To get really technical on you, Ravenclaw is an eagle, and Gryffindor is a lion. The other two are right.

It may have some significance. But being founders of such a big school, don't you think someone would have known about their condition as animagi? Hermione surely would have seen it in a history book somewhere. Perhaps it would be a big surprise? I don't know how that would help the plot though. But there has to be some reason why Huff is a badger, Claw is an eagle, and Gryff is a lion. Course we know why Slytherin is a snake. So what about the rest?

I never knew Ravenclaw was an eagle. Oh well.

I think that Gryffindor is a lion because lions are kings of the wild/beasts/nature -- however you want to put it -- in stories and so that basically characterizes them as brave. And since Godric really values bravery, he'd like a mascot with a reputation for being brave.

Again, since I thought Ravenclaw was a raven, since it's black, I thought it tied in with her last name, so she picked it for that reason. But since it's an eagle, it doesn't, so I dunno.

Hufflepuff - ? Maybe Helga just liked badgers? There's nothing wrong with that!

i've always wondered why the related animal for ravenclaw is an eagle. i mean, when you first see it or hear of it, you think that the related animal is a raven. (Well, that was my first thought anyway.) My sister thinks the related animal for Gryffindor should be a griffin, but i think the lion is pretty cool. i never thought that the colors for ravenclaw were blue and silver. (although, the bronze looks pretty close to silver.) Any ideas on why the related animal for hufflepuff is a badger?

i think that the house animals are the patronus' of gryffindor, ravenclaw, etc. because ravenclaw and eagle don't make sense...what do you think?

Hey everyone! I've just been sorted into Ravenclaw!
BUt I had a Q...

so...augamenti...are you ever planning on actually asking this question or are you just a big tease like that?

hello to everyone! i was sorted into ravenclaw a few days ago and have been lurking since then..but i hope to participate in the conversation from here on out. i liked the idea about the heart of ravenclaw being wisdom or wit or learning. it suggests that these are going to be pillars in the next book. another thought i had, though, was about rowena ravenclaw. what if it stands for something or someone monumentally important to her? her "heart," so to speak?
and i didn't read all the way back so this might have already been mentioned, but could rowena ravenclaw herself be the grey lady?

Eagles are regarded as intelligent birds by most people, so an eagle does make sense (just not as much as a raven). Anyhow, congratulations to all new Ravenclaws. Feel free to stop by the other House Threads. We are always looking for brilliant, new insights.

Droobles, technicalities are great. Not to go all Snape on you, but fine distinctions and all that.

Ravens and eagles are two very different bird, both with extremely different meanings. Ravens are very often associted with death, easily seen in the third Harry Potter movie. There's raven's all over the place for Buckbeak's execution. Ravens are sort of a spooky animal, with some mystery about them, and they seem to give off a feeling of unease and forboding. I think they have also been called death omens, similar to the Grim.

Eagles are seen as...sort of like a bird of freedom. that's not just because I'm from the States, but a lot of people associate some birds with power as the supreme bird, the one with the most freedom and beauty. Eagles are intelligent. So you sort of get that intelligence, power and freedom from the eagle, but the eagle is also a predator that can snatch things up in a snap, so some still have to be wary of it.

There may be a reason why the eagle was chosen over the raven...but I don't know what that reason was. Perhaps JKR didn't want the Ravenclaw house to be a raven because then everyone would associate it with death. So far, the only house with a death has been Hufflepuff. (Current students) Perhaps there is some other symbolism though.

Gryffindor's lion is pretty easy to guess. Lions have bravery and power. I just watched Chronicles of Narnia the other day (I know a bit late on that one) and it's pretty obvious that lions are held very high in the view of other people. A common misinterpretation though is that the griffin looks like a lion. A griffin looks like a bird, but only has the body of a lion. It's not a flying lion, or a lion with wings. I don't think Gryffindor would be very well-represented by a bird-like creature.

As for Hufflepuff's badger...no idea. Are badgers loyal? Friendly? Forgiving? I don't know, I've never met one.

