Well, my take on it.. First of all, Snape definitely wouldn't treat Harry much differently, because he still holds a grudge against James. It would be a dilemma for him, though, since he wouldn't want to take points away from his own house. But I'm pretty sure Snape would find another, more cruel way to torture Harry.
Next, Quidditch. This is a thing Harry truly loves, and I am confident that he would play eventually, but not in his first year.

I'll write the rest of my thoughts tomorrow. I'm too tired right now and I can't think..

Oh, graco27.. Hello there and welcome the Gryffindor Thread! I see you are new here. Be careful about one liners. They are not allowed at this forum, so try to elaborate more

Wow, I'm so relieved that I didn't miss more, I had to fly home. For the Harry in Slytherin, I think that he and Malfoy would have become friends. One of the reasons he chose not to be in Slytherin was because he met Malfoy and saw how he acted and if that appealed to him, which is the only way I think he could have been placed in Slytherin, then they would have probably become friends, I don't believe he would have been friends with Hermione or Ron. He wouldn't have necessarily become Malfoy-ish, but being placed in Slytherin would have to have some affect on him and he would need friends in his own house. Malfoy wanted to be his friend so he may have accepted his friendship.

For Quidditch, I think he still would have played because he loves it so much, but it would have taken him longer to make the team because he wouldn't have defended Neville, but he would have figured it out eventually.

As for Snape, I agree with bluezz. He wouldn't have wanted to take points from his own house, and I don't think he would, but the James dilema would have gotten to him. He would figure out some other way to torture Harry, even if it was justl making fun of his ability in potions.

Tigzie- I'll read your fan fiction as soon as I have time (probably tomorrow).

This is a really cool topic whoever bought it up!!
I recon that Draco & Harry would be mates and cause really bad havoc, just like James and his mates when they were at school, but Harry would probably go against him if he found out about the Death eater thing. He probably would still play quidditch, i agree with bluezz' point

Thanks a lot HP_RULES!

teehee. I like it on here

If Harry was sorted into Slytherin, it would have affected him in some way. The sorting hat said that Slytherin would be his way to greatness. He definitately wouldn't be friends with Ron and Hermione, he might even make fun of them every once in awhile(if he does become Malfoy-ish). We would have a different trio of friends. It would be Harry, Draco and Pansy! I know for sure that Harry would play Quidditch because it's in his blood.

*pretty in punk*

I love *pretty in punk*’s idea of the ‘Silver Trio’ of Harry/Draco/Pansy! Snape wouldn’t pull points off his house but I bet he’d hold Harry back a year or two. Now if Harry was in Slytherin I wonder if Dumbledore would’ve liked him as much. Or Hagrid for that matter.

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Hello there fellow Gryffindors!

I've been reading this thread for a while now and I've got a lot of thoughts about a few of the most resent topics you've discussed but I think I'll just have a few words about the latest one.

This whole Harry in Slytherin -thing is really turning my stomach upside down. The sorting hat did consider putting Harry in Slytherin but Harry him self asked not to be put there. So in order to get Harry in Slytherin he'd have to liked the way Malfoy acted in Diagon alley and in the train and also Harry would not have appreciated the Weasleys help in getting to the platform 9 3/4, in other words Harry would have to be a totally different sort of person and we would not be reading about him. No one (in their right mind) would write about such a brat, now would they..
But to answer the original question, yes I think that Harry and Draco would be friends and I suppose Harry would play Quidditch, after all he would still be James's son. And what comes to Snape's and Harry's relationship, I think that Snape would have thought that Harry is the great evil wizard he was rumored to be after what happend the night James and Lily (and almost dear old Voldy) died.

Oh my, I am being rather many-worded tonight. Maybe we'll soon have another topic to discuss here. Hopefully it's not one I have this much to say about...

sinister, if things went the way they did, Harry obviously wouldn't have ended up in Slytherin. But we are just using out imagination here - what if despite all it did happen.

pretty in punk, I really don't know about the Harry/Malfoy/Pansy trio. I believe Harry disliked Draco even before the sorting ceremony began. Maybe they wouldn't be that great of rivals if Harry ended up in Slytherin, but they wouldn't be best friends. On the other hand, it could create more tension, since the two would have to live in the same dorm, eat at the same table - they would probably want to play the "who's a better Slytherin?" game.
As for Ron and Hermione.. I'm afraid there is little chance that they would become Harry's best friends. After all, if Harry would be in Slytherin, he wouldn't be able to sit at the table with them at breakfast and during classes, or sleep in the same room as Ron.

