Hi fellow ravenclaws! i just found out that i was sorted into ravenclaw. i am very glad. Ravenclaw has always been my favorite house because in the books JKR makes it seem that Ravenclaw's are truely great people and they are at peace with most of the houses.

i love the idea of making up a motto and really like these too:
"The truly wise are those who know they still have a lot to learn"-oldman_fan
"The wisest mind has something yet to learn"-Paul

those are really good ideas. im really excited to meet everyone and have fun beeing in the same house. PROUD TO BE A RAVENCLAW!

Just thought of something else we can do for fun, my Ravenclaw Comrads. Since the Ravenclaw Common Room Entrance isn't known, we can decide where we want it. Or decide how it opens. Or even create passwords! To those of you that are more into "interior design" (sorry, not a fan myself) you could design the common room. Maybe find websites of furniture that members may like. You could help out there! Also, we should decide on a Ravenclaw Historical Writer. Whoever wants to write out the history of Rowena, and the Grey Lady, or even Flitwick as a Ravenclaw student with other Ravenclaws. Create your own based on Rowling's info. Theres the artistic people, and the historic people, and the idea people. I'll think of other things we can do for fun here, if you want. Lets see...oh one more idea, we could do a "Luna's Commentary" or "Quibbler" in this thread, since Luna is a member of the one and only. If someone (preferably a writer) would like to do that, they could have a go.

Just some ideas, but if you think there dumb, feel free to chuck them.

Oh, my favorite motto so far is "The wisest mind has something yet to learn", Though I am partial to the one "As witty as a raven, we can claw you up!". Kind of clever, eh! Although somewhat brutal!

Ooooo, I think I have it! Kinda smooshing some of our ideas together, chopping off some bits....... How about --
"The wisest know there is something yet to learn"

El Verte Veritas-- I love your ideas! We should have a Common Room with squishy chairs and all, a password (though I don't know how that would work), and I adore the idea of a Quibbler column by Luna. Every day we could add --" Last reported Crumpled Snorkack sighting..."
We Ravenclaws could make our house rock!

Thats a good change up oldman_fan! Well you know what we could do is we could decide on a Ravenclaw House Leader. Probably whoever has been here the longest. Then we could have that person decide on a password, and someone else can send him all the members names of Ravenclaw! Then the leader can send that password to the members, and they can post the word under their post, and we can take that persons thoughts into consideration. Because I'm sure some cunning Slytherins post in Our Common Room! Well maybe...Anyhow thats how we can work out a password system, without it being too technical. Also maybe we should have a collective vote on this stuff, don't you think? Because really we won't accomplish any decision by just posting our personal thoughts. We should have a vote. You know, and have the voting end for that decision at the end of the week. And we only count the "password" votes!

What do you say to that?

Yeah, I'd love to find a Luna Commentator too, do you think a fanfiction writer would be best suited for something like that. Or should we just pick a person each week. If they don't have the time, no biggie. We'll pick someone else.

For right now though, we should pick a leader and a "messenger" (person who sends leader the members names, or members that would be suitable for certain jobs.)

I'm willing to be a messenger for a short while. If this sound like its going too far though, and you would prefer just to have the common room as is "Please say so!". I don't want to be the "hated" Ravenclaw!

A LATER TIME: Oh I just saw that Just the Droobles is our "leader" so that helps out with that decision. So we don't need to decide that anymore. I don't know who the members of Ravenclaw are though, and I don't want to assume its just anyone who posted in here. Or do you think it probably is...because I mean why would a Gryffindor or Hufflepuff or even Slytherin want to post here instead of their own common room.

Good idea for the password, I think it may work. We should change it periodically, simply because I know those wily Slytherin members could probably figure out how to vote eventually if its not changed. I'm all for nominating a leader or messenger.. I haven't been here too long, so I don't think I'd be the best candidate.
We should definitely wait until we get some feedback from the rest of the Ravenclaws though, I agree. At this point, we're just knocking around some clever ideas. If there's no interest, we can chuck it in the rubbish.
We can see if anyone volunteers to do the Luna column on a regular basis..I think your idea of having a guest writer for a portion of it each week is great.
Everything we've suggested can be voted on, and I don't think you have to worry about being the "hated Ravenclaw" Ideas--that's what we Ravenclaws do best, right?

Well, since Droob is our fearless leader, we should run these ideas past him to see what he thinks. One problem solved....
Rather than us trying to explain what we've been talking (writing ) about in a novel length PM, I'll PM him and ask that he check out the past few posts on the house thread. Then he can direct us on which way to go with it.

Well, the problem with the password idea is that there are people getting put into ravenclaw all the time. How would we know the people put into ravenclaw posting the first time, and the people just posting here? And wouldn't people just follow convention with the password? Now, if all the house threads were restricted to people being sorted into houses, that would be good, but way too much hassle for the mods. I don't think they'd go for it.

But it would be cool.

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You're right. I was rethinking the whole password idea, and I think it would be a hassle for the mods as well. Also, Hogwarts is all about unity and harmony between the various houses, and members of other houses are welcome to read our threads But as far as voting on specific things we want to do within our house (like a new house motto), maybe we could restrict that by only accepting votes from people that have Ravenclaw listed as their house in their signatures?