Interesting thought on Rowena being the Grey Lady. I think it is very possible. Then the question comes to whether the others are floating around somewhere. Salazar probably isn't...

I was in England last summer holiday, with a gamekeeper, a good friend of my dad, so I picked up some things, also about badgers. I'm sorry if I say anything wrong here, I might have forgotten something, or turned around facts. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway, badgers will eat anything. Their poo is really smelly, most times black because of the berries they also eat. They like peanut butter (you smear it on a sandwich, lay it on the ground and wait around dusk for them to come out of their den). Ah, they live in a den, which can be quite big.

So, Hufflepuffs will "eat" anything - maybe meaning that what they get presented as knowledge, they will take it up, learn it. The den ("hole", "house", "living place", you get the meaning)... they live there together. I think the Hufflepuffs are really socialisable, so that would be something they have in common, I should think.
I won't start about "smelly poo" and "smelly", dirty blood.

Marieke

Ravens are very clever also. However they do have a negative image. They are scavangers and like to eat dead meat. They are viewed as tricksters in mythology. They are currently viewed by most Europeans as symbols of war, death and departed spirits. Sounds like a Slytherine type mascot...

However read the article on Raven Symbolism. It states that they were not always viewed that way.

In Greek mythology the Raven, Corvus, was used to avert evil. Hmmmmmm.

Ravenclaw may have a BIG play in the last book....averting evil???????

As far as Huffelpuff and the badger here are some possible insights as to it's meaning:

As taken from Kiva's American Indian Symbol Dictionary :



Also found on this American Indian site



Was Poppy Pomfrey a Hufflepuff???

In this case maybe the symbol was taken from American Indian lore. The badger has healing powers and therefore plant lore info. They are tenacious and strong.

I think it fits.

sorry about the last post idid actualy it was my little cousin who was visiting, i swear i'm going to kill him. just joking. But as to the badger being for healing i think you have it wrong, badgers are slow and steady and if you read wind in the willows loyal. So helga huffle puff chose a badger because they are steady and loyal and they are just happy and calm and just nice! not much els i can say it fits. also i do think it is cool that raven claws colors are bronze and blue i was wondering but do swear i will get my cousin, maby i can try out my caian peper mashmellows on him?

Living in the states, I have encountered a few badgers in the woods. They are a lot like wolverines in that they are fiercely aggressive when threatened. If left alone, they are calm and rather unobstrusive. They don't go out of their way to cause trouble, but make formidable foes. I thought that this was always the reasoning behind choosing the badger.

Taking a step back, I do not think the Grey Lady is Rowena. One of the founders floating about the castle would seem to garner more prestige. Something about that would have been mentioned in Chamber of Secrets. There is always the possibility that the general populus does not know who she is. The students may know her only as 'The Grey Lady.' If this were true, you might think that only the Headmaster knows the truth.

This is from hplexicon about the Grey Lady:

I thought you'd be interested to know that the ghost of Ravenclaw, the Grey Lady, could actually be or be based on the 'Grey Lady' that haunts Brodick Castle, on the Isle of Arran in Scotland. The castle was originally built by the Stewarts and was captured by the English during the Wars of Independence. In 1406 an English fleet sailed into the Clyde and destroyed much of the original castle. For much of its life the castle has been owned by members of the Hamilton family. The older part of the castle is said to be haunted by the "Grey Lady," who starved to death in the dungeons of the castle because she had the plague.

In case you wante to know

HPLexicon - Ghosts

That is interesting. Throwing a bit of history and lore into the stories is something precisely JK's style. We have seen many times that she disregards the traditional stories of magic, but still embracing others. An obscure (for we Americans, anyway) bit of lore would add some flavor and realism to the story. It sounds like a good idea.

Oh! that's very interesting. It also makes a bit [okay, a lot] more sense than my theory. After the Burial, you make a good point about the chamber of secrets and the grey lady. i was always attracted to the ravenclaw ghost for some strange reason, her name just sounds so mysterious. now i have a real legend to read about!

