Hello and welcome, ChoChangizHot.

Thanks for the kind words, 62442al_Man.

I don't think the Cup is at Hogwarts. It's not rolling around loose for anyone to pick up. Lord Voldemort killed H. Smith and stole it. I thing he's put it somewhere safe. I hope book 7 doesn't spend that much time at Hogwarts and that we branch out and see some of the Wizarding World. Godric's Hollow for example.

welcome new hufflepuffians!!
i agree with you GardenToad.if the cup was at hogwarts it would be too obvious...then again,i can't imagine a book of hp without hogwarts(sobs!!),it just isn't right...that is why i think the trio will go back(got a bit off subject,haven't I?).anyway,i will say again that in my point of view the cup is in a museum of helga's,possibly in a cupboard that you have to say "open" in french(given that helga was billingual and that she loved her kitchen,which is the place where the cup is held).i also chose french so that hermione's gift isn't useless(she went to france,didn't she?).

I agree, there is little chance the cup is at Hogwarts. However, I've been thinking the past few days and why do we assume that all of the horcruxes will be super protected? I mean the diary wasn't, and if Nagini turns out to be one, well she/he seems unlikely to have extra protection placed on him/her. Just a thought. I know the locket was, and the ring, but I was just curious. I know it makes sense to protect them, but I was wondering.

hmmmm..... I don't know it could be just about anywere. but voldie puts his holocruxes in safe places with meaning to him not the thing the object represents so where is somwere that we know hase a special significans to voldie?

this is a little of subject but i think it has to be said that Hufflepuffs are as smart as any Ravenclaw out there as brave as any Griffendor and as Cunning if they want as any Slytherain! We are Hufflupuffs and we need to be proud of it! I thought i was going to be a ravenclaw, got 100% on sats in the 8th grade, But i got put in hufflupuff. Hufflupuffs rock!
Now back to subject i was just thinking is it possible the cup is at the house where voldie stole it? mean this had to be an important place in his life he got a locket and the cup! so did he hide it the house were he got it?

Okay I think that the diary was protected or at least it should have been. I mean if you gave something like that to a follower you would hope that they didn't just give it to the next blood-traitor child they see. I think it would have been a much more difficult find if it had been in the Malfoy manor where LV had sent it. And if he weren't in Azkaban for being such a failure at the DoM then I think he would still be atoning for that little mistake.

Hello lovely Hufflepuffs!!!
I would have visited this Room before, but I hadn't time enough...but this time, in the spirit of Interfandom Unity Month, I want to say that although being sorted in Slytherin -and happy of it-, I would have been happy to be sorted in Hufflepuff!!! I like your basic qualities very much and I think that your being able to work hard make you natural born winners... It's not school but life that shows our value!!! and you're definitely winners on the long run...which is much more important that being popular at school.
I have two friends from Hufflepuff whom I find really extraordinaire. They have great Hufflepuff qualities and being their friend is something really worthy.

Have a wonderful evening!!!!

Although Professor Sprout teaches Herbology, I do not think we can associate Herbology with Hufflepuff. Travel ten years into the future, I can easily envision Neville as the Herbology teacher. Should we change our images of a house simply because the head has a favorite class? I don't think we should.

Personally, I think the idea of associating Hufflepuff and Herbology is demeaning. Hufflepuff is regarded as an easier subject (after all, the 'inept' Neville is good at only that). Thinking of Hufflepuff as Herbologists makes is seem that Hufflepuff possesses less magical ability than other houses. That is simply wrong.

And yes, I realize this is a very broad generalization.

Awww....no, please, don't say herbology is a minor subject!!! Herbs are the basics for potions and healing. I have studied (really!!) them for years and still can't remember all the properties, time of harvesting, which part to use...
By the way, Hufflepuffs are related to Earth. I am convinced that Herbology is the perfect subject for them, and again, we see subjects through Harry's likes and dislikes. Being so impatient and active, he can't appreciate potions or herbology because they request application, patience and dedication. No wonder he's not in Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw!!

Not everything can be solved with wand wavings. Study and diligence are necessary to make a good wizard. The problem with Neville is not that he's inept in general, but that people had destroyed his self-esteem for all his life. No wonder the boy finds himself safe only when in close contact with Mother Earth and its peaceful creatures, plants and herbs.
An excellent memory and a perfect knowledge are necessary to become a good herbologist, whose name in latin was Herbarius or Herbaria.