I don't know about Harry/Malfoy/Pansy that would be really weird. and i just stopped in to say hell to the greatest Gryffindors ever. and Harry Did hate Draco before the sorting because Draco made fun of Ron Weasley, and Harry Like Ron in a friend way. and draco just seemed mean.

Well I dont really like to think about this. Kinda scray thinking of Harry and Draco as friends, ew. And as for them not being friends, just not good to think about.

I don't think Harry and Draco would be friends. I mean, Harry met Ron in the train, so they became friend before the sorting ceremony. Besides before it Malfoy insulted Ron and his family and Harry didn't like that.
But we must say that if Harry had had a personality like Slytherin he wouln't allow Ron stayed with him in the train.

Yes, I reallised that this was just "what if"-confersation, but that was my whole point. Propably I didn't make my point quite as well as I thought

What I meant to say was that in order for Harry to end up in Slytherin he would have not wanted so desperately to not be sorted there. And for him not to want to go to Slytherin would also mean that he'd have not made friends with Ron on the train and so he might have felt so sort of need to bond with another wizard and since Malfoy offered his friendship, I suppose they would have been friends for a while.
What I forgot to meantion was that I however don't think that their friendship would have lasted long. I don't think Harry would have enjoyed death eaters' sons company for long and would have sought more appropriate company for him self. And like bluezz said I too believe they would have started to compete in everything.

I really enjoy reading all the conversations that have been going on in here and hope there will be lots more interesting topics to discuss.

I guess I didn't explain myself clearly the first time.
Well, I was just having a bit of fun with our "what if" conversation. For Harry to go to Slytherin he would have liked Malfoy and disliked the Weaslys like sinister said. I should have said that in my other post, but luckily Harry isn't like that.
Bluezz, aren't all boys competitive(sp?, sorry I'm the worst speller ever) ? My little brother and his friend always fight over who is better at what and things like that. All the boys I have met are competitive.

*pretty in punk*

Heya guys! I've already posted in the Harry in Slytherin convo and i have nothing new to say, soo...
I'm going away for a couple of days so wont be online, so everyone have a good time and i'll see you guyses later!!

byee! Tigz xxxxx

True. But Harry isn't competing with Ron that much. Or at least he doesn't want to. But there would be tension between Harry and Draco, so the competition there would be much worse.

I agree with bluezz..I don't think that ron and harry are exactly competitive,but at times ron seems to want to be better than harry..I don't know if I am making this up or not ...Oh well....I do think that malfoy is a really competitive person and if harry was in slytherin and had that type of personality he would be in competition with malfoy constantly...

First of all I think it's kinda silly to think "what if" this and that had happend, what would be different.. I can't even think Harry being in Slytherin ;S that's just so.. gosh.. I can't even make up a word to finnish that sentence.. anyways..

hi, i have just be sorted

p.s. i hate the idea of harry being in slytherin

I think it is safe to say that Harry was always intended for Gryffindor. He is the embodiment of what Godric himself stood for.
While yes, the Sorting Hat originally intended upon placing him in Slytherin is just to show example that 1) he has a deep connection to Voldemort, heir of Slytherin. and 2) it shows a clear cut example of Dumbledore's lesson of how our choices affect who we are and what we become in life.

Hp_book_reader, welcome to Gryffindor! I would, however, like to ask that you elaborate more in your posts for future reference. We want to hear why you don't like the idea of Harry ever being sorted into Slytherin, not to mention short posts and one-liners hinder discussion.

Crickey are we still on this topic? Gone on for a long while...Anyway, I agree with you, Harry was destined for Gryffindor, even if he was sorted as a Slytherin he probably would be a Gryffindor, like always in their common room and always hanging out with all the Gryffindors and always sneaking to the classes with Gryffindors.