Hello guys!

I has been a long while for me away no only for this dear threat of mine but for the forum itself... I am so glad no one erase coz inactivity .

A bunch of cheers for everyne new here. These threats having growing quite well and more interesting people keep jumping in at the Ravenclaws common room. I´ll go to the other rooms later on... I wanted to visit mine first .

Droobles, can I hug you? please... please! You have been taking care of things here so well!!!

I´ve been reading the last 5 pages last time I came by this has around 10 pages so you can imagine how exciting it was for em to read here again!


I can’t avoid commenting again about the different kinds of intelligence. What can I do? I just love the topic!

I know by experience (a part of my major is philosophy) that some kinds of knowledge tend to be very alienating. At some state the knowledge obtained can be outstanding and very clever; the reasoning and intuition will need hours of deep reflections but the possibility to transform that in something tangible, in something “touchable” requires another kind of impulse.

I am thinking just now that the union of the four houses is indeed a very well thinking work team. In a way Hufflepuff is all heart, very friendly and tender, you know sort of a teddy bear; and Ravenclaw is all brain, knowledge, wisdom, sort of an intellectual energy.
Gryffindor and Slythering are more practical as if these last two houses were the containers of the first two which are a little more disperse about the facts matter. And moving with this flow I have always seen Ravenclaw getting along much better with Slythering that is much less impulsive than a Gryffindor.
Not only at school or college but at work too I have seen that work teams are sort of divided between where the ideas born and where they are going to be develop and processed. In this way a balance is obtain. Of course, the borders between those activities and the kind of persons who do them is not something straight and clear.


Okkk it is enough I think... for now... see you at the forum guys!

Pd: I just remember so I am editting this... Who was the one talking about a Griffin? I was just thinking that is such great figure... I mean the griffin is half lion half eagle... like a mix between Ravenclaw and Gryffindor if you mind... It is very interesting for me coz the creature has the head of an eagle as well as its wings and its clawns but the body, the paws and tail are thoseof a lion...
What do you think guys? I reckon...

Welcome back to the forums, Bendis. I like your comments about the uniting of the houses. I find it interesting that Gryffindor and Slytherin seem to be more closely related to one another than any other pair of houses. I think this is due largely to Harry, and to a lesser extent, Draco.

I had a thought about purebloods. Do you think that there are pureblood maniacs outside Slytherin? (Your comment about how Ravenclaw and Slytherin got me thinking.)

Well the major rift was between Slytherin and Gryffindor, right? The one that caused Salazar to leave the school. Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw weren't as involved in the argument, but other clues can tell us where they stood. We know Justin Finch-Fletchely isn't pure blood, going of course by the distinction that "pureblood" wizards have 2 magical parents as well as 4 magical grandparents (according to an article on JKR's official site). We don't really know a lot about the background of the few Ravenclaws we know. Wasn't Penelope Clearwater a Ravenclaw, and she was attacted in CoS... That pretty much implies she isn't pureblood, right?
I'm pretty sure Ravenclaw isn't as pureblood crazy as Slytherin. JKR would have played that up more if it was true and/or significant.

Fuoco

I don't know. I think the interpretation of the badger is still up in the air. I mean, I don't think it really tells us anythign we didn't know. We already knew that Hufflepuffs were loyal, friendly and social. So...is there anything else? The healing part was sort of interesting. I think Hufflepuff may be the "healing" house. There's probably some other theory about 4 people and one being the healer. Reminds me of Chronicles of Narnia....

Cayenne pepper marshmallows?? I wouldn't want any...

I had read about the ghosts on Lexicon, but I do think it would be interesting to know all the history about the ghosts we know about. Especially the Bloody Baron. We know about Myrtle, but she's not a school ghost. The rest have histories too. Did we ever learn why Nick was getting beheaded?



I was the one talking about griffins. Well, not originally, but I was saying how they are a combination of an eagle and a lion. And I think it is interesting that Ravenclaw and Gryffindor could be joined in that way. Again, we're all still waiting to see what our role will be in the seventh book, and I think it will be something pretty important. I think griffins are one of the most interesting mystical creatures right after the phoenix. And let's not forget that the knocker on Dumbledore's door to his office is a griffin.

