Ok, I'm sorry about the Sorting Hat comment. I'm not much of a follower of the interviews unless someone tells me about 'em. To defend myself, I didn't say Percy was the Death Eater. I said he would be killed by one after he redeemed himself. But he does have that one quality of Pettigrew's...he wants what's best for him, regardless of who he has to hurt to get it. Pettigrew wanted saftey from Voldemort, so he allied himself with Voldemort to save his hide. Percy is getting more power ( is that what he wants?) and more important in the Ministry of Magic, and he doesn't care that he had to hurt him famliy and friends to get there.

Although I do think that of Percy kicks the bucket, Mrs. Weasly will finally go off the deep end. She's always so overprotective of Arthur, her children and Harry and Hermione that if anything happened to any of them, I think she's lose it and try to get revenge for them...sadly, I think this might lead to her demise. I'm not saying I think she'll definately die in the next book, I'm just saying that if something leads her to snap and seek revenge, she's not coming back alive.

Otaku_Punk

I didn't say that's what you said. I'm just so used to telling a friend of mine that. And I agree, I think he'll die doing something that redems him.
But wow, I don't think Mrs. Weasley will go crazy, and one of the reasons she's so over procetive is because her brothers were in the origanal Order, and they both died.

Percy Weasley is a difficult case if I ever saw one. He definitely seems like a traitor, and I'm sure he had cruel intentions, but are we just seeing another victim of power? Did he get the Prefect position and snowball from there (the Humongous Bighead)?

I just have this odd feeling that he is going to make up for everything in the next book. Maybe he'll see what's going wrong in the Ministry and have a revelation or something...I'm not sure how it will happen, but I'm almost 100% positive that Percy will redeem himself. He's a Weasley, for heaven's sake! He can't be all bad!

I agree, I've has lots of strong feelings that come true. All of them have so far for these books. Anyone wonder what happened to that girlfriend he had?

Penelope Clearwater? Yes, I wonder what she did after school. It almost makes me think that she's working for the ministry as well, but because Percy never mentioned her afterward, that could be wrong.

I do think that Percy will redeem himself, but I think he will die also. I wonder how he will do it though.
I think that Percy is either seeing his girlfriend, but doesn't mention it or that they broke up because of his bigheadness. I could be wrong though.

He never has mentioned her, they could still be together, it's not like he's had a chance to walk into the sceen and say "hey Penelope and me are still together." I wonder is he'll be there at the wedding, like just to see Bill get married, and then leave. Drama, drama, drama.
A lot of people are on board with the '"he'll redeem himself and die" thing.

I don't know if I agree with the whole "Percy will die" thing. I just think he'll come back and ask for forgiveness, then fight for the right side instead of the Ministry. I'm hoping he's at the wedding, but not to make it tense and uncomfortable. Percy was a little pompus, but that can happen to some people with great positions. I also feel sorry for Mrs. Wealsy, but what makes you guys say that she'll go insane? I think she's stronger than that.

Hey all you fellow Gryffindor members!Its great to be back...
I read a few of the comments that were posted and I would like to agree with lizzy_radcliffe on the whole "percy dying" story...I don't think he will die and I am pretty sure he will redeem himselfmas he isn't the type to realize that he was wrong and not actually do something about it...And I can't see how molly weasley will go insane! That just doesn't make sense...She is the one in the household that actually keeps things running normally and is always in control..

I think molly will come to really accept the fact that bill is getting married and I am certain, just like lizzy_radcliffe, that percy wil turn up at the wedding to show that he still wants to belong even thoguh he was a pomous, ignorant person...

I think a true Gryffindor would aslo accept an apology and also want to make an ammends...But some people who get placed into a house might just get in because they wanted to be in that house...

Well, thats me, rambling on once again!
Got to go...

To ere is human, to forgive is divain. The pradagol son returns! lol .
Anyway, I think that Molly is a very strong women, most mothers are, and that she will be able to handle whatever comes at her. I wonder what the wedding will be like.

I think that Percy will show up at the wedding. It may be a bit akward for the weasley family, but if he apologizes to them, then I think that some of the family (well maybe only Mrs. and Mr. Weasley) will forgive him. I think that the others are set on him still being a prat.

I can't believe that Fleur and Bil are getting married... if you think about it, Harry only saw Fleur 2 years back at hogwarts. Bill met her then didn't he?