I say new topic. I do not have one off the top of my head at the moment but maybe you guys.. girls.. Can think of one? What say we start a new one?

Aww, guys, you ruin everything =)) Can't you turn on your imaginations and pretend something impossible happened? (that was said in a joking manner, no offense to anyone)

But I agree, we need a new topic. I'll have to think about it. I'll get back to you
Um.. How about this - just until someone thinks of a very interesting question - if Harry decides to try to be an animagus, what do you think he will turn into?

I think that's a great question, though I have no idea what Harry would turn into if he was an animagus. Wow, you always have a question on hand. I just really wanted to post and I haven't been able to, so I guess he might turn into a....ok I really don't know. I'll think about and get back to you....use some of my imagination

How can you decide to be one? I never really got that part? How do you? And uhhh, I think he'd be somewhat close to a Stag or something.

That was a very interesting question indeed

I thought of the Stag at first aswell but then I started to think if he truly is a Gryffindor with all his being, he might turn into a lion. Then there is the fact that he just loves flying and is "Dumbledore's man through and through" he might turn into a phoenix.
I just have a feeling he'd be (or a need for him to be) something spectacular

Well, from the books we have learned that you can decide to learn to become an Animagus. That is what James, Sirius and Peter decided when they found out that Remus was a werewolf and that if they were animals, they could be with him during his full moon phase. It was Remus' condition that prompted them to do this, not any particular talent of their own.

McGonagall said (probably at the time she first found out that James, Sirius and Peter had all succeeded to become Animagi in secret) that it was a difficult and dangerous magic. Sirius said to Harry that it took them years (at least three) and that Peter was slowest to learn it. Given that Peter wasn't a brilliant student, it seems that anyone could learn to do it if they were dedicated enough. Remus was quite touched that they had done it for him.

So, if Harry gets it into his head to become an Animagus, he could do it. It's improbable, though; he has no spare time that can be dedicated to such a task. In the upcoming year he has to find the Horcruxes and destroy them, find Voldemort and vanquish him, and somehow get his N.E.W.T.S. so that he can start his studies to become an Auror.

A lot of people said stag, but that's just because James became a stag -- Harry is not like James, as Remus pointed out to Sirius: "James would have thought it fun" but Harry has different motives to do what he does. He wouldn't be a lion either: I don't see the combination of brashness, physical strength and confidence that makes lion so powerful. I've always believed that Harry would become a phoenix -- carry enormous burdens comes to mind, and his compassion is growing with his understanding so it won't belong before his tears have healing power ... it is not through brute force that Harry achieved his victories, but through being selfless.

For some reason, I doubt that Harry will choose to become an Animangus ... don't ask why I think this because I don't know! But if he indeed DOES want to do so, I agree with Bumblebee that a Pheonix sounds like something Harry would be interested in him. But I think that him becoming a stag is possible. It's true that he is not completely like James but look at his patronus, it's a stag isn't it? I think that his top two would probably be Stag or Pheonix.

I don't agree that anyone can become an animagus with enough dedication. I think that the only reason Peter was able to do it was because he had brillant friends that helped him, not because of his determination. I'm sure that is Harry worked with Hermione he could get it given that he had a few years, but he really doesn't have the time and it's improbabble that he would want to do it, but it's fun to think about!

When I was first thinking about what his animagus would be I thought about a stag, but that's what his dad was, not him. As much as he looks like him, Harry isn't his dad so I don't think he would become a stag. Yes his Patronus takes that form, but can your animagus and Patronus be the same thing? I don't think he would be a lion either. There are plenty of people as Gryffindory as Harry and they didn't become a lion. I just couldn't see him turning into a lion. I like the whole pheonix idea though. I'm still not 100% sure that's what he would become, but I can't think of anything better.



This is brillant! With that kind of an explanation I'm seeing the Harry turning into a pheonix possible.

I just have a quick question, can you decide what animal you're going to become? I don't mean fully, but Peter learned to turn into a rat because it was small enough to hit the notch on the tree and James and Sirius both turned into big animals to they could keep a werewolf in check, so do they have any control?