I definitely think there are other pure-blood psychos out there that weren't in Slytherin. Some people probably thought that everyone should be pure, but perhaps they weren't snivelling enough to say anything or assert themselves. My bet would be that they would probably be in Ravenclaw if it was another house, but I wouldn't hold me to that assumption. Penelope was a Muggle-born student. That's why the basolisk attacked her. Everyone that was attacked was Muggle-born. But I still think there could be purity lovers in Ravenclaw. Marietta seemed snooty enough, and Cho's mother worked for the Ministry...so there could be people from their families perhaps.

I remember having discussions about the houses some characters are. Many people thought that Umbridge was a Slytherin, some people did not. The point I would like to raise here is that the world is not split into good people and Slytherins. I think it is entirely possible that a few Death Eaters were whatever houses/schools.

I completely agree with the comment on Death Eaters in different houses or schools. I just think that the stereotype of most bad wizards coming out of Slytherin has played a big part on the people's opinion about the subject. It just seems that most of the more likely to be mentioned death eaters came out of Slytherin.

After people leave school, the house is usually not mentioned unless they parade it around (I know I have said this before). You never know what house a person comes from unless it is relevant in some way. JK leaves so much to be filled in by the reader (which is rather amazing when you consider the amount of detail she does include).

Yes, but we were talking about pure-blood-maniacs, not Death Eaters. Just as 'not all Slytherins are bad,' not all pure-blood-maniacs are Death Eaters. A lot of them seem to be too scared to show their faces....

Are there Death Eaters that were not in Slytherin? Absolutely. Prime example: Wormtail. Are there pure-blood supporters who aren't Death Eaters? I'm sure there are because most of them are too cowardly anyway.

Hey Ravenclaws!!! So what have you all been talking about? I hope you all had a lovely christmas and a very happy new year!!! Sorry the last post i made was a few weeks ago it's because i haven't really been posting in the lounge for a while!!

Thanks for the support Droobles. You said what I meant, but more concisely. (Why do you do that so well?) Anyhow, my brother and I began a discussion on Marietta's intentions in the Order of the Phoenix. Before I say anything, I would like to allow her house to pass judgement and play the role of psychic...

I'm usually really bad at saying exactly what I want...

Marietta's intentions....
I don't think she wanted to be there in the first place. I think she was a tag along with Cho as Cho sort of persuaded her into all of it. I don't believe Marietta had good intentions for the DA ever. She came into the Hog's Head with a grudge against what they were doing and she left with a nice decoration on her face.

So I think Marietta's intentions were to simply come along with Cho as company. Marietta probably didn't want to lose the pretty-fabulous-dated-Cedric-Diggory-Cho friend she had, so she automatically did what Cho told her. Asked her rather. Marietta was uncomfortable from the start. Once she begin to see what was going on, she kind of grew her own thoughts. Brainless thoughts, but independent thoughts nonetheless. She went to Umbridge, but here's where her intentions take another turn.

I believ her intentions when telling Umbridge was that her mother works for the Ministry and the Ministry didn't support the stories that Harry was telling. I'd imagine that Marietta's mother had told her some pretty grand stories about "the afflicted Harry Potter" and that Marietta believed them. Marietta told Umbridge because she probably thought Harry was a nutter and she didn't want a nutter doing all that stuff, expecially behind the back of her mother's fellow collegue and behind another person who thought Harry's stories were bogus as well.

Marietta may have had good intentions, but she didn't know the whole truth of anything that she was talking about. She didn't know what Umbridge was doing to Harry. A lot of people didn't. She didn't know Harry's stories were true. She didn't know that the Ministry's stories were absolutely bogus as well. It was basically a lack of knowledge and truth on her part, and also that she simply couldn't keep her mouth shut.