I don't think that Percy will die. Oh, I just had a thought... What if he redeems himself, join the Order, and is one of the Orders' ministry spies??

I have a BIG question and I don't know if this will sound stupid or not but, here goes. I was wondering why I was sorted into Gryffindor, I mean, what does it mean to be a Gryffindor anyway? If anyone has a comment I'd like to see my question answered.

Thank you! X 10000

~Alchemy Princess (call me Allie)

Hey there everyone! Wow HPGoldsnitch, your idea seems really ambitious and you know what?I agree with you on that... It seems really feasable and I think thats how he will redeem himself so that he can regain trust from his family...He really did act in a pompous manner and I think that his family, well his parents at least, wil come to forgive him.

To try and answer your question allie about why you were placed in Gryffindor...I think you have the qualities that a Gryffindor should have and you act to situations in a manner that a Gryffindor would...I don't know if that answers your, but I tried

Cheers for now...

Oooh, I'll answer you Allie! First, congrats for being sorted into Gryffindor, the best house ever ! Now to your question. (It's not stupid, by the way)

the Sorting Hat says that "You might belong in Gryffindor, Where dwell the brave at heart, Their daring, nerve, and chivalry Set Gryffindors apart" Pretty much means that we're the most daring and courageous souls there ever were. But being brave doesn't mean just willing to run out on an insane suicide trip with no fear, but being able to stand up strong for what we believe in. So, all in all, Gryffindors are the best to be around, if I do say so myself .

I hope that ranting answered your question, Allie...

Thank you so much lizzy_radcliffe and luckyfish, both of your answers were really good and made sense to me Now I get it, and lizzy, i do agree that it is the best house ever!! Thanks again.

~Allie

Hello! I've been sorted into Griffindor so i guess your stuck with me (Everyone normally gasps 'oh NO!' and runs away at this point so i guess i'm off to a good start )

How i got into Griffindor, I can't even tell myself, ah well! Anyway, see you around for now!

WolfSpirit

Hey all you fellow Gryffindors!Hope everyone had an awesome weekend...
Hey Allie...Its my pleasure...Any Gryffindor in need can always just pop a question and we will help in any way possible!

Yeah,I guess all of us in this house show some true qualities that Godrick(bad spelling! )Gryffindor had and I am proud to be in this house!

And by the way!I just want to welcome WolfSpirit to the best house ever! Its great to have you...

Lizzy_Radcliffe, your answer to allies question is probably the ost thorough and correct one!

Well, got to go...
Bye all

Ok, I have seriously been out of the swing of things! But, I am back now. (well at least for a few days because then I am leaving again...) anyway,



I agree. Welcome WolfSpirit! And Gryffindor is the best house ever!!!!!

To answer why all of us got sorted into Gryffindor is because well, I guess that we all show some Gryffindor qualities in us more so than any of the other houses. (Woohoo!)

hihihi yeah, gryffindor is really cool! and imagine you could sit there in the common room! wow!
well, hello to the new gryffindors!

anyone got any ideas what we could discuss?
hmmm, i can't think of anything...

but about the percy, molly-thingy: i think mrs. weasley could get over it IF he died. i don't think she would go insane! and someone said that a true gryffindor would accept an apology! that's so true, i think!

Hello everyone!it's fantastic to be in Gryffindor Honesly I didn' t think that I'll be sorted here...I mean I hoped it and now I'm here!...well it's simply fantastic

Hello, WolfSpirit! Well, everyone runs away at te sight of me, too, so you and I should get along great I would also like to give a warm greetings to all new Gryffindors, and tell you guys that you're all so lucky to be like us!

I am so excited! I just found out that I got sorted into Gryffindor! As soon as I heard I kinda did a little dance I was affraid that I was going to be in Hufflepuff or something, but I'm a Gryffindor. Just saying that makes me feel good

Yes I know that sounds cheesy, but I never really thought I was actually all that brave, but now that I think of it, I kind of am. YAY! Ok I have to calm down.

I do think that percy can't possibly redeem himself, since he betrayed his own family really deeply. It's sorta like his episode of oprah where this kid got abused by his mom's husband, and after he got older she got married to him again. The phsycaitrist said that he should just dismiss her as his mother, just like the weasleys should dismiss him as their son.

Thats all , Folks!