As has been said elsewhere, the diary was supposed to be found and used so it could open the Chamber. It should not be taken as a guide for other horcrux.

Helga Hufflepuff was associated with earth, hence the badger, so Herbolgy is a nice fit but we're not limited to that.

i agree,that doesn't mean that helga was teaching herbology only....there is also care of magical creatures.also i see her as normally entering the forbidden forest only because i think she had a flare for taking care of creatures

Of course, I'm not saying that a Hufflepuff student's life starts and ends within Herbology, but that in my opinion Herbology is a major subject, not a minor one, and I would attend it with much enthusiasm!!
Being a wizard is not only waving wands, as Professor Snape has punctuated in Harry's first year...but I can understand that it's very appealing to the younger students. They soon realize it's necessary a lot of work and dedication to become a good wizard or witch.
Luckily you Hufflepuffs can make it!!!

of course we can....
i didn't say that herbolofy is a minor subject,i love it!i agree....being a wizard is not just waving a wand(although i've bought hundreds of them...i'm serious....).what wand do you think the founders had?it's been troubling me for almost 2 days....

Have you considered making one yourself? it's very creative and interesting. Unfortunately I don't have unicorn hair or diamond dust or dragon's heartstrings... but with some particular crystals and essential oils, the result is quite good, too... I make them for a few, selected friends. It takes a lot of time to choose the right tree. That's why studying plants is, again, very important!!!
My wand is from olive tree, a bit wavy. I found the branch on my favourite beach in winter. It has an amethyst point on one side, and a rock crystal on the other. I have engraved it with one of those...I can't remember the name, it works with a heated point basically.

I'd say that oak wood is one of the most sacred kinds. I would definitely see Helga Hufflepuff, with her maternal, wise and strong traits, having an oak wand. I'll think about the other three...

I looked up Helga to see what it's meaning is (i know someone said it once...) and it came up with "lucky" do you think that has anything to do with our house?

I always saw Helga as a very powerful witch but she doesn't always show it, and as someone who likes to spend time thinking and what better to do when thinking then gardening!
Question i know i read somewhere yew is condsidered the strongest type of magical wood (perhaps it was in earthsea... ) do you think any of the founders had a wand made of yew?

*Buckbeak rules*

Oh I also looked up "Rowena" and it came up with "joy and fame" incase one of you Ravenclaws cared.

There's a saying, and no, I can't remember from whom, "The harder I work, the luckier I get". Coincidence?

I've read that Rowan wood is supposed to contain many magical properties. And as far as I know it's endemic to England, or Europe at least. Perhaps Helga's wand was Rowan?

Hi Hufflepuffs i'm actually from Griffindor but i thought i would pop in and say hi to all of you because i noticed that people from different houses talk in different house common rooms.

See yas HPfan#1 xx

witchmom most of my wands are handmade....mine is willow wood although i haven't found a runespoor fang yet...thanks for all the hufflepuffians who answered my question...
now how about discussing...cedric...would he have the power to face voldie or anyone of the death eaters in a fight?what do you think???

Of course he would. Cedric would have been co-champion if he hadn't been killed. He never knew what hit him in the graveyard but he was prepared to fight. I've wondered about that. Seems to me they were over powered without much of a fight. They knew something was up and were on guard but still, Cedic was killed and Harry taken captive. Ced didn't have anything like Harry's experience with fighting.

Personally, I think Cedric would have done admirably against some of the DE's, but not been able to do much against LV. Harry has a slight advantage in that department, at least by GOF. Knowing that he'd faced LV three times previously, though once when he was a baby, and survived every time has got to be a bit of a confidence booster. And confidence can help in a fight. It clears your mind, erases fear...things that the normal wizard would experience when facing the greatest dark wizard of all time. So, yes, Cedric would have been good against a typical DE, but not nearly good enough for LV. Just my opinion.

Poor Cedric. He was a very talented boy. He had not yet faced life experiences to make him a man. He had the talent to defeat some of the lesser Death Eaters, but the experience factor was simply not there. He would have been overwhelmed by some of the powerful Death Eaters, and certainly by Voldemort.

The same thing can be said for Harry. Harry is no match in a duel for the powerful Death Eaters (Snape, Bella, huge blond). Harry has learned battle instincts, which will aid him. It is sad that Cedric never had the chance to develop them.

