hey guys!
i'm at home for a few days, so i thought i'd 'see' my fellow gryffindors again

i see that you have cool banners! wow! i'm not taking latin at school, so it's good, it also shows that in english!

well, about harry's animagus... a phoenis is a very good suggestion, i think... harry likes flying, he's faithful, he's strong -he's vulnerable but can get over the pain, like a phoenix is reborn from it's ashes... well, i coudn't really think of an other animal that would be like harry... he just doen't seem to be like a dragon, -to me, anyway... and a lion... hm, well, i think these animals are too majestic too big, for me just not like harry.

oh, and about telling people i'm hp-obsessed i dunno... some know, others don't.
with some people i could talk about hp and go on and on and on... but i don't talk about it with everybody lol my mom also likes it, and some of my friends, and my best friend's granny... *shrugs* i don't think it's embarrassing.

oh, anyway, just back here and again rambling on and on, so i'll rather stop now

Sinister, here are the links for the two banners:
1) http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/blu...r/gryff_new.gif
2) http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/blu...yff_new_del.gif

Just put one of those in the img brackets -- -- and insert it into your sig

As for the topic you suggested, I think it'll make a fun discussion. So have at it, Gryffindors Tell us about your obsession and how you friends and relatives react to it.

hi, may i ask you guy what you are talking about . but at first i thought i will just read the whole thread and see, but by page 17 i thought i was about to die (not because they were bad topics it just got very tiring) so know i decided i would just ask and go on from there

hp_book_reader, gosh, you didn't have to read the whole thread =)) You can just read the last few posts to figure out what we are talking about Right now the topic is - How do others react to your "obsession" with HP?

Not having my best day ever... I had a dentist appointment and she operated on one of my wisdomtooths, actually she took it out. So now my whole face (weel mostly just the right side) feels like she had thown a cruciatus all over it

Anyway, I'm not the kind of person who can lie down all day and I wanted to come and check if there was something interesting going on here. I contributed only my negative feedback last time and I thought it would be appropriate for me to elaborate a bit on the positive side aswell... I found out not too long ago that one of my best friends is also a HP-addict and we have ever since discussed the Hpworld every time we meet. As grownups there is so much other stuff in one's life that there doesn't seem to be much left for friends. Any way, she is propably the only friend I have in real life that I can talk about HP.

Outs! Now the anesthetics are wearing out and the pain is coming. I think I'll go lie down afterall.. See you guys later again

I'm not sure if this has already been discussed on the forums but anyways..
You all remember that Slughorn had a "talent of finding a talent" and the club where he invited all those people he thought will someday do something great or success in something etc. So.. Ginny was invited to that club wasn't she? ;o So what do you think? Will Ginny do something great, get an important job or something like that and what could that thing be? Just a silly thought..

ginny... i think that she will end up being extremely taleted, and a lot of help to harry and the order. she could kick some serious dearth-eater butt

do you think that ginny will go back to hoqwarts?

I think Ginny's heading back to Hogwarts just like I think Harry and the rest of the group will. Like it or not, JKR likes Ginny and will have her play an important role in the final book. She has said she believes Ginny to be very much Harry's equal. I just hope she shows more character and talent than simply perfecting the bat-bogey curse.

im almost certain ginny will go back to hogwarts. think that she is a year younger than the trio. i think she'll help hermione, ron and harry with the horcruxes BUT i think she will return to hogwarts. she will need to sign up for her N.E.W.T. courses etc.
personally. i think ginny will become an auror. she's a very talented witch.

Reading a crazy fanfic the other day.. Possibly Harry a Lycon? (A man who elects to turn into a werewolf) Ginny maybe will get the same talent as Harry, not as good but as an equal as said before. Maybe they'll get married, which is most likely in the epilogue if Harry is still alive. I dont know, I like to worry about these things. Its fun, until the 7th book comes atleast.

Hey guys

yep, i recon Ginny will go back to Hogwarts, theres too many storylines that are available when she's there.

Ah. i got rejected for the Duelling Club. Ah well.

Hope everyones alright today!

I think Ginny is just an all-around talented person. Whatever she wants to do, she can do it much easier than most people. I doubt that she will do something "great" (she would be stealing Harry's spotlight), but as someone said already, I think she will go on to become an auror and help defeat many evil wizards. Personally, I can't picture her at any other job.

Will she go back to Hogwarts? If it opens, yes. The trio will go to search for the horcruxes, and she will go back to Hogwarts, since Harry does not want her to get hurt. But then again, she rarely follows the rule, so she might not stay in school for long.