Yes, but Percy never beat anyone. I believe in redemtion, but then again it comes with the terrority of faith I have chosen, I'm Catholic. And what's wrong with Hufflepuff?

I didn't say there was anything wrong with hufflepuff, but I just like gryffindor better. I would have been happy in any house. Back to the Percy thing,

He didn't beat anyone, that's true, but in the magical world, being a traitor is still very bad. I couldn't imagine being able to redeem myself if I was in Percy's situation. I don't know, I just think if you do something that bad, you sort of have to move on with your life.

I dont think that Percy will be able to redeem himself. He didnt apoligise when they realized that Voldermort actually did return to the open so i dont think that the family will ever be able to let percy be forgiven.

But yet again... we dont know how Dumbledore's death has made everyone feel! So who knows...

well, i think percy would show real strenght if he chose to apologise!
i don't think his betrayal was that deep and he really should redeem himself, i mean -guys, it's not as difficult as for peter pettigrew!
and if the weasleys just all come together and say 'all right, we'll give him a chance! let's start again', then i think it would be possible that he's again accepted. still, they wouldn't like him that much, but he could help the order! percy has to be strong and see that he was wrong. now he has to deal with it, if he just looks over it he will always be sorry and have a bad conscience!
well, i still think he'll redeem himself, and then die... we read about him, how nobody (well, his mother...) likes him and he still works for the order and then he dies for them and everyone is sorry, but then it's too late... wouldn't that be sad?! lol well... just a little bit!

ps: and welcome to gryffindor, lucky ducky!

I agree with lucky_duck. The Weasleys should just drop them as there son (nice Oprah example, I love Oprah). After all, why would they want a traitor in the family, or want to have the burden in their hearts that there son, or brother is a traitor?

I don't think that Percy can be called a traitor. I was really surprised how blind he was to everything except his career, but all that can be explained.

First, he is the third son in a large family and he badly wants to make a name for himself. His elder brothers have good careers but nothing spectacular, and his father is making very light of being a laughing-stock to the likes of Fudge and Malfoy, relegated to a cupboard of an office and a dead-end career. Percy was embarrassed by the way his father was treated and by his father's lack of ambition. Percy was smart. He was determined to do better than his dad and make the name of Weaseley an important name again.

It hurt him that the rest of his family didn't seem to care. It hurt him that they all seemed to believe Harry rather than Fudge. Percy never believed that Voldemort was back, the only thing that he saw was how his family made himself ridiculous by believing Harry. So he turned away from them.
That's pretty bad and stupid for such a smart boy, but it can happen when you are young and have golden opportunities ahead of you.
Life isn't just about making the choice between what is right and what is easy. It is also the choice between what is right and what is rewarding.

I would have been more worried about Percy if he had been sorted into Ravenclaw instead of Gryffindor. He must have some qualities in him that will make him see what the right choices are, or at least want to make the right choices -- or else he would have been definitely better at home in Ravenclaw.

What should the Weaseleys do? It's up to Percy to make the first move back to his family, and then they should forgive him. It's the people who don't get second chances that end up choosing for Evil.

Heya all my buddies! I am a newbie, straight from the sotring hat baby! Please go easy on me, i've only just begun reading harry Potter so if im behind you guyses, sorry! I did go and see the last film though (i know im slow, im slow) im reading the 3rd book at the moment, so im just here to say howdy! Sorry for the random post, i just wanted to be part of it!
Tigzie x

hello Tigzie!!! cool you're in gryffindor!

well, i've said my opinion about percy and i have to agree with everything Bumblebee said!
i also don't see him as such a bad traitor!


ps: has anyone really said hello to Arya? well, i haven't but i want you to know that you're welcome!

Percy is not a Death Eater. He didn't chose to go off and kill and torture in the name of power. I agree with Bumblebee, I believe Percy will say he's sorry. And he is very book smart, it's never easy for people from poor households to reach beyond them, espically if you have a vocie like Malfoy's in your ear.

OK you guys, I've been re-reading HPB, and I realized something that i forgot. It sorta changes some things I said.