I think that someone in the books said that you can't. The form that you take has to suit your temperament; it is a reflection of yourself.

Peter Pettigrew just happened to be become a rat. The small size was useful, but I doubt that he chose that shape.

I believe it was JKR who said in one of her interviews that one cannot chose which animagus to turn into. Peter being able to become a rat was just a useful conicidence.

Now, Harry's animagus. I don't think it will be a phoenix. Maybe this isn't a legit connection, but I always associate a phoenix with Dumbledore (his patronus is a phoenix), and Harry is nothing like him. He is more emotional, arrogant, and is nearly not as wise. So no, I don't think it will be a phoenix. However, I imagine it will be some kind of bird, since Harry truly loves to fly. And I suppose it will be very agile, because Harry often had to escape near death situations by dodging the curses, etc. I can't pin-point an animal right now, but I'll think about it some more and hopefully will be able to..

I know that they can't chose the animal that they become, I was just wondering if they had any control of it what-so-ever? I mean, it worked out so perfectly, that Peter became a small animal that could hit the notch and James and Sirus became large animals that could keep a werewolf at bay. I just thought that maybe Peter was trying to become a small animal, or maybe that was all he could manage since he wasn't very good at magic. I don't know, I was just wondering.

About the Harry's Patronus, in writingfreak's fan fiction he had Harry become a falcon, I think that suits him pretty well. I always associate pheonixes with Dumbledore too, but I see how it is possible for Harry too.

Peter became a rat because he was a rat in real life, figuratevily speaking, of course.
Yes, it worked out well for the Marauders, but I don't think they planned it to be that way. All they originally wanted is to turn into animals so they could keep Lupin company during his transformations. I'm sure they could've found another way of shutting off the Whomping Willow or keeping Lupin away from people.

Hello everybody, I'm back!

About Harry's animagus, I think that is will be a hippogriff. Yes, a hippogriff. They are very loyal, have very srong emotions, and basically have all or most of the traits that Harry has.

I don't have much more to say, except that I noticed a few new things about the forum layout and I like them! Good job!

-Lucky

I thought of a hippogriff also. They are loyal, as lucky said, but they are only loyal to those they trust. Generally, they are sceptical birds - one has to bow to a hippogriff and gain its trust before he can tought it or even come closer. Harry is somewhat like that, too. After all that he has been through he does not trust people easily. (Look at him and Snape) However, he is very loyal and protective of his friends.

I think that Harry could be an eagle too.
He can fly perfectly and has a great sight too ( you see his abilities in Quiddich).
Besides eagles are very loyal and everything to defend what is them own, for example their babies ( you are in serious truoble if you touch eagle's eggs or little eagles).
If you notice Harry has very similar behaviours when someone speaks about his friends or his parents. What do you think?

Hi there guys...I don't want to look like some idiot or anything cos I havn't been on for a while so I don't really know whats going on to be honest.I just read a few of the posts above,so I am gonna give my opinion...

I think that harry's animagus might be a hippogriff like some of you said cos harry is loyal just like them.I also think that it could also be a phoenix or even a cheetah!I think a cheetah cos if you think about it cheetahs are brave,they are individuals and look after themselves(like harry) and they have a livelyness about them.... Just a thought...He doesn't necessarily have to be an air creature.What kind of land animals do you think his animagus could be?

Hiya Luckyfish!

I couldn't help but notice a bit of netspeak in your posts. "Cos" should be "because." Not everyone on VTM speaks/reads/writes English natively, and netspeak can make it a bit harder to translate. Thanks!

~Cori

Well I still havent made up my mind what Harry would be? What does he like? What animal is he most like? What is he most interested? THOSE, THOSE!! Are the questions..

I think that Harry's animagus would be something like a phoenix or an eagle or a hippogriff, like some of the others have said. Personally, I like the idea of him becoming a phoenix, because he was close to Dumbledore, and Dumbledore had a phoenix, and the phoenix itself is loyal and strong. I just thought that it'd be cool if he became a phoenix. Just a thought.