Tigzie, haven't seen you here in a while =) Sorry to hear about Dueling Club, but you can reapply later, can't you?

i think that hoqwarts will reopen. i dont think that there will be as much students as before, i think it will reopen none the less.

I think everyone will end up going, yes, except for the trio, and Ginny being the badgirl she is, will find a way to find Harry and go with him. Because, thats what she does.

i agree with spencer potter because first of all harry said he is not going to hogwarts if it reopens and then i don't think ron and hermione will go back to the school and i think ginny will come with them she will go with ron and hermione and harry to help them find the horcruxes

Well I think what Harry meant was he won't go back to Hogwarts as normal, like to learn spells and gain knowledge of wizardry and spend a year there as he usually does and become a pupil, but Harry did not mean that he will not go back to retrieve something, say from the Room of Requirement, or Dumbledore's office, one of his devices will most likely help Harry apart from the Pensieve.

I have to agree with james pickles as I believe that Harry will go back to Hogwarts for a specific purpose like to retrieve something that will help him in his search fro the Horcruxes. I also think that his friends,hermione and ron will be persistent and go with harry wherever he may go.I also think that Ginny will go with,but harry won't really think it right...You know what I mean.
I think that harry won't go back to hogwarts for learning purposes,but for something valuable.I think that there can be another Horcrux at hogwarts...

haha, I'm posting after you Luckyfish! I also think that Harry will go back to Hogwarts. Not for learning purposes though. More for the horacrux purpose than anything... I think that Ron and Hermione will go with him and go wherever he goes. Ginny will try I bet, but Harry probably won't let her. But I think that it would be a smart idea for Harry to return back to school. At least he would be learning a few helpfull things..

Yeah Bluezz i can, just a bit put out, you know?
Yeah i havent been online for a while, i'm at my dads and i dont have a computer in my room is the main reason why!

Yeah Hogwarts will reopen of course, and i think we will see almost all of the students back!! Hopefully anyway, it would be a bit lame if we didnt see all of our characters again eh? I recon that Harry will go back to Hogwarts, and he might meet a new teacher that will help him with his quest.

Probably already been brought up (sorry sorry!) but do you think now with DD gone, Voldie will be able to take over at Hogwarts completely?

Just a thought

no, i dont think so. voldie has more important matters to deal with (like recruit for the war) then trry and take over hoqwarts. but then again i dont know how voldie's mind works speaking of that, who do you think will go to voldie's side for the war?

I guess everything has been said about Harry going back to Hogwarts and Ginny, but I agree that Harry will go to Hogwarts to retrieve something and Ginny will end up assisting him on his hunt.

With DD gone, I think that he might try and take over Hogwarts. I know that it may not seem that important because it is just a school, but it is important to Voldemort so if he wants it he'll probably be able to take it depending on the level of importance that the Order sees it as. If they decide to re-open the school then they'll guard it well enough to protect the students, but if it doesn't re-open then it's gone because I think Voldemort will want it. Who knows, he might have enough power to overthrow the Order and take the school anyway.


I don't think that anyone of the Order members will go over to the dark side if that's what you mean, but he'll have a lot of creatures such as the giants and the dementors. People's sides are already pretty well-determined, but you never know.

I got to agree with hp_book_reader with voldie having more important things to do than take over hogwarts.I don't think he has any reason to as he might think its beneath him to do so.I honestly think that people who are afraid of the "dark lord" might turn to him and be on his side,but I don't think there is anyone in th order who will be willing to betray the members and turn evil.I think that they have the confidence that they can beat voldie...

But, I think that the majority of the parents won't allow their children to go back to hogwarst as they believe that it is unsafe,but like harry said: hogwarts will be the safest place to stay at.

I also agree with HP_Rules!I think that Voldie will have almost all of the giants on his side and all those types of creatures including dementors etc and he just might have all the force to overthrow everyone.I am also curious to knwo if the prisoners in Azkaban would be willing to join Voldie?A bit of a lame question considering the fact that it was the "good" side that put them in there in the first place...

I don't want Ginny to go with Harry lol. But that is because it has always been the Trio together, and no one else, together they are unstoppable. But I don't want Ginny to be apart of it for some reason, at the end when the war is in hand then yeah with all of the DA but I want the journey to be the trio.

Hello,

Ya, I want it to be The Trio That goes with Harry. I really could careless what happen's to Ginny. I really don't want her there either, beacuse the Trio have always done it just themsleves. As I see it Harry, Ron, and Hermione are a Family of ther own, their Harry's Family. That may sound really cornney but I don't care thats how i see it.

Simle Everyone one, It's a Lovely Day!