I love talking about Cedric because he is one of my favorite characters. He could have been a huge help against the DEs and LV because he was the best in his year and possibly the most talented student at HW when he was alive. I think he was just taken by surprise when Pettigrew killed him in the graveyard because Wormtail is not very intimidating and doesn't look like he can kill you. Anyway, if Cedric had survived would Cedric have become a member of the Order? Or can he even be in the Order because he was in Hufflepuff? I can't believe the Order would discriminate but I believe all the current members are Gryffindors. I could be wrong though.

I, personally, do not believe that all the OotP members are Gryffindors. I'm sure that they are open to anyone from any house that wants to join, especially if Dumbledore founded them. As to whether Cedric would have joined, I don't know. We never found out what his ambitions after school were so I suppose it's possible that he would want to directly fight the DE's and LV. Or maybe he would have prefered a job at the Ministry, sort of like Percy (without all the prattiness). Just one of those things we will never know.

The world is not split up into Hogwarts houses so I doubt that Cedric would have been discriminated against by the OotP. However I don't think Cedric would have had the reason to join in a fight against Voldemort. Just because there is an enemy out there doesn't meant that everyone is going to do what it takes to defeat it.

Look at the Order. How many members did we really see? 20? Perhaps 30? Out of the entire wizarding world only 20 odd people are doing what they can to completely wipe Voldemort and his followers out of his existance. Most people have the attitude that people today have; let someone else take care of it.

I don't think Cedric would think that way, but the war hasn't become personal to him. It was just getting him involved when he died. Perhaps if he had survived he might see things differently but before his death, I don't see it.

I think Cedric would join the Order if he survived. I mean, like you said, only 20 people out of the whole wizarding world are trying to stop LV. It would be good for the Order to get another member, even if Cedric did just finish school. If he didn't join the Order then he probably would have worked in the ministry like his father, or maybe become an auror. he would be good at being and auror.

If Cedric had survived the Grave Yard, he would have had a reason to fight but if that had never happened, I'm not so sure. He didn't join the DA.

I have to agree with SnakeCharmer74



It is amazing how few people are in the order or DEs. I wonder how many Aurors the Ministry has?

The title for Book 7 is out. I wonder if one of the Hallows is Godric's.

GardenToad,
I'm sure you know already, but I wanted to point out that the reason Cedric didn't join the DA was that he died in GOF, one book before Harry started the DA.But I agree, if he'd have survived in the graveyard, then he'd probably join.

Off topic, I think the Deathly Hollows refers entirely to Godric's Hollow. Sorry Mods!

It's Deathly Hallow's; not Hollow's. Huge difference.

If Cedric had survived the graveyard he wouldn't have been able to join the DA because he was a seventh year in GoF. However, I do see him doing everything he can for Harry and his cause.

Does anyone think that Amos Diggory joined the Order now that Cedric is dead? Granted we don't know everyone who joined, but we do know that those mentioned aren't the only ones.

I would not be surprised if Amos was in the order. I would also not be surprised if Amos was still grieving over Ced's death. About the Hallows, I think they refer to the horcruxes. Hallows are sacred objects, right? It makes sense that Voldemort's sacred objects would be deadly because of curses.

Personally, I was really upset when Cedric died....I was just wondering how everyone felt about the whole Harry being a Horcrux theory? I personally am against this idea. I thought a wizard had to deliberately cast a spell once they have split their soul to store it in an object. Therefore, I don't think Voldemort accidently made Harry a Horcrux without realizing it because it must be done purposefully. But I'm probably wrong...Oh well, any thoughts?

I don't think Amos would have been in the Order because the only positive thing he would bring to the Order is possibly connections at the ministry. I think Cedric would have been a great fit in both the DA and the Order, hes got the skill and intelligence as well as the desire to do something if someone is treated badly.

When I said he would be discriminated against and therefore not be in the Order, I was simply trying to state the fact that I cannot think of a member that wasn't from Gryffindor and I still can't. I don't know if that is a coincidence or it's for a reason. Anyway Cedric would have been a great fit.

Isn't Flitwick a member of the Order? He is a Ravenclaw, so that would be one. Also, Snape was a member. He MAY have betrayed the Order, but he was still in it. Thus, the Order had another member that was not a Gryffindor. I doubt that Dumbledore would descriminate against anyone who wanted to fight Voldemort.