Oh thats a really good idea plus like you said I couldn't think of a way to find out who's who...so thats really difficult. What we could do is have people tell us their from Ravenclaw like you say in their signature. I don't think the continuous Ravenclaw thing would be a problem...because we could send the word to them once they passed. Another thing we could do is have people put down if they want to be a part of this voting (because some obviously won't), then send them the password, after we check if they are Ravenclaws. That wouldn't take time at all! But then its useless, I guess I just thought it would be fun to have a password...but it would be very difficult...

Anyhow, this is the list of the 39 Ravenclaw Members that have posted in here thus far:

Snapelover
Bendis
Pixymajik
Capricorn
Felix_Felicis_444
Meggie
Quality Quidditch Supplies
Just the Droobles
Laudine
Omerus_Banning
Michelle Dessler
Tuitus
Everseer
Dupin
Kool Kat
Pigwidgeon328
CandyCauldron
Joy
Caitlin in Australia
Tigers Eye
Speekingtree
Albus_Dumbledore
shaebabe09
Padfoot313
ginny_1991
dancefreak27
iamtherealluna*
Revealeroftruth
got harry?
Krieltje
pepperimp
TheWhitePhoenix
Hiraya
ihatepeas
phoenix_song
oldman_fan
Paul
savingharry
SummerGirl

We could in theory send the password to these thirty nine, and then send it to all the new people every other day or so. We could have "new member" informers. That would be helpful.

I figure this should be fun if we figure out how to work it.

Heres the choices we have yet to make, if we want to make them:

1. What should be our motto?
2. What furniture should we have?
3. Where should our Common Room be in Hogwarts?
4. Who should be our historical writer?
5. Who should be our Luna Commentators?
6. Ravenclaw Quidditch Team (If this is allowed, and I'm not sure it is. I'll check!)
7. Our class schedules, but I've no idea how this would work....

Just some fun ideas, but as I said before, don't let it make you hate the common room. This will only be run by "popular demand". And I don't want to sound like a mod either, because I'm far from it, so at any time know that they can stop the room be run this way, or making these decisions!

What I was suggesting is that we scrap the whole password idea, and just accept votes on our various things from people who have Ravenclaw in their siggies. Everyone that I've seen who posts has their house in their signature... I know that as soon as I was sorted, I jumped in and changed my siggie to show which house I belonged in!
I saw a lot of mods and prefects on the list you gave-- outstanding that we have so many in our house! I think that any one of them would be happy to give us some guidance as to what is permitted.
That being said, I think some of the suggestions you made of things to vote on are cool. We definitely should have a new house motto. Some of the other things you mentioned sound like a lot of fun--the Luna Commentary, Historical writer,and Quiddich team. I also think a seperate Common Room within our house would be cool. Again, pending approval.
Quite ambitious of you to look up all the Ravenclaw members, by the way.
It's unfortunate that JKR hasn't mentioned a whole lot about Ravenclaw in any of the books, so I'm all for a bit of House pride, and having some fun hanging out with my fellow Ravenclaws.

Yeah you're right, whats the point of a password. Although they are somewhat fun to come up with.

I didn't understand your common room within a common room. We should ask the mods for more ideas, that would be helpful! I know when I first posted in here, it was difficult to know what to say. So I figured this may help newbies out!

Yeah luckily there are only nine pages, and most of the posts were long. So finding the names weren't too difficult. I'm sure there are other Ravenclaws who haven't posted yet in here though, so that list probably comes up short.

Sorry about the confusion regarding the Common Room. I thought that since this was called the Ravenclaw House Thread, it wasn't technically a common room. My bad.
By the way, I'm not familiar with Rowena---you mentioned her in your post regarding a historian and the Grey Lady. Is it one and the same?

I assume she means Rowena Ravenclaw, the hogwarts founder. Don't feel bad. I had to look it up. I loose geek points.

but 1000 geek points to El Verte Veritas! YAY!

From the hp lexicon:

I lose geek points as well.....but how many? Good job, El Verte Veritus. Are you a she? I ask because savingharry referred to you as such, and I popped in to read your profile--that info wasn't there.

savingharry-- Where do I find the HP lexicon? Boy, am I announcing my ignorance to the universe..... But I just got here, so I've a lot to learn.

"The wisest know there is something yet to learn"--my contribution to the search for a new motto (from a few posts back). I like it more every time I say it, lol. When can we vote?

No, definitely a guy, I don't know if I should be ashamed or not? But I can understand because Veritas is more feminine sounding, even though it just means "truth". On a side note, are "geek points" a good thing. The only reason I remember is because I've been "horcrux" theorizing, one for each founder you know...

www.hp-lexicon.org, is basically the hero of the Potter Universe, it lists everything. I have to use it sometimes when people mention small characters. I forgot who Madam Pince was one time, and Hokey the House Elf.

I guess we can start the voting now:

1 The wisest know there is something left to learn.
2. The wise know that there is something to be taught by a child. (something along these lines)

Please continue. When we reach ten choices, then we can start voting.

Well, in Ravenclaw, I think geek points are a good thing,right? Thanks for the info on the lexicon. I'm sure I'll be perusing it's pages quite often. Hey I was just reading the beginning of this thread, and way back when...Michelle Dressler said that this shouldnt be a common room within a common room, chatty, or such. Its on the first couple of pages. So maybe we are off track?

