one else could - that I believe. But it's not the end of the world that he's gone. I thought Patrick Doyle did a great job, and I would be very content if Nicholas Hooper did the same.

Psh, no one can compose a score for a movie like John Williams can. That's just fact. BRING HIM BACK!!!!!

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While I agree there are too much politics in the academy and John Williams should have more wins to go with his many nominations (You're right, PoA is a masterpiece) I still think it's a huge loss not have him.

Doyle did a good score for GoF, but he didn't do a good job of incorporating Williams' old themes that, in my mind, really define Harry Potter. Hans Zimmer did a very good job of that in Pirates of the Caribbean 2. He was able to add Klaus Badelt's themes and at the same time bring in some new ones of his own and in the end it came out better than Badelt's original score. If Hooper can do something like that for OoTP than I will be slightly mollified.

he is the BEST EVER, he did JAWS, STAR WARS, HARRYP POTTER, i can go on for ever...nooooooo =[

Are you really, really sure that Williams is not composting OotP. For read in an interview with Dan, Rupet, and Emma (I think) that he was comming back for the fifth film. I mean, he did great jobs with movies like Star Wars, Mission IMpossible , JUrassic Park, Super Man etc, but he also did really well with the first three HP movies. I thoight that the soundtrack for GoF was good, just not up to the quality of John Williams.

If it is Hooper, that shows how polatics (or a type of it) can affect movie making. The director just goes and picks his good friend who no body has heard of to do a very high profile movie(s?).

i think he should compose the music for the next movies too, the music for the third movie was awesome!!!

well, if the director has hierd a new composer then i suppose he must be good, but he can never be as good as john williams, i mean he did the music for all three star wars films(3 of the all time greatest blockbusters) and even more movies then that, so if this new guy wants some good respect for OOTP he has alot to live up to.