I don't think they mentioned anything about Flitwick being a member of the Order, but I could be wrong. Dumbledore would treat the Order a lot like Harry treated the DA, so no one would really be descriminated against, though they would have to be very loyal and he would have to trust them like he trusted Snape.
As for Snape betraying the Order... I don't believe that he really betrayed them. Sure he killed Dumbledore, but wasn't that just to protect Draco? He did make an oath to Draco's mother that he would help him.



Merry Christmas (to those who cerebrate)

I don't think Snape was really working for the Order. His loyalties were with LV because he connected with the Dark Arts more. I mean can anyone really think of a time when Snape was there when the Order needed him? He was a no-show at the Ministry although the argument can be made that he informed the Order of the situation. However, that could have been a trap because he might have thought that the DEs would have won that fight.

As for the supposed inside information he was getting from DE and LV, He could have just been giving false information like Shacklebolt (or however you spell it) was giving the Ministry about Sirius. So in my opinion, he never worked in the Order's favor, therefore not a true member.

You have to remember that the stories are told from Harry's point of view. We see what he is feeling and how he is feeling and what he sees. Just because Harry doesn't see Professor Snape doing a lot for the order doesn't mean that he isn't.

You said could a lot and that means that we don't know. So we can't say whether or not Professor Snape was double crossing Professor Dumbledore or not. There are many holes in your theory but this thread is not the place to discuss it.

We have to look at other Order members that were mentioned; Nymphadora Tonks, Mad-Eye Moody, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Elphias Doge, Dedalus Diggle, Emmeline Vance, and Hestia Jones. No where does it say that they were all in Gryffindor, or does it even say they went to school at Hogwarts. As we learned in GoF there are more magical schools out there than Hogwarts.

Just because James Potter, Sirius Black, Lily Potter, Remus Lupin, Hagrid, and Professor McGonagall were in Gryffindor doesn't mean that the majority of the people were. We don't even know where Professor Dumbledore was sorted.

SS/Chap6 pg 106 US paperback version

This isn't confirmation; just a thought.

So we can't really say if the Order of the Phoenix chose 'only Gryffindors' but I would guess no; it's an equal opportunity secret society. (is that too much of an oxymoron?)

Whether or not Snape was a true member of the Order. The point is that he was in the Order. As such, we can conclude that Dumbledore and others did not limit the Order to only Gryffindors.

Hey all! I am back, my computer broke down, when the power went out at my house. Anyway I hope everyone is enjoying the holiday season! Ok, I think that whether not Snape was truly in the Order or not, he still was a member, and he probably had to helped at least a little, even if he was on Voldemorts side, he could have been sending false information to the order, like Kingsley was about Sirius.

Dumbledore would most probably except people no matter what house. He trusted Snape who was in Slytherin. Hagrid was in Gryffindor, but got expellled. And I think that GoF showed that Hufflepuff is as good as any house, with honest hard working true qualities. So I think that other order members came from other houses defiantly, and I wouldn't be surprised if they, maybe some, came from different schools.

Ginny

I am sure that some of them did come from other schools. Remember that Bill said that Dumbledore wanted him to recruit as many foreign wizards as possible. It is obvious to me that some of them would have joined. It is also clear that most of them did not attend Hogwarts.

First, I believe DD hints at being a Gryffindor several times. For example, He says that he lit the curtains on fire while he was at school to Harry while in the Gryffindor common room. Also, he has Gryffindor's sword not any items from other founders (except for the fake locket if that counts).

Anyway, DD may have allowed Snape into the Order for a couple of reasons.

1. To keep an eye on him like the saying "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer"
2. His abilites at potions to keep Lupin healthy as well as other uses.

I can't see Snape doing a lot for either DD or LV because he wants to stay neutral until the last possible moment to choose the winning side unless he is forced to make a decision (DD's death)

There is no concrete way to discern this argument unless everyone asks JK for a background history on the Order and everyone that has ever been a member. I'm just commenting on the fact that she never mentions the houses (or schools) that some of the members are from and there is a good possibility that they are from Gryffindor. There could be members from Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff, but I think Snape was the only Slytherin to be a member. Can we at least agree on that?????

No. And I don't mean that to sound trite or anything, but like I had said earlier, these books are only from the point of view of Harry. We don't know who else was in the Order besides those I had mentioned earlier.



Who knows what house each of these people came from? They could have all been from Slytherin for all we know.

Which book did it talk about Professor Dumbledore setting fire to the curtains? I don't recall it, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.

He only has Gryffindor's sword because Harry pulled it out of the hat. It's only in his office for safe keeping.