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Umm, wow. You guys have been busy. oldman_fan sent me a PM telling me to get my butt in here, and I wasn't even aware this was going on! Course, I have been gone for the past two days...

The password for our room is a no. It was thrown around a while back for each different house thread and it was tossed because it would screw up forum unity and it would be hard to set up. So...if that's what you were trying to get at before you nixed it yourself, it's still a no.

Um...the rest sort of confuses me.
I understand about the motto. I might be able to ask if one of the Mods can temporarily turn this into a poll so we can try to get a motto once we find a couple we like. Then once we get enough votes, we'll secure it and go about the rest of our business.

There are also a lot of people in Ravenclaw that probably don't post in here, so that list would probably always be inaccurate. There's not really a way to keep up with everyone that's been Sorted either. We'd just have to count on traffic that flows in here regularly.

This is where you lost me. Our common room, like in the books? It's on the seventh or forth floor or something...Historical writer? ? I don't understand the Luna commentator thing either. Ravenclaw is also a Quidditch team in itself. We have a school Quidditch team and that's who we're supposed to support. Kind of like Seamus supports the Kenmare Kestrels, but he's in Gryffindor. and I don't think we really need another team to represent us. Class schedules...

The original point of this thread was to talk about Ravenclaw. Discuss its history, not write fanfics or our own interpretations. We were supposed to talk about our characters, their role in Harry Potter, our house ghost (The Grey Lady), our founder (Rowena Ravenclaw), or the mystery surrounding our house. There is so little we really know. JKR says we will get our day. And that means what? There has been lots of talk tossed around about whether Ravenclaw falls closer to Gryffindor or Slytherin, and which house they could align with in the end. There is lots of stuff to be talked about. I mean, we can think of a motto, but we need to not get carried away with things that are like role-play, because that wasn't the intended purpose.

Thank you so much Droob. We were getting WAY off track. I jumped in the middle of the thread and ran with what was being discussed, without going back and reading the rest of the pages. When I did, I realized that the original intention of this house thread is to discuss what we do know (very little) about Ravenclaw and it's members. I still like the idea of a new motto, though.

Hi I am new to Ravenclaw. By name is Storm. I read most of the ideas and came up with some answers. Can you please add me to the other Ravenclaw list. Some of my ideas are not a password like you all allready said. Geek points a must. Location of the comman room is in the 2nd or the 3rd floor. I chose that because in the games Snape lives next to the Slytherine Comman Room. So the Charm teacher, I don't know how to spell his name might be next to the Ravenclaw comman room. Another thing is that then they would be close to the Libary. Thats all my ideas for now. Tell me what you think. Also can some post the motto from ealier page I did not see it.

I have done alot of research. I just want to know what you all think. Some said that we should talk about what we know about Ravenclaw. But what do we know what we don't allready. Thats why I say lets worry about the question El Verte Veritas said on page 8. Then we can put that to a vote. But thats just what I think. Do we have any ideas about a motto I thought of one and it is terrible. Here it is THE EARLY BIRD GETS THE WORM (thats bad) I have more answers to the questions on page 8. But I need to do more research! Don't hold back on what you think. Type back as I find more about Ravenclaw

This is what i found I just added it to my old message. Ravenclaw is the least well-known of the Hogwarts houses. We know it is the house of the intellectual. It is respected. (Who doesn't admire intelligence?) But it is largely ignored. Maybe, like it's element, Air, Ravenclaw is just too intangeable to grasp. The astrological signs of Air are Gemini, Libra and Aquarius. Students we know of so far are Cho Chang, Harry's on-again—off-again love interest, Penelope Clearwater, Percy's girlfriend, Padma Patel, Parvati's sister, and Luna Lovegood, the most interesting Ravenclaw so far. She is spacy and eccentric and reads her father's newspaper upside down. She is perhaps a seer. She can see Thestrals (well, Harry can see them too now). She is a true Ravenclaw, a very airy person who's mental preoccupations shield her from the pain she would probably feel if she understood how crazy she is considered to be by her peers.

I think I will add one more thing. Here it is. It's about the Grey Ladie Perhaps the most mysterious of the Hogwarts house ghosts (except maybe the origin of the Bloody Baron's bloodstains....), the Grey Lady is the patron ghost of Ravenclaw. We have yet to speak to her in the books, although she did pass Harry in the hallway once. She was described only as "the ghost of a tall witch" gliding past. This leaves her, so far, very open to artistic and imaginative interpretation, and this is simply my own. Maybe this picture will change if she becomes a more developed character. The image I get of her is mostly derived from the name, "grey", which makes me think of sadness or gloominess (also, as J.K. Rowling has said that it is typically unhappy people who become ghosts). Also a bit of history I heard that there is an actual ghost called the Grey Lady who haunts some castle in Britain. Possibly the ghost of Lady Jane Grey, who was executed at the Tower of London. A visitor also sent me an email about a Grey Lady who haunts a castle in Scotland. Who knows?
Until JK describes her in more detail, I see her as young and lovely, with an intelligent but sad air, and from about the Renaissance era (I have no idea why the Renaissance. I just do. ).