Hello

I thought that I would be sorted in Ravenclaw, but I always hoped that I would be Griffindor.I guess because in books you can`t read much about Ravenclaw.Cedric is Hufflepuff, and for Slytherins and Griffindors we all know, but Luna and Cho are only Ravenclaws you could read little more about. I hope we`ll find out more about Ravenclaw in book 7. Luna is a claver, funny (but we lough et her, not with her), she is a little bit to different for me to relate with her (diffeent is good, I like to think about myself as different but still)...
About Marietta
I do not agree with Just the Droobles. She didn`t know all truth but she wasn`t the only one. nobody else but her said anything to anyone about DA. She wasn`t the onlyone in that position. and as Harry said Ron`s faher also work in Ministry and he didn`t said anything to Umbridge.

Yes, other people in the Ministry had children in the DA. Marietta, like most of the wizarding world heard many stories about Harry. Why should one interview in The Quibbler change her mind? She was not close to Harry, nor did she know what Harry knew.

As far as she KNEW, Harry was a 15 year old boy who claims to have fought and escaped one of the two most powerful wizards in the world. As an intelligent Ravenclaw, wouldn't you be skeptical?

I don't fault Marietta for what she did. It was wrong, but she had no way of knowing what was right.

Yes, but Ron knows Harry on a personal level. Marietta does not. Ron would never question Harry's insanity as he claimed that Voldemort had returned. His father is also not the typical Ministry worker. Heck, he works with Muggles. Or used to anyway. He was not with the crowd that thought that Harry needed to go to a loony bin because he knew Harry. He knew Harry would not lie about something like that. He knew Harry has had encounters with Voldemort.

As do a lot of people in the DA. All the Weasleys know it, Hermione knows it. Neville should have a pretty good idea. Plus his grandmother is just like the rest of them as she thinks the Ministry is bogus. The difference between the rest of the DA and Marietta is that everyone else had the same beliefs. Marietta thought Harry was as he was portrayed in the tabloids, and since she didn't know Harry, she didn't know any of the truth. Some people like Michael Corner and Zacharias Smith and a few other people might not know Harry on a personal level, but they all had an interest in learning because they disagreed with Umbridge and the Ministry and all that. That is where Marietta is different.

Because she has different thoughts and ideas, she made the decision that was right to her, but wrong to all the other members.

's Advocate here.

So what is the difference between Marrietta and Luna? They both believe the junk they read. But Luna believes in Harry.

Marrietta is one of those brainless people that has no origional thought . She is lead by the 'powers that be' to follow like a leming (sp?).

Luna is full of origional thought. She believes every wild hare in her father's paper (and nothing in the 'news paper'). Is this a comment on society as a whole?

Hello , I was sorted a couple of days ago and am a proud Ravenclaw. Always thought I'd end up here! Excellent!

To join in on the ongoing discussion: I feel that Marietta is one of those people who can't see anything beyond the regular. She just wants to walk in line and tag along with her friend. And like has been said, doesn't have an original idea in her head (gathered from what we've read )
Whereas I feel Luna is more eccentric and is willing to believe more complex and unusual things. Plus I think it's normal to mimick what your parents believe, happens all the time!

Woowhoo!! some one who agrees with me!

Welcome to the house looneylouise!! I kinda thought Griffindor would be cool but the sorting hat is all knowing and Ravenclaw was a much better choice for me. Since i am a teacher and all.

Grab an armchair by the fire and settle in.




In PS/SS Hagrid said:



But Wormtail proves that statement wrong not all DEs are Slytherins.

As far as pureblood-maniacs not being DEs wasn't it Serius' parents that followed LV until they found out what an egocentric egalomaniacle whacko he was (was that redundant? ) So not all purists are DEs either.

I'll do just that, Thanks! I'm very ahppy to be a Ravenclaw, now I want to get my hands on a Racenclaw Chrest shirt! haha

I think what you just mentioned can be easily proven by what "the real world" is like:
There are a lot of racists out there, but not all of them are murderers. It's a long way from having an opinion (which may have been forced on you by your parents) to acting on that belief!