If I remember correctly, having just read all the books and watched all the movies again, it was that Dumbledore mentioned setting fire to the curtains in the fourth movie right before he told Harry that no spell could reawaken the dead.

I also think, that even though naturally houses have a disliking against Syltherin, doesn't mean that all Slytherins are bad, or evil, or couldn't be in the Order. Look at it this way, Harry was almost put in Slytherin. What if he was, would we still think it was an evil house or something? No probably not because we see it from his point of veiw.

Ginny

The movies and books are different. We should all be well aware of that by now. The movies do make changes. JK said in an interview that James was a chaser. The first movie made James a seeker. The scene about the drapes was another added scene. The books don't tell what Dumbledore's house was, but most people assume he was a Gryffindor.

I don't ever recall hearing his house, but I have always thought of Mundungus as a Slytherin. So that would preclude Snape from being the sole Slytherin. If only it we proven true...

I suppose Mudungus could've been in Slytherin...but not necessarily the typical one. Possibly more like Slughorn. They do collect things, but one of them sells them (not that collecting has anything to do with being in Slytherin). I remember that part about James being a chaser in the book, but why was he reaching for the snitch in Snape's Worst Memory? Or was that just something he liked to do?

I know it's been briefly mentioned before, but I was wondering why Zacharias Smith would be pulled out of school before the funeral. I don't think we talked about it in much depth, if I remember it right. He always seemed like a pompous jerk to me, which I'm sure he got from his parents. However, I cannot imagine that they would care so little for Dumbledore to completely disrespect him by not allowing their son to attend the services.

Sorry for changing the subject, but it seemed we were getting a little off topic and I don't think any of us wants to be shut down here.

I don't think it's a matter of not caring about Professor Dumbledore; I think it's more of they care more for their son. Think about it; if mass murderers broke into the school that your children attended and there would soon be a funeral there for the main protector of that school; a man who everyone thought was unbeatable and unstoppable, wouldn't you want your child out of there as fast as you could?

I know that if I were a parent and wasn't completely wrapped up in the war I would yank my kids out so fast that their heads would spin. Now if I were a Weasley or Luna's father I would probably dig my heels in and allow my children to stay as a show of strength and not letting Voldemort scare me into hiding.

I'm thinking parents like that have their head in the sand. They're covering their eyes chanting, "I can't see you; you can't see me" like a little kid would.

Thoughts anyone?

Yah, I mean it can't be because of just his attitude. His parents want him to be safe where they think he will be safest which is in his home. I mean Seamus Finnigan's mom was trying to get him to leave? But he had a shouting match with her. It's not that she didn't respect Dumbledore, but she wanted him to be at home where she could keep a closer watch on him.

Ginny

As a parent, I suppose my initial reaction would be to pull my daughter out. But after learning some facts I would probably be more inclined to let her stay. Even with DD gone, there are probably fewer places more secure than Hogwarts, especially during the funeral of the greatest wizard of the age, where lots of highly skilled and qualified wizards would be in attendence. No, I personally think there's more to it than just their being overprotective, though I'll admit it is a possibility. I've never liked Zacharias, never trusted him, even from the little there's been about him.

Hey Everyone! I got assaigned to this house just a couplpe of days ago, but i couldnt find this thread. Its kind of weird being in Hufflepuff because in so many other tests i got to be in Gryffindor. But i guess the qestions in this test were also different than the rest of the other test that i have taken. Well im happy to be part of a different house for once!

Well, it looks like this topic is officially buried...not one comment about it in three days. So, I propose a new one. I haven't slept in a while, so here is one completely off the wall topic inspired by Slughorn. What are the teachers and Puffs favortie foods, candies, drinks, etc?

What is Sprout's favorite drink? I envision her being fond of pumpkin juice. Loves the natural flavors. Any others?

I would attend to agree with you Burial. I also feel that Sprout might occassionaly go for a nice warm butterbeer, kinda like a relaxation thing before bedtime. I would think that the house overall would like pumpkin pasties as well.

Well we already know that Trelawney likes cooking sherry. I can see McGonagall drinking gillywater or nettle tea for a most part. And the only drink I see for Cornelius Fudge is red currant rum, I think I read that somewhere before but I'm not entirely sure. As for the students, I believe that a good deal of them like butterbeer or pumpkin juice.
Staying on the drink topic, didn't the books say something about Madam Maxime's horses drinking malt whisky or something to that effect?