Cool, I didn't know that the Grey Lady was real... I just discovered my house thread about five minutes ago... I didn't know about it. Just one thing I was wondering though... I was sorted into Ravenclaw when I was only "Showing Signs of Magic" Shouldn't it be when I'm at the "Sorting Ceremony"... jus' wondering. Anyway, sorry that was a little off topic Back to the House Thread... I always liked the Grey Lady the best, even before the Ravenclaw house became my favorite...
Gotta go now...
Later
Oh, Please add me to the Ravenclaw list... So happy to be in RAVENCLAW!

The Ravenclaw tower, according to HP Lexicon and OotP, is located in a tower on the west end of the castle. My guess would be since Hufflepuff and Slytherin are both down in the dungeons, Ravenclaw and Gryffindor would be very close with what floor they were on. I don't think they'd be on the same floor because of course Harry's house has to be on a floor that is the number 7 just for the significance, but Ravenclaw is most definitely in a tower.

As for the Received Hogwarts Letter and the Sorting Ceremony, that has to do with post count, not what is going on in the forums. Because technically, a lot of the staff members wouldn't even be graduates yet, but we've already got jobs.

Did you all read my ideas. What did you think of them. I am going to try to do some more exploring on where are house is But what is a Luna Commentors, and Historian writer

Another thing I think what ever we do we MUST put it to a vote. But we need to find a way to know who is and not in the house

But they still can look at what we are doing. I also agree with you that it does say a tower so it is most likely on the 6 th or 7th floor

The house threads are open to everyone. That may not be how it is at Hogwarts, but that's how it is here. You'll find that some of the people you sinply listed before aren't all from Ravenclaw. I'm pretty sure a Slytherin has posted in here... And, not everyone that has been sorted has posted in here. So there's tons of other Ravenclaws out there that can vote. And there's no way to track them all anyway.

Before I run any sort of idea about opening a poll or creating one, we need to come up with a good few mottos. We can't start a poll without options.

Hi! I was sorted into Ravenclaw, which was a bit surprising because I thought I would have ended up in Gryffindor or Hufflepuff, but now that I think about it, it does suit me. Luna is such an openminded being (to the point of incredulity on her friends' part), but she has an extremely old soul. She's gone through some things that most young people have not experienced (the death of a parent), she is an avid reader, she seems to do well in school. She also takes lifes lumps and rolls with them - the whole thing about her posting up the notice for people to give her her stuff back at the end of the year. She is gracious, generous, and not too full of herself. She has the most amount of wisdom beyond her years to know that there is always more than meets the eye. I can't remember what house Dumbledore was in, but I would guess Ravenclaw for these reasons that I have discussed about Luna.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, and we do know what house Dumbledore was in.

Thanks for this thread it's fun!

I received my letter!!!!! Woohoo!

Dumbledore's house was brought up in here a long time ago, and one would generally assume since he was incredibly wise and super witty that he would naturally land in Ravenclaw. But of course, all the heroes must be a Gryffindor, so that is the house that Dumbledore was in. Not sure why really....I guess those qualities for Gryffindor outshined all the ones he most definitely has for Ravenclaw. I assume he is much like Hermione and was almost placed in Ravenclaw, but the Sorting Hat saw better.

Did we ever decided where are house was located at. I still want to know what a Luna Commentors, and a historicial writer does?

I think we all can finally agree that a password is by far out of the question. But heres a deal for those who still want something similar. No matter who you are, we will count your vote. But if you personally find the link where you were sorted and send it to me or another Ravenclaw “tracker” for the votes, then we can send you a password. What this password does is it allows your votes to count twice! That way everyone can vote, but those who still want a “word” and specialness ( a word I created for the curious! )! I think this is definitely fair! Then all you have to do is edit your original vote with the password in it! Then any votes after that you have the password! I will see if the mod here (Just the Droobles, I believe)views this as a suitable solution!

Also we need someone to tally the votes, and I am more than willing. But if anyone would like that job, please state so.

So first vote, what should our motto be? The results will come in after twenty people have voted! Below are the choices!

1. The wisest mind has something yet to learn!
2. The truly wise never stop learning!
3. The wise look at life through a child’s eye.
4. The strength of wisdom is discriminating between good and evil!
5. Wisdom consists of the anticipation of consequence.
6. Knowledge is simple. Think of something stupid, and don’t say it.
7. Wisdom is the supreme form of happiness.
8. Only those who desire knowledge can access it.
9. Wisdom isn’t born, it’s acquired!
10. Sapiens Navi Altus (The Wise Fly High in Latin)

If you want a different one, please state so, and that will also count as a vote. Obviously it would be greatly appreciated if you choose between these ten however