In HBP, on christmas day, Percy comes to the Burrow to say happy christmas (well, he is forced to but doesn't seem to hate everybody, just his his brothers) and Molly is so happy and is very delighted to see him, while everyone basically looks at him like he is a very annoying house elf that won't shut up. I think this means that he will try to say sorry, but only Molly will accept his apollogy.

well, if percy actually says sorry i think his father would also accept it! he's just not prepared to face percy when he hasn't said anything yet. remember -percy was ahm, well...not nice to his father and i think if percy said -honesty- sorry, arthur would also accept it, not only mrs. weasley.
and i think they would talk to their children about it -without percy- and would tell thm to at least try to be nice to him...
well, think they still would be rude and not really nice, but that's percy's fault... and theirs also... it would be for their own good if they accepted the apology, they need everyone in the battly, they have to work together and they are 'as strong as they are united'!!
but i still think percy will die and then his brothers will be sorry!

I have to say that rainyday has a point there about percy being truly honest by saying that he is sorry about what he has put his family through.And that his father would forgive him if he did that.I don't think that Mr and Mrs Weasley are the type of people to almost disown their son and not forgive people as i am sure they believe that people make mistakes...
And I agree with Amyrat about Percy not being a death eater and I don't think that he would ever get to that stage where he is torturing and killing people cos he was brought up on strong morals and he isn't dumb,even though he is really vain...I think he will ask for forgiveness and he will definitely be willing to help in anyway possible to prove to his family that he is sorry and he wants to make ammends with everyone.
I also have to add that his younger brothers won't be so keen on forgiving him as they believe nlood is thicker than water and he should have believed them and Harry.In the end they will have to show that they are wanting to accept that he made a mistake and hopefully forgive him.Like Amyrat said, Percy is very book smart and I think he has definitely learned his lesson...

Hello... I'm a new gryffindor..Sorry for the one liner just wanted to get my "hello" in

[Edited due to poor English]

Please everyone, call me Ellen.
I agree with rainyDay and luckyfish, that if Percy really means it, Athur will forgive his thrid born. And also that, the kids, expecially the twins, will be hard on him. I just hope that Percy gets to see Bill get married, it's to sad for him not to. Because I think he will die as well.
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Hello everyone.
In my opinion Arthur'll forgive Percy, I think he has already done it to the bottom but now he is waiting for Percy' s apologies ...he is always his son anyway

However I don't think Percy is a death eater. In my opinion he isn't able to kill or torture someone and then he is too correct and devoted to rules to do something out of law and against the ministry of magic.

Hi everyone, I've just been sorted into Griffindor and I thought I'd just pop in to say hello and introduce myself. Everyone so far has been really nice and very welcoming, I'm looking forward to posting on this site

Welcome Catherine to the house. Arya, I agree with you. You know, a friend of mine loved to entertain the idea that Percy was a DE, but as Sirius said "the world isn't spilt up into good people and death eaters."
On to new topic, I think, what to you think made Sirius so differnt than the rest of his family?

Well Amyrat, probably Sirius was different than the rest of his family because he had right friendships

I think that all became when he was sorted in Gryffindor, instead Slytherin( like whole his family) and so he had different ideas than them. In his history Sirius says that his family doesn't approve him because he was in Gryffindor and James Potter was his best friend.
In fact, for this Sirius every summer went to James's home (like Harry and Ron).
So I think Sirius was so different because he grew up with different ideals and with who was basically good.

Bonjour, everyone I'm the new addition to the House of Gryffindor, so I decided to check out this thread =) I see you are talking abour Percy and Sirius here.. Hope you don't mind if I join the converstaion

So, Percy.. Personally, I think Mrs. Weasly will forgive him even before he can say "sorry," if he just shows up. (I am referring to HBP, when Percy came to the Burrow for Christmas) It might take a while for Mr. Weasley to do the same, though, but in the end, he is too much of a kind person to not let Percy back into the family. As for the kids, I agree with the messages posted above by several people, they will not be so fast to accept their brother's apologies. Bill might; he does not appear to be the person to hold long grudges. But I'm pretty sure the Weasley twins will play a few gruesome pranks on Percy before they will forgive him. I'm not even sure they will completely forgive him, actually.
But then again, Percy has to say he is sorry first, before all of this can happen. And he is a person who doesn't like to admit his mistakes, so I think he will not apologize until it is absolutely unavoidable.