Now i'm racking my brain to find someone besides Wormtial who's a non Slytherin DE.
Well, Karakov.. but he wasn't in Hogwarts so that's not relevant!

We do not know that Karkaroff went to a school other than Hogwarts. Even so, it is a pretty safe bet that he went to Durmstrang.

loonylouise, what is the derivation of your name? It just so happens that there is a ratherr famous Louise floating about the site....

Anyhow, how similar do you regard Marietta and Draco? Your comment about parents forcing opinions on their children got me thinking. I am curious if you intended your comment to have that subtext.

And wouldn't it be nice if we all had cozy chairs by a fire? (It is 26 degrees below zero..fahrenheit... where I live right now)

Derivation? Like short name or nickname?
sorry tis 9 am on a sunday and I have to begin revision in half an hour so i'm a little our of it!

I was indeed thinking of Draco when writing that.
Well I think that there are similaroties between him and Marietta. But the thing is she just has stirct parents. Whereas I think Draco has been taught from when he was born that he was superior, that muggleborns are lesser beings etc. So I don't think it's abnormal how he's turned out. Though I do believe there is a difference between Draco as a person without the influence of his parents and silly friends and the Draco Malfoy that his parents created. If he was truly evil he would've killed DD. But it's not in his true nature, it is - like so much - being forced on him.

Ouch that's cold! Well over here ( belgium) it still feels like it's autumn ! lthough I hate it, fight global woraming I say! Let it be cold as it's supposed to be!

As far as the weather it is warm here (North Carolina) too. Spring has sprung! Flowers are blooming. It's just so wrong. It will be in the mid 60s (F) for a few days. But I guess that ice storm that is hitting the middle west right now will be here soon.

loonylouise I agree with what you are saying about Draco. His family has taught him that certain types of people are inferior. He had nothing to base any other thoughts on until he entered Hogwarts. Now he might be beginning to see that Mom and Dad are not perfect, all knowing, infallible. This is a huge conflict for a child at his age, starting to make up his own opnions and ideas.

It is something that a lot of her readers of his age are going through too. Trying to do the right thing, having to make up their own minds for the first time, wanting to do what Mom and Dad say but realizing that it might not BE the right thing.....

Great contemporarty issue.

It's like that here too! Trees are in blossom, it's January! I find it apalling! I don't like the cold, but this so called winter is freaking me out! Because you know the world is slowly going to the dogs!

I've thought that about Draco for a while , but especially since HBP. The dilemma he's facing is terrible. If he follows his own feeling instead of his parents' - or now also LV - he will almost certainly die and his mother might be killed also. So he has to choose between his own integrity and death with for a 16 year old is an impossible choice!

And this is indeed what a lot of teenagers go through - i'm well positioned to know my little brother just turned 17 - they have to find their own way in the world. Decide what they want to do with their life. And it's hard enough even when you come from a warm loving family.

Yes winter is absent here as well....

Ravenclaw...are we talking about Ravenclaw?

I need to think of a question that actually goes with this topic. That would be quite nice. All right...well, let's try this one. It does sort of have to do with Ravenclaw.

Why do you believe that the Hogwarts champion in the fourth book (Cedric) was chosen to be in Hufflepuff and not Ravenclaw? Was JKR just giving Hufflepuff a reason to be the center of attention? Or was there some other motive or something? Why not Ravenclaw?

Hi, I'm new...well not new new...but I just have yet to post on the Ravenclaw house thread since being sorted

Anyway, I really have not much to say?

But Just the Droobles, I agree with you. All the other house have had some sort of attention under the spot light, except ravenclaw. Could this mean that Ravenclaw will get attention in the 7th book? Maybe we'll meet someone important?

Any other ideas about what that could mean? Or am I just going crazy...? haha
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Maybe JKR feelts that Ravenclaw gets enough attention because of Cho and Luna Lovegood? Cho was an imporant character in two books and Luna has been the same?

Still Ravenclaw deserves to be more represented i think.