P.S. – Other ideas currently don’t matter, as we should tackle one thing at a time. However as Storm has been curious and JTD...I figure I should explain! Furniture was for those of you Ravenclaws who enjoy interior design. I just thought you could send us links and have us vote on furniture we want or don’t want. Then we’d have a mental picture. But we can do that later. I also think I shouldn’t have put “Where” and instead should have put “What”. As we all know the Gryffindors have the fat lady, and Hufflepuffs I guess have a cellar like door. I guess I also imagined statues moving apart for Slytherin, if you gave them the password. So what about Ravenclaw, does it have a portrait, or a locked door. Maybe its like the room of requirement. I just figured we should talk about how our door opens to the common room. But as said before, we can talk that later. Or discuss now, and vote later...A historical writer has already been chosen and his or her job finished. Believe it or not, it was you Storm. You wrote down all that is known about Ravenclaw in Essay Form. Thats all I thought, and then maybe we could add to it on possibilities. You know Rowena Ravenclaws childhood, her death, Flitwick as Head of House. Or even why our colors were chosen. Thats actually what this whole thread is about. All a historical writer is meant to do is collectively take that information and write about it. I figured a writer would like to do that, especially someone interested in History (even if its made up, ha!). A Luna Commentator is someone who also writes a report (in true Luna style) about the weeks events. Its like a reporter for the Quibbler! Just write about something strange in the wizarding world. Maybe there’s a new drink that’s being brewed that can change the weather based on the persons mood, possible a cauldron being made of Nerf material, or a cross bred magical creature. Anything weird going on in the magical world. Last but not least I figured we should vote out of the Ravenclaw members who should be in the Ravenclaw Team next year, in the books you know. And what position they should play. Also ignore the class schedule idea, it was rambling.

Anyhow I hope this clears everything up, and we can move on.

Let the voting commence!

.....guys. Don't jump onto anything yet.

Firstly, votes are once again and will always be oepn to everyone on the site. If there is any way we are going to do this it will be with a poll, not by sending PMs to someone. Personally, I think we need to either narrow down the choices for the mottos or come up with some new ones because some of those are just really random or off the point.

Not sure why you care so much about what the tower looks like...I imagine it would look like the two common rooms that have already been discussed in the books. And for the door thing, Slytherin has a hidden door that opens in the middle of a stone wall when you say the password. It's in CoS. Not sure about Hufflepuff though.

Once again, I will remind you that this is not a roleplay room. We are not here to pretend we really are students (no matter how fun that may seem) or to decorate it or write made up articles. Sorry to be a party pooper, but as I stated earlier, we are supposed to be talking about Ravenclaw in itself, the people we have met in the books that are in Ravenclaw, what constitues a person to get into Ravenclaw, our teachers, our ghosts, our colors, and what the future might hold for our house. Please keep this in mind.

I believe the whole idea of a password is impractical. First, I think it would be incredibly cumbersome. Secondly, I doubt the people in the other houses care all that much about what goes on over here. Seriously, I've popped over to the other house threads, and all I did was check out what they were talking about. They were just discussing the characters in the books that were from their house, and how they interact with the other houses, theories, etc. I don't think any of them would actually be interested in coming over to this thread and voting on our poll of the week.....

Erm...The idea of voting on sqashy chairs vs. cane-backed, sorta does sound like role-playing, doesn't it? We Ravenclaws are known for our brilliant minds, and brilliant minds normally have wonderful imaginations,to be sure. Let's put our heads together and explore the past and possible future of Ravenclaw.

Storm did a great job of summarizing much of what is already known about Ravenclaw. Yay, Storm! Let's see what else (if anything) we can dig up, or theorize on. I for one would love to find out more about the Grey Lady!

As far as the motto is concerned, I like the idea of the first one, but I'd like to change the wording a bit to what I suggested before --"The wisest mind knows there is much yet to learn".-- Its another way of saying that the truly wise are those who know that they don't know everything yet...

I think its a great idea for us all to have a Quibbler thread in the "Just for fun" section of the forum. I searched, and haven't found any threads like it. It might be fun to ask permission to start a "Quibbler", and have a Ravenclaw do a column each week. And everyone from all over the forum could post silly "articles" for the thread. Some of them would probably be hilarious!

First of all I would like to say I am so excited about being the historicial Writer. Now I would like to go ahead and vote for the idea of --"The wisest mind knows there is much yet to learn".-- . I like how oldmann_fan changed it. Thats a great idea. I still think that we should immagine what it looked in the inside of the comman room. I think think that the entrance to the comman room is behind of a statue. Thats just what I belive. Got to go look up history!

I like oldmans idea on the motto --"The wisest mind knows there is much yet to learn".-- Thats my vote for the motto. I am so excited about being able to be the Historian Writer. I do think we should talk about what is inside our Comman Room. I already have some ideas. But we can talk about that later on. I think the entrance to our comman room possible is behind a statue. But thats just what I think. Now I am going to do some Ravenclaw History search about the founder Rowena Ravenclaw. Sorry to say but I want be able to get on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. The dates in the United States are Augest 11, 12, and the 13th. I am going out of town. I will post more about Ravenclaw later!

The Grey Lady
Harry Potter character

Nina Young as the Grey Lady in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.
The Grey Lady
Gender Female
House Ravenclaw
Allegiance Hogwarts
Film portrayer Nina Young
First appearance Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
The Grey Lady is the ghost for Ravenclaw House.

JK Rowling, author of the Harry Potter series, has stated that The Grey Lady appeared very briefly in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. Many Harry Potter fans believe this passage refers to her: "[Harry and Ron] passed the ghost of a tall witch gliding in the opposite direction, but saw no one else." Fans have found no other unexplained mention of a ghost in the book, so it is assumed this is The Grey Lady. She may also be "the ghost of a long haired woman" that floats past Harry and Hagrid when they are talking about a conversation between Dumbledore and Snape in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.

She makes a more notable appearance in the deleted scenes portion of the Chamber of Secrets DVD (when Harry is finding the secret of Tom Riddle's diary, he asks her for privacy). It seems rather strange that the Ravenclaw ghost is allowed in Gryffindor Tower, though the movies often contradict the books.