The question on Sirius is harder.. What Arya said sound quite convincing, only why was Sirius directed to Gryffindor in the first place? He didn't know James or Lupin before the sorting.. There had to be something profoundly different in him already, before his friends came into play. I guess he just recieved a wrong (from the perspective of the Blacks) genes =) After all, the same thing happened many times before. If I remember correctly, there were a lot of holes in that tapestry of the Black family tree.

bluezz, I very much agree with both of your points, Percy has to actaully say he's sorry and mean it, and the twins might never forgive him. And Sirius could of seen through the lies of his family since he was little, I suppose it could of happened by accident.

Why was Sirius in Gryffindor while all the rest of his family was in Slytherin? -- I agree with Amyrat151 that he saw through the lies of his family, in other words, that he did not share his family's beliefs and dared to have his own. He must have been profoundly unhappy before he came to Hogwarts, forced into a mold that didn't suit him and stubbornly refusing to accept it. I can totally understand that, it sounds like my own childhood! It is very hard to go against a whole family. The Sorting Hat would have seen that instantly, and it would have seen where his true heart was: with the values that placed him squarely in Gryffindor.

Hey guys!I realise that I have already said this before, but if you recall in the second movie, Dumbledore said that it was harry who chose to be in Gryffindor and so he was placed there.I think that it seems really believable as the sorting hat just gave advice and it was the persons choice as to which house they wanted to be in...
I am not too sure but thats my theory and thats why percy and sirius ended up in Gryffindor.But I also think that sirius asn't like his family and had a mind of his own and had differnt characteristics..

I can also see why sirius was placed in Gryffindor..He has the true qualities that make a Gryffindor..
Well, thats what I think

Ok, posting after you luckyfish! lol

Anyway, I think that Sirius was placed in Gryffindor because one, he doesn't have the heart or attitude that the rest of his family does. He believes that all wizards should be treated the same no matter what his bloodline. Unlike the Blacks, who in my opinion are filthy scum along with the Malfoys. lol Both familys think themselves higher than the rest of the world.

I think that in the 7th book when and if Percy appears again, we will see truly why he was placed in Gryffindor.

ok well got to go,
~snitch

Hey HPGoldsnitch!My turn to post after you!

I totally agree with you that sirius wasn't like his family and he had a mind of his own.He didn't have that cold, thoughtless heart that the rest of his family and ancestors had.I am positive that it must have been a shock for his family when they found out that he wasn't in Slytherin! That showed them...

I also think that the truth will be revealed in the 7th book just like you said, Snitch
I firmly believe that percy and sirius were placed in Gryfindor as they had something in them that said that they should be in Gryffindor.I also think that they felt that they should be in that house...

But, the mind blowing conspiracy will all be revealed in the last book..I hope..
I have to say that I am glad that sirius was placed in Grffindor as it proves a point and I couldn't imagine him in another house.

Hey everybody! I'm sorry I haven't been posting in a long time, I just got back from the beach yesterday. I think Sirius is different because he probably wasn't very "fond" of his family members, and wanted to be an individual outside his family. that is probably why he became a Gryffindor, since it is basically the opposite of Slytherin.

I also agree with luckyfish that he was probably naturally different.

Anyways, I'm glad to be back!

Well, I think that Sirius was placed in Gryffindor because he didn't believe the kind of things the rest of his family believed.

Anyway, I hope that Percy doesn't die, because he needs to prove to everyone how he can behave after being forgiven by his parents. He was placed in Gryffindor for a reason.

Hey everyone, I was just sorted into Gryffindor and I thought I'd check out this thread! I hope no one minds me butting into the conversation.

I think that Sirius was sorted into Gryffindor because, like many before me have said, he was against what his family believed. He didn't believe in the whole 'pureblood' concept (I hope that makes sense, I couldn't find the right wording), he believed in what is right. The rest of his family were Voldemort supporters and possessed the qualities that landed them in Slytherin, while Sirius was perfect for Gryffindor. He was brave, loyal, smart etc., he had the qualities that a Gryffindor has and that's why he was put in Gryffindor.

I also think that the sorting hat has a way of knowing things that it doesn't say, things that influence its decision. It's hard to explain, but I think it's the reason why Hermione was put in Gryffindor when, at the time, she was perfect for Ravenclaw. Kind of like a destiny thing. The hat put Sirius in Gryffindor because he needed to be friends with James, Remus, and Peter so that everything could work out in then end. I don't know, it makes sense in my own head.