Yeah, I've always kind of felt that Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw were almost like the "outcasts" at Hogwarts.

I have alot of friends that just watch the movies. And in the 4th movie, they noticed alot of people wearing diffrent colored scarfs ( blue and yellow ones ) and they said to me "did they change gryffindors and slytherins colors" they didn't even know they existed?

And I guess I see what your saying loonylouise. Maybe JKR does think they get equal attention. Maybe it's just because I'd like to see my own house seen and written about a little more...

I think JK chose Hufflepuff instead of Ravenclaw because of the qualities of Hufflepuff house. Let me elaborate. How is Voldemort going to be defeated? Dumbledore and the Sorting Hat both believe that the wizarding world must stay united against Voldemort. Well, Hufflepuff is the house of loyalty, right?

Also, many students view Hufflepuff as the worst of the houses. They are not brave, witty or cunning (just ask Draco). Anyhow, having the best student come from the house that embodies friendship and loyalty is a message.

Also, suppose Cedric was a Ravenclaw. Would Harry's attitude been different when Cho dated Cedric? When I first read GoF, I thought Harry felt badly in part because Cho chose the Hufflepuff over the Gryffindor. As much as Harry believes in the equality of purebloods and muggle borns, I think he still believes that Gryffindor is a superior house.

Hey everyone, I'm one of the newest Ravenclaw's and I'm sooo excited about it!! I guess everyone always assoicates themselves with the grifs, but I'd prefer Ravenclaw. What house was Lily in? I know that James or I think that James was a Grif along with Sirius, but I dont recall where Lily was. I think people have been underestimating the other houses, maybe the ones who arent in the spotlight will come into play in the end... yeah LOL I doubt it too.

I always thought that Harry`s parents are grif, but witch house was Albus? I can`t remember that I read about that, but I`m not sure. I always had a feeling that he is Raw or Huff, but he is so clever and everything else.

Like the Potters, Sirius, Lupin; DD was a Gryffindor.

I am assuming Peter was one also since he hung out with James, Sirius and Lupin. How did he make it into Gryffindor? He should have been a Slytherin!

yes from what we've seen/read, wormtail is anything but brave. he just seeks protection from more experienced and gifted wizards!

Does anyone know what house Aberforth was in? I don't know whether JKR ever mentioned it but I was wondering!

Since DD didn't think Aberforth (sp?) could ready, maybe he didn't go to Hogwarts? He was either genious and got around needing to read or he was Squiblike and shouldn't have been doing magic.

I certainly hope he was trying to harvest bazoars when he was caught messing with that goat Poor goat!

I think that this is an important point It seems quite plausible that the 'witty' house might have a plan of attack, or a secret talent etc. But for the House to be given the kudos when the student embodies all-things-good, gives more of the impression of 'an all-rounder'.



I can understand what you mean about the idea of him thinking 'geez, she'd rather date a Hufflepuff than a Gryffindor?!?!', but to be honest I'm not as sure about this one.

I think it was more that he liked this girl--- and not only was she dating someone else, but at that point in time Cedric was Harry's primary competition. He had already beat out Harry once on the Quidditch Pitch (all dementor blame aside), he was older, more experienced, seemingly more attractive etc etc, so how on Earth could Harry compete?

You are right that Harry was, in some weird way, jealous of Cedric. He was older and more handsome. He beat Harry in Quidditch. He beat Harry in getting Cho. He beat Harry in popularity. I know that Harry does not seek popularity, but some part of him wanted to have things as easy as Cedric. Harry had lived as a pariah for such a long time that I think he was slightly jealous of Cedric. (Remember that he wouldn't take Cedric's advice during the second task because he was dating Cho.)

This was enough reasons for Harry to be jealous of Cedric. When reading Goblet, there were a few comments that made me think that Harry was also jealous because Cedric was not worthy of dating Cho. The only reason I saw for this was that Cedric was in Hufflepuff. If Cedric was in Ravenclaw or Gryffindor, I don't think that Harry would have been as jealous (but still plenty bitter about losing Cho).