There are a number of Grey Lady ghost stories of Great Britain, and it is thought that they might have been an inspiration for this character. Alternatively, she could be named after Lady Jane Grey, whose ghost is said to haunt the Tower of London. According to a letter written by JK Rowling to Nina Young, the actress who played the Grey Lady in the first film, she is "a highly intellectual young lady …. She never found true love as she never found a man up to her standards." [1]. That description closely echoes the life story of that unfortunate young woman.

Spoilers end here.

I did some research and I found out that the Ravenclaw comman room is located behind a suit of arrmor on the 6th floor. Thats what I found at on a web site.

Glad your enjoying the job Storm! You do a good job at it, if I do say so myself. I'm so glad the whole Password Idea was thrown out! So glad to be done with that! But I agree it would be nice to pick what furniture we would have, and I don't think its too much of a Role-Play thing. We could just speak our ideas on what furniture we think the room would have, or what it would look like. We don't even have to vote on that portion! I also love the idea about a Quibbler Column, and would enjoy writing it myself, if no one else wants it! But I don't know if it belongs in here, do you? I guess it could start here though...so maybe I'll start tomorrow, if thats what we want!

Remember, in the books, Griffyndors, Ravenclaws, (and I'm assuming the other houses as well), all read the Quibbler. So I think it should be a seperate thread from the Ravenclaw house thread, and open to everyone.
My idea was to ask if we could start a seperate thread in the Lounge section of the forum, called "the Quibbler". Then one of us Ravenclaws (you, perhaps,Verte ) could start it off. Then everyone from the forum, (all Houses), could post silly "articles" if they would like, just for fun.

Great job Storm! Nice work digging up where the common room was--behind a suit of armor on the 6th floor--wherever did you find that?

So there's a sad story behind our Grey Lady...."highly intellectual, who never found true love because she could find noone that met her standards". Do you think that quality is present of many Ravenclaws in Hogwarts?

Take Cho for instance....Cedric died rather early in their relationship, so we have no way of knowing what might have happened. However, we do know what happened with Harry. She stalked off in a huff when Harry mentioned meeting Hermione during their Valentine's Day date.... didn't give him any opportunity to explain or discuss the matter. Harry didn't behave as Cho thought he should, so she ceased all romantic interaction with him. Sure, she apologized for her friend Marietta's actions (tipping off Umbridge to the DA meetings), but the moment he mentioned Hermione, she again cold-shouldered him. A bit harsh, don't you think? Harry didn't meet her standards.

Who knows, if she wasn't so quick to dismiss him due to a small deviation in her "plan"-- when his actions didn't measure up to her idea of "the perfect guy"--perhaps Harry and Cho would have lasted longer. Cho, by her inability to accept less than (her idea of) perfection, may have ruined her own chances at love.

Just a thought. But then Harry and Ginny wouldn't have had a relationship....

Ok i was sorted a while ago, but never introduced myself to this thread. I was sorted into Ravenclaw!!!. I hope to drop in from time to time and meet many of you.... im sorry to have made my appearance so late!

Welcome to Ravenclaw, Albus! Great to have you, even if it did take you a while to pop in here and say hi. Pull up a chair, we'll have a cuppa, and maybe some good conversation as well. ' A meeting of the minds', so to speak..Or is it 'great minds think alike'? Hmmmm. I'll have to ponder that while I go read the Quibbler upside down...

I think the Quillber is a great idea and I want ____ to do that job. I am sorry but I will be gone this weekend. I am leaving soon. Albus welcome to Ravenclaw. Sorry I can't type more.

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Once again, I will remind you that this is not a roleplay room. We are not here to pretend we really are students (no matter how fun that may seem) or to decorate it or write made up articles. Sorry to be a party pooper, but as I stated earlier, we are supposed to be talking about Ravenclaw in itself, the people we have met in the books that are in Ravenclaw, what constitues a person to get into Ravenclaw, our teachers, our ghosts, our colors, and what the future might hold for our house. Please keep this in mind.

I think what Aubrey has said here really needs to be re-emphasised. This thread- like the other House threads- are for talking about the House of Ravenclaw. They are not for pretending that we are students, engaging in particular Luna-type activities, chatting etc. If a new Ravenclaw- or other forum member for that matter- comes in here for the first time welcome them sure..... but keep things non-chatty and on-topic. For example, it might be that someone comes in after being sorted and the next person who knows what's going on might say "Welcome _____ (name)_____ to the Ravenclaw House thread! At the moment we're discussing why we believe that Luna was put into Ravenclaw. Other recent discussions include the house colours, Professor Flitwick as the head of Ravenclaw (etc etc), we'd love to hear your thoughts on these!"


Keeps things simple, makes the new person welcomed, stays out of chatting and role-play and avoids ticking off the staff and potentially getting a thread closed. Of course, you don't need to exactly quote ME because hey- that would be boring But I'm sure you intelligent Ravenclaws (and associated readers) get he drift.