Just to throw around my own thoughts, I do like the idea of Harry's animagus being a phoenix for the wonderfully expressed reasons Bumblebee suggested. However, (this may be completely off, but I'll say it anyway) what about a dragon? We know dragon's hide is terribly strong, and only a privileged few have been able to witness Harry's more vulnerable side. Not to mention a dragon's blood has magical properties (and the books express just how important Harry's blood is). And they can be horribly volatile (again, we've seen Harry explode on a few occasions). It's probably not the most logical animagus, seeing Dragon's are not tame, and extremely dangerous, but they do have some similarities to Harry.... Just food for thought...

I think a phoenix is a very possible animagus for Harry, but for some reason I keep thinking that he could be a lion. I mean they are brave and strong, plus the Gryffindor animal, and he proved himself to be a true Gryffindor by pulling out Godric Gryffindor's sword out of the sorting hat, so I can see him becoming a lion. I don't know...just a possibility.

Dragon isn't such a bad guess, Corijp. It's unusual but you gave good reasons: "Volatile" indeed, tough hide, strength ... but what about that other predominant trait in Harry's character, compassion? That's not like a dragon at all. The more I think about it, the more certain I am that the only animal he could become would be a phoenix -- perhaps in due course, when he has grown up a bit and if he takes a fancy to learning how to shift his shape.

Hey guys...Sure thing Corijp, I will type in full! Didn't really think it mattered....Anywho...I got to agree with Bumblebe on this one because she has a good point about if harry were to grow up a bit more he would have a definite animagus in the making..Like a phoenix or hippogriff but at certain points you don't really know what animagus he would have as he has such a comlex personality and all that...

I think of myself most like Harry Potter. I like harry tend to do things right off the bat without thinking I tend to be a little overf courageous if you can call it that. But I am also true to my friends without anything held out.

Ok now that we all got our opinions in, well atleast most of us. Lets start a new question to keep going.. been unable to post because I got nothin' else to say, So lets start a new one? What say?

Hello my fellow Gryffindorians! I am searching for the person who made the banner that I copied into my signature. I forgot who made the banner, the information got lost in the copying frenzy that followed its posting.

I'd like to get in touch because unfortunately the motto contains errors. This was recently pointed out to me by Capricorn in another thread (thanks Capri, if you are reading this!)

The correct text of the motto should be : ab leone fidelis, virtus et aequitas.

Sorry that I didn't get it right before all those wonderful banners were created. Now I would really like to get the corrected text into my signature banner ...

Alright, guys, I here are the new banners:


(with equal delay on both latin and english parts)


(with shorter delay on the english)

I also deleted the files with previous sigs, so nobody will walk around with incorrect mottos

As for the new question, you'll have to wait on that. My brain is too dead at the moment, I don't know if I'll be able to come up with a decent issue. But you can try to make up a question

I must be the thickest nerd of all times... I seem to be having a lot of trouble with getting the banner into my signature.
This propably isn't the right place to ask but could someone a bit wiser lend a helping hand here? How do I get our mottobanner on my signature?

Thanks, Bluezz!

Sinister ... take these steps:

Step 1. Open the link to the banner.
Step 2. Right-mouse-click on the picture and select "Copy".
Step 3. Close the link to the picture and open your Control Center -- the place where your personal information is. You can get there by clicking on My Controls or by clicking on your name.
Step 4. Choose Edit my signature and position the cursor on the place where you want the new banner to be inserted.
Step 5. Right-mouse-click and select Paste.
Step 6. Save your new signature.

Thanks a million Bublebee! Though I just don't seem to be able to copy only the picture. I'm at a complete loss as to where I went wrong I did everything as you instructed (I mean even before) but the only thing I manage to copy is the address of the picture, not the picture it self.

I think I'll just have to ask my better half (at least in computer related issues) to copy the banner for me. He's not going to let me off easy though, He'll propably look something like this and I'll just have to live with it... He's allways teasing me for reading childrens books as it is. He'll have a field day with this

Hey, could that be our new topic? How people react when you tell them you're into HP? Do you dare to tell people you're obsessed? I know there is a similar topic in the lounge allready but this is just a suggestion. Feel free to overlook it