Will Voldemort be able to take over Hogwarts? Yes. Will he do it? I doubt it. What would he want with a bunch of students, who aren't ever old enought to join the Death Eaters. No, I think it will be useless for him to attack Hogwarts.

Who will join Voldemort? First of all, those whom joining the Dark Lord will benefit personally. And, of course, those who are afraid of Voldemort and think that joining him will save them from a horrible death.

Well maybe Voldemort wouldn't want to take over for the school or the students, Hogwarts isn't just a school, it is a source of great power. Think of all the ancient magic and enchantments on every brick of the building, think of all the magic inside the schools, corridors moving, classrooms changing, pictures moving, armour clanging, objects walking. Think of all the ancient artifacts, tapestries, cabinets, paintings etc, not to mention all the books in the Library that could probably wipe out half of the wizarding world used in the wrong hands. I don't think Voldemort looks at Hogwarts as a school for learning.

he (or he could order someone to) teach the students to become future death-eaters, if he want to. that could be profitable for him. also voldie is power-hungry and taking over hoqwarts will defiantly give him power. i also agree with 'james pickles' hoqwarts is not just a school

hey all,
i am new to the forum side of veritaserum so i was only just sorted and i was put in gryffindor...obviously or why else would my post be here. i feel i am most like ginny...always being ready to fight for something that i believe in but always being told i am much to young or being protected by older family members even if i dont want that protection...she is also very sneaky in a cheaky sort of way and i think i have that trait aswell. i also see a side of myself in fred and gorge...fun loving and loud.

i dont think that people get to choose what house they go into, but the fact that they want to make those choices. The hat didnt put harry into gryffindor because he wanted to be there, it put him in gryffindor because he didnt want to be in slytherin. it was the fact that he didnt want to be in a house that turned out dark wizards is what put him in gryffindor.

one thing i dont agree with though is what NyMpHaDoRa said about neville being cowardly...i think that he is one of the most brave charactors in the HP books he just isnt that talented.

hi, lozza-cm. wlecome to the gryffindor. i totally agree with you on the fact that neville is brave. i mean look at him when he was in the Department of mysteries. he was very brave.

For who goes to who's who sides.. I say all the giants and dement"oids" (heehee) will be on Voldemorts side. The Spiders/Acromantulas, Dragons and all those others will be with Harry I suppose, so will the Order.

hooray someone agreed with me on the voldie taking over Hogwarts thingy! wicked!!

Just out of interest, is Veritaserum on MySpace? That'd be cool

Coinsidently, does anyone here have MySpace and want a new buddy? haha!

Yeah Neville rocks dude, don't be nasty to him!

I did a quick search on myspace, and there is no page dedicated to Veritaserum there. But really, I don't see why there should be =) It's a website, not a person
Anyways, if you want to see my myspace, here it is. It's not at all great, so be warned

Incidentally.. We can discuss veritaserum (the potion) as our new topic. So.. Imagine that you did very well in your potions class, and Professor Slughorn decided to reward you by giving you a little glass bottle filled with a colorless, odorless liquid - the veritaserum potion. What do you do with it? Do you use to get the deepest, darkest secrets out of your enemy? Your friend? Do you use it to play a prank on someone? Remember, you only have enough for one use

i would save it, for a time that i may really needed it. but i would never use it on a friend.

hey, does anyone think that veritaserum will come to back in the 7th book? because it had a very little role in the other books, and jo keeps mentioning it. so i have a feeling that veritaserum will come in hand later in the book. like maybe if harry finds snape he could use some veritaserum on him, and find out the real reason why snape killed dumbledore (it's just a thought).

Oh wow, what a good topic for a discussion! Veritaserum itself!

Colorless, odorless, tasteless, difficult to brew, but incredibly effective. There are antidotes to it (says Dumbledore to Harry when discussing the strategies to get the true memory out of Slughorn). So you would have to slip the potion when the subject is unaware and unable to have gotten to the antidote. How much is needed? Not much, according to Professor Snape -- one little drop may be enough, though I think the quentity needed depends on how much effort the subject has taken to hide the truth, or how much the truth his hidden from himself. I don't think Veritaserum will reveal an absolute truth, whatever the subject tells will only be the truth as he sees it ...

So what would I do with this potion if I had a bottle of it? That is the question... I don't deal much in lies and subterfuge and I am not a very suspicious character -- some people say I'm gullible -- so the first challenge would be to actually find someone whose potion-induced truth-telling might make a difference to me. I can't think of anyone that I would give a dose of Veritaserum to "force the truth out" ... those of which I know that they are lying could not say anything that I'd be interested in if they spoke the truth; our lives have already little to do with each other.