If people are going to start talking about furniture, I'd be more interested in knowing WHY people think that it's a particular style to it. For example the argument that Ravenclaw is decked out in classic 70's style retro furniture because while they are smart, they aren't overally fashionable (and then argue why). However given that the rest of the castle seems to be decorated pretty simiarly, I really think that you'd need a pretty convincing argument as to why Ravenclaw Common room would be decorated any differently. However to discuss the placing of a couch..... I'm sorry to offend anyone, but who cares? Unless someone (and no, this is not a challenge) is going to attempt to argue that the psychology of the common room layout is important to the identity of the Ravenclaw students, then I personally don't really think that it matters if there are 5 couches and 3 single chairs in the room and where they are.

I think as the 'Intellectual House"--- and yes... this IS a challenge--- there are far more intelligent related topics that are relevant to the House of Ravenclaw, their role in the 7th book and the history of the House.

**Applaudes Cheerfully** I think that is brilliant. Thats what I like about VTM.... there isnt any role-playing... Im not sure exactly why but I like it anyway. I come to VTM for news and intelligent discussions.... no offense fellow Ravenclaw house members but I was turned off to the thread yesterday when I finally inroduced myself as being in Ravenclaw when I saw that we were discussing Furniture for a made-up house... it wasnt very intruiging.... anyway I just wanted to express my compliance with Pixymajix last thread...thanks again pixymajix

albus

Okay, I am going to go ahead and steer the discussion into a new topic.

Our House colors are blue and bronze. I did a little research on my own, and found out what these two colors often represent in literature, and in history.



According to the sorting hat, we are wise, witty, and are ready to learn. How does this reflect upon how the color blue is traditionally portrayed? No one peson is 100% fit for a certain House, right? So, based on these facts, Ravenclaws have the most in common with Hufflepuffs, due to their trustworthiness, loyalty, and truthfulness.

I couldn't find the color meanings for "bronze," so I took a few attributes from the colors brown and yellow and found this:



Once again, we have intellect. We are also reliable, which might be why we "find our kind," says the Sorting Hat.


I don't know, I found it interesting. Ravenclaw is certainly much different from the rest of the Houses. It is unique in that it is free-spirited, yet down-to-earth and joyful. It reminds me a lot of Luna.




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Hey I am back. I did some more Historian search. First of all I found out that Rowena Ravenclaw the founder of our house. Everyone know that. It said she was from Glen. I did some research and Glen is in Scotland.

Her Famous Witch or Wizard card says that she is card 82. Ravenclaw was very good friend with Helga Hufflepuff.

Rowena was also the one that came up with the changing floor plan at Hogwarts. I thought that was so cool.





Rowena Ravenclaw said: We will teach those who intelligence is surrest

Hello fellow Ravies! Sorry I haven't been here in ages, but I have something worth risking showing my face again...

I've come up with a motto for Ravenclaw, and I'm sure Jo would like it. It's a spin on 'draco dormiens numquam tittilandus', which means, of course, 'A sleeping dragon should never be tickled.' Now ours is this:

corvus ponderens numquam vellicandus!

A pondering raven should never be plucked! Can it go through as a motto?

Lol, sorry, I'm on a roll here. The Gryffindors started it, so I've been snooping through my Latin notes and books this morning, and it's been loads of fun!

Anyway, colours. Nice research there David! I'll have to go do my own before I comment, though... I'll be back.

Hi Capricorn. I like your idea of the latain motto. JK Rowling would be very very proud. I have been in Ravenclaw for a couple of weeks and love it. I am the historian writer that meens I find History of Ravenclaw. I love your idea an we should now put that in our vote now!!!

These are the new choices of mottos.

1. The wisest mind has something yet to learn!
2. The truly wise never stop learning!
3. The wise look at life through a childs eye.
4. The strength of wisdom is discriminating between good and evil!
5. Wisdom consists of the anticipation of consequence.
6. Knowledge is simple. Think of something stupid, and don’t say it.
7. Wisdom is the supreme form of happiness.
8. Only those who desire knowledge can access it.
9. Wisdom isnt born, its acquired!
10. Sapiens Navi Altus (The Wise Fly High in Latin)
11. corvus ponderens numquam vellicandus! (A pondering raven should never be plucked!) in Latin

post your vote and I will keep track of who votes on each motto. My choice is #11. If anyone could think of a way to think of a motto shaped out of Rowena Ravenclaw words that are above in one of my other posts.

Is any one going to start a Quibbler section???

I like your idea for the motto, Laurette! I think it is very clever, since it does sort of mirror the "never tickle a sleeping dragon" thing that Jo made up. My vote is for that one. Perhaps if everyone likes that one we can just use that as our motto....

So...does anyone wonder why Luna was not given Prefect-ship-ness? I know Padma was one for a bit...ah, well, she still would have been the girl prefect in her sixth year, so Luna couldn't possibly be one. Do you think Luna could be a prefect or Head girl in the next book? Why or why not?

OOh, great motto, Laurette!! I like it! I also liked #10 and #8, but I think Laurette's is the winner. I think that all of the House mottos should be similar to the Hogwarts one.

Anyway, as for your question, Aubrey. I think that it is basically common knowledge that Hermione is the brightest in the grade -- boy or girl. I happen to be a fan of both of the characters, but Hermione probably deserves Head Girl-ship more. Just based on her grades. Luna has this unique perspective on life and an uplifting personality (for some...she manages to get Hermione in a bad mood).

I think that, when you get down to it, Prefects and Head Boys/Girls are chosen 50% academics and 50% leadership abilities. Padma might be a bit smarter than Luna in classes, and Luna is too quiet (or perhaps shy, reserved, etc.) to have good enough leadership skills. Do you think that she would be comfortable being the House leader? I don't think so; she seems like she likes to stay in the background of things. At least when she's not around her friends.




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So far the results for the poles are #11 has 4 votes. That is the only one anyone has voted on yet. For anyone who does not know me I am Storm and I am the Historian Writer. I agree with all that all that Luna prefect stuff.

"A pondering raven should never be plucked"--I love it! It sounds like something Dumbledore would come up with (Nitwit..Blubber..Oddment..Tweak!), and it is along the same lines as the Hogwarts Motto. It gets my vote.
As to your question, Droob--I don't think Jo will make Luna a prefect. Not because she's lacking in intelligence, or creativity (surely!), but I don't really see Luna as having much leadership quality. I agree with David, in that Luna seems to be most comfortable out of the spotlight. Even around "the gang", she tends to stay a bit reserved. Do you think it's aloofness, or is it that her mind is not often on the same 'wavelength' as the rest of them?
I don't think she's shy, she seems quite able to speak her mind when she wants to. It just appears that she's a bit disconnected most of the time, do you know what I mean?

Could I get some clarification on the Prefect issue? For being a Ravenclaw, I'm feeling a bit in the dark. Prefects are chosen in their fifth year. I assume they remain so in their sixth year, but how many prefects are active in each house at the same time? Is it one boy and one girl per fifth and sixth year? And isn't Luna a year behind Padma? In which case she wouldn't have been chosen over Padma because she wasn't eligible at that time. I also agree with oldman that Luna does not possess leadership qualities. She suffers some abuse from her classmates (taking her things, not taking her seriously, etc.) that suggests they would not be willing to accept her leadership.

Also, I love the motto Capricorn created!

About Luna being Head Girl, we would never get to know anyway because Luna is a year behind Hermione, which means she is a year behind Harry, so we can't have his thoughts after that. Unless we get it in the epilogue. If Luna was to become Head Girl, which is highly unlikely for reasons already stated, she wouldn't have to compete against Hermione because Hermione wouldn't be there. (That was in response to David, by the way...)

I understand what you mean about Luna not being a prefect. She is much better off not being in the limelight and I don't think she'd be very good at informing the first years abot Hogwarts....

But the thing about picking prefects has me a bit confused...I know they pick them in fiffth year, and apparently they carry over into sixth, but do they loose it in their seventh year? the prefects who are not made Head Boy or Girl, do they just go back to being regular students? And since the prefects carry over, does that mean there will be no prefects from Ginny's grade and none from the year behind Ginny?

Ah, you're correct, Aubrey and pepperimp! The fact that Luna is a year younger than the trio slipped my mind. So she and Ginny are in the same year, right. Aww, that's sad...when Harry and Neville and the rest leave, she'll only have Ginny as a friend ...poor Luna...

As for the prefects thing, I am pretty sure that there are six prefects per house at all times (unless, of course, one or both of the prefects become Head Boy/Girl in tehir seventh year, leaving only 4 or 5 prefects in their House). Prefect-ship carries over from year to year, so Ron and Hermione (and Draco, Padma, etc.) will be prefects for as long as they remain in school. Prefects who do not become Head Students in their final year (which most likely isn't such a common thing...it just happened to happen to James Potter) remain prefects.




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Thanks for clearing that up, DaviD It makes sense that are 2 prefects in each house from 5th, 6th, and 7th years --making 6 per house--at any given time. The books center mainly around Harry and his year, so I guess it never occurred to me before

As for Head Boy/Girl--am I correct in thinking there is only one Head Boy and one Head Girl in Hogwarts at all times? And they are chosen from among all the prefects in their 7th year? I wonder what qualities are most helpful in acquiring Head Boy/Girl-ship. We know that Percy is a by-the-book stickler for the rules. On the other hand, Voldy's best quality in school seemed to be his ability to charm the staff (except DD).

As for our Luna, I don't think she even cares to lead. I see her as more of a "I'm going this way....Oh, are you following me?" type of person. You're right, Aubrey! I think the extent of her information to the first years concerning life at Hogwarts would be along the same lines as her Quiddich commentary... , bless her.

I'd assume that there's only the one Head Boy and Girl from the quote "Percy's got head boy", plus there's no mention of anyone else that Percy has to share it with. However we know that it can't just be selected from the prefects because James was Head Boy and we know that he wasn't a prefect. So I'd love to know how they select it.

I don't think the Ravenclaws- or any of the houses really- would have a spectacular chance of being the Heads over the other houses. Anyone from them could show leadership skills, which is why they'd be chosen as prefects- however I don't think that you could really say that (picking JUST on the prefects from Harry's year) Padma would be a better prefect than Hermione or Hannah (Pansy is another story )

I think it's interesting that James was head boy, yet he wasn't a prefect. It just seems like it would be a natural "graduation" of two of the prefects into the head boy & girl postions since they are already considered to be leaders. I guess I assumed the professors each recommended members of their houses to become prefects, though there would probably be a process for selecting the head boy and head girl. At any rate, it's going to be interesting to see who is selected for the trio's seventh year. The student body might have less of a selection!