Since I am at a loss to find a suitable candidate for the potion, and have no sufficient reason to randomly administer it, I think I would use the potion so that I could test the effectiveness of my antidote.

The antidote would be very useful to me, since I am by nature a compulsive truth-teller and I find it very difficult to tell even the smallest white lie. Perhaps I could find a truth-masking potion ....

Wow I haven't visited my house's thread for a loooooong time. Can you tell me which is our new motto?
Hmmm...Veritaserum...A powerful and useful potion... Well, i would not use it to play a prank on someone, i wouldn't have worked so hard to throw it away like that! I think I would keep it for a moment when i would trully need it, when i would,for example,try to find out what Malfoy has been planning. Or... Hey,I just thought of something else. If i were such a good student, i would make one myself. Stealing the ingredients would be easy, and since i would have both the capabilities and the ingredients, i would create this potion myself! Do you think i was sorted at the wrong house? :-/

Hey everybody! I'm back again, but not for long, I have to stay off the computer untill I finish my summer homework.

Anyways, I think I would only use Veritaserum if it was to help someone or to prove something happened that they said didn't happen. I would also use it to settle arguments or something like that, since I don't like when argument go on and on forever.

-Lucky

Hehe *thinks of evil ways to use Veritaserum on his evil classmates*. Oh I wish I had Veritaserum. I could ask them all sorts and then they would spill their secrets to me. Then I could make them my servants with blackmail hehe. No I am only joking. I don't believe in revenge, although I do believe in justice and I would make everyone who ever bullied anyone serious enough for the victim to become lonely and depressed to own up.

Hello everyone!
I've come back after very long time!
Well, if I had Veritaserum surely I wouldn't waste it, I would use it for something important.
I would never use it on a friend, also because if he\she is a friend, it won't be necessary, but probably on an enemy yes: it could be very useful.

However I agree with alkisti. If you are a good student, why don't try and make it?

PS. alkisti, you are in the right house, just think about Fred and George

Hey Everyone!!

Oooooh, just the though of actually having Veritaserum on me is exciting. *mwuahaha* ...anyway...seriously, if I had some, I wouldn't use it on any of my friends, but it would be nice to see what secrets some of my enemies had *haha, blackmail* But personally, I don't really think that the quantity matters, because with only three drops, Barty Crouch Jr. Spilled his secrets to Dumbledore. Of course, he kind of wanted people to know, but still...

I could also use Veritaserum if I ws a lawyer and I wanted the court to hear the truth. That would be kind of cool. It would make interrigation a whole lot easier.

That's a good point, Bublebee, what if the actual truth is still hidden because that lie's truley what the person believes? That would make things a little difficult. Although, I think that Veritaserum forces the person to tell the actual truth, not what they believe. I mean, I could say that my eyes are brown, because that's what I truely believe, but they are in fact blue. Would the potion make me say that my eyes are blue or brown? Kind of a stupid example, but that's all I could think of.

I believe that the only truth that could come out of a Veritaserum-enhanced response is a subjective one. Where would an objective truth be coming from, and how could the potion drinker have access to it? If it were possible to gather an objective truth Veritaserum, why would you need a specific drinker and not use anyone?

No, the truth would be subjective. It would be the deepest belief of the teller. What Veritaserum does is remove the inhibitions against revealing the truth / the secrets / whatever, but it would still be the truth as the teller bel;ieves it to be.

Thus, the truth-teller could be wrong and the questioner has to take the teller's experiences into account.

hi, guys. today was my first day (well half day really) of highschool. i know totally off the topic. but it was just aweful anyway back to the world of harry potter (my favorite world if you ask me). i agree with Bumblebee if the person that is taking the potion really believes something that is false, then that is what he/she is going to tell the potion-giver even if it is not the truth.

Hello hp_book_reader, I don't know why your first day at highschool was awful, but I'm sure that it will get better with time. You just need to find your place!

I'd much rather be at Hogwarts too!

hey guys, i was just sorted into Gryffindor a few minutes ago.

I think I would only use Veritaserum in cases such as the 4th book. I don't think it is fair to use it lightly. I think I would only use it if I could sense lies, or something suspicious was going on, something that could end in serious consquences and when they need to be questioned seriously. If you used it on someone you generally trust, often you would be able to sense they are not telling the truth and could often coax it out of them.

harryp4me, hello there and welcome to Gryffindor!

hp_book_reader, yeah, it always feels weird to come back to school again. My sympathies. But don't worry, it'll get better, it always does =)

Lizzy_Radcliffe, ok, here's my example for you =) Say, a person X overhears a conversation in a bar - he hears man A talk about a meeting that starts at 6. However, it was noisy in a bar, and what man A actually said was that the meeting starts at 7. Yet, person X thinks he heard 6 o'clock, not 7, and he truly believes that the meeting will starts at 6. Thus, if he takes veritaserum now, person X will say that this meeting starts at 6, because he truly believes it to be so, although it won't be the actual truth. Have I confused you yet?

Ok, now for the fun stuff =) I'm a complete opposite of you, Bumblebee. I am usually very sceptical about people and question what I am told often. Even though I know the person is telling me the truth, I sometimes figure out the possibilities and consequences of this person lying in my head, just because. So I would have a different problem - actually choosing only one victim to use veritaserum on. However, I usually have a good sense of whenever someone is telling the truth, and I don't feel any need to use veritaserum on anybody right now. So..I'd probably be an idiot and just use the potion for a prank Give it to a person I don't like and see that person tell all the embarrasing truth he/she has been hiding

Yay im in Gryffindor

Hello Everybody (Hello Death Eater Snape) Today im going to show you how to kill a DE lol

Ooh.. This is an interesting topic! Goody

I have to admit that I'm at a complete loss as what to do with my new found treasure. I suppose I'd hang on to it untill it would really be needed badly. Like for instance I could help a friend of mine by makeing this person that's giving her h:twisted:ll right now or I could just force some direct answers from my graduation thesis mentor. I just can't make him tell me (without magical aid) anything that would actually help me with my research or the analysis of the results.
Sorry, wandered a bit of topic here....

But yes, that's what I'd do... save it untill a desperate need for it would arise.

thankz Blumblebee and bluezz, i quess it will get btter as time moves on. but anyway who do you think should have ended up in gryffindor but didn't. i think cedric, because i think that hufflepuffs are like gryffindors but without the brave part, and cedric is very brave. but what do you guys think?

hp_book_reader, how come you started school so soon? Well, good luck to the rest of your days at school and try to look at the bright side of life!
Hehehe,Arya thanks for relieving me! I mean, i've been so mean these past few days, i think that this site is doing something to me, i don't know!
I was mixed up about the objective and subjective truth... Lizzy_Radcliffe you got me laughing on the idea of using the potion to yourself! Really smart!
Oh! Can you please tell me which is our new motto?
I will have to stick to my idea of making the potion myself. This way i could search the difference between the 2 truths you mention, i could use it to me and i would blackmail some people just to make them feel scared! Ah again, my evil side! >:)

Hey everybody! I'm back! Actually, I didn't really go anywhere but my computer crashed so I bought a laptop to replace it (my computer was beyond fixing). Anyway, here is my take on things:

I'd use veritaserum to, well, I don't know right now. I could definitely think of some bad ways to use it, but I'd probably end up saving it in case of an emergency (I know, boring). I also agree that it is about the truth you believe, not the necessarily the real truth.

About who would have been in Gryffindor, I definitely think that Cedric should have been and maybe Luna too. She never really seemed that smart to me, and she is definitely brave given her actions at the minstry with Harry. I not really sure where she belongs, but I really just don't think she seems like she would be in Ravenclaw.

alkisti: When do you start school? I started on August 15 so it has been about two weeks for me!

hp_book_reader: I hope that things work out better for you, school has been pretty hard this year! Are you a freshman? Reagradless, it will get better soon!

Is the motto you want: Ab leon fidelis, virtus et aequitas (From the steadfast lion, bravery and fairness)

Hey everyone!
I see there are a few more people who have joined Gryffindor!Welcome to harryp4me and Death Eater Snape...Hope you guys enjoy it here!

Oooh,nice topic!I would only use Veritaserum on someone who I don't really trust but want the truth nontheless!I would never ever use it on my friends and if I did it would be for a good reason and I would feel really guilty in the end...But I firmly believe that if your friend really is your friend there is no need to be doing any drastic measures!The truth would be what they say and I would believe it considering that friends are supposed to be trust worthy...

And on the topic of who should have been in Gryffindor, I think Cedric should have as he showed a considerable amount of bravery and just doesn't seem the type to be the clever book worm type... And I agree with HP_RULES! that Luna seems more like a Gryffindor as she is much more braver than people give her credit for and she makes a really good friend.

Oh and to hp_book_reader,you shouldn't worry about your first day at highschool, as I was just the same as you and trust me, it only gets better!I didn't get to go to highscool with all my primary friends and that was the hardest part for me.But you will make lots of friends!It will all be better!

Have a great day everyone!