Hmm, that is an interesting idea brittlesmile. Draco as Secret-keeper might not be the wisest idea though. After all, his father is Luscious, who is on Voldemort's side and out to get Snape. I dont no if Draco could keep that secret from his father. However on your post on "evil" being applied to one person, Voldemort fits the description perfectly. As you said, if Voldemort found a countercurse for Avada Kedavra, would he let it out in public? Probably not. He would keep it for himself and possibly his Death Eaters. Its an interesting idea. I look forward to your fanfic.

And to you, Patronium, I agree with your idea too. Its an endless debate, the good/evil debate. Some Slytherins are in it because they want the power and want to do anything to achieve it, but that doesnt mean they wont have second thoughts about massacring a whole village of people because they wont give you your way.

Yeah - we are really evil
we don't know what is "good" mean. we know only our power! and we know what we are the best!
Slytherins, do you agree with me?
I’m always fogged at the whole evil/good thing. Life can get so shady grey. Probably as a result my life has had some pretty stupid moments.

For example, let's say that your sister's five children were starving, so you broke a window and stole a loaf of bread from someone who was probably only a little less hungary to feed them. Would that be considered evil?
Somewhat. It’s the sin of pride. Too proud to ask for help, too proud to beg, too proud to rummage through a dumpster.

I'm pretty sure Dumbledore's right in saying that Draco's not a killer.
An unreasonable cold blooded killer he is not. Look back in PoA -The Boggart in the Wardrobe. Draco would be willing to kill to avenge a loved one.

“Of course, if it was me,” he said quietly, “I’d have done something before now. I wouldn’t be staying in school like a good boy, I’d be out there looking for him.”

“Maybe you’d rather not risk your neck,” he said. “Want to leave it to the dementors, do you? But if it was me, I’d want revenge. I’d hunt him down myself.”

There’s an interesting Chinese proverb about revenge. When seeking revenge, dig two graves. One for your enemy and one for yourself.

As for Crabbe and Goyle there’s something that could be said for the loyalty they give Draco. Do you think Ron would willingly cut his snog time and be polymorphed into a girl for Harry? I don’t think so!

Also, I was wondering what everyone thought Snape is going to do in the next book?
die.
unfortunately.
But if you can give glimpses of other possibilities I’m all for it.

I think the likely story for Snape is his eminent death, but I don't rule out the possibility of his living. I'm in the major minority on this one, though. For one, I know JKR has said she likes to try to remain "true to life" in some aspects, particularly in the fairness of situations. Sometimes, in real life-the person who has hurt us the most ends up living. Sometimes they continue on without even casting us a second glance. I also think it would almost be more tragic for him to have to live and deal with the knowledge and pain of what he has done. Of course, a lot of people think his death will be a symbolic sacrifice. I don't know. I'm not sure if Harry would care about Snape's symbol. Unless there's a drastic change-of-heart in the next book towards his former professor.

I am pretty sure that Snape will die because many little kids dont like the idea of Snape living after "Killing" Dumbledore. This is how he will die, in my opinion.

Snape and Harry( along with Ron and Hermione) will meet somewhere, maybe in a small town somewhere in England. Harry will disarm Snape and now Severus will start to try and convince Harry and the others of his innocence by saying that he was in love with Lily and explain himslef for like ten pages of text. Then Harry will lower his wand, but Snape will summon his wand, but Ron will kill him before he can kill harry.

I know it is a little out there but think about it, how else could Harry kill Voldemort, or Snape, if he didnt know how to use the Killing curse. So I think that one chapter in the 7th book, the trio will try out all three of the unforgivable curses on ants. Maybe they could get Dobby to practice on the two less severe curses( Imperio and Crucio) and use Avada Kedavra on enlarged Ants on Spiders on something.

What do you other Slytherin's think about that theory?

Hey Slytherins. Been napping on this couch here most the day. My Poll topic thread is just not coming through. Just as well...

If Harry uses an ‘Unforgivable Curse’ to kill then he has lost. Since when is he judge, jury & executioner? A lazy flick is going to disarm Potter anyway so why spill secrets? Lily to me is something you put on a grave.

I’ve had a ‘drastic change of heart’ myself since last week. I believe Snape is actually going to live to see the final chapter. Although in what shape LV is going to leave him in remains to be seen. I even forgive Narcissa, but Lucius is going to go ballistic on that detail! He’ll come around when the ‘time is right’. I shouldn’t of rush read HBP two months back. I really hated knowing that DD was going to die before even starting. But that’s the perils of the nosey in a noisy web. It was full speed ahead to that key event without much thought. ha! shame on me, I should know better than that.

*snort*

That's pretty fanficcy, isn't it? Funny though.

I remember reading an interview done with Jk where she blanches at the suggestion that Snape was ever in lurve, and that sums up my expectations of Snape.

I think people tend to get confused with the Alan Rickman "Snape" and the book Snape. Alan's Snape is infinitely more likeable than the book Snape I reckon. Book Snape does not seem the sort who would fall in love at all, let alone blub about it over 10 pages of text to one, Harry Potter.

I'm sorry if I sound a bit harsh, I really don't mean to. I'm just having a good chuckle, and its just that it seems so incredibly unlikely. Don't you think?

I don't think the key to Snape's behaviour is unrequited love. I would love to know what it is though.

I'd agree with you on one thing, Razz. . .I don't think Snape's issues revolve around unrequited love either! If it does, I'm sorry but it's LAME! Wah, she broke my heart so I think I'll join the death eaters and stick it to the man. . . I know it doesn't play out like that, but I still think it would be a weak reason for his personality quirks.

Movie Snape is definately more likeable than book Snape, though I am still drawn to the book Snape in his own right. . .good or bad. I wonder why they were allowed to show the movie Snape as a more selfless . . . almost-caring . . . character? Strange. Do you think people who only watch the movies will be surprised when he kills Dumbledore? I think they will. . .

Salazaar, I really don't think that Harry is going to use the AK to kill Voldemort, I'm not even sure if Harry's going to be the one to do it. . .I think he will be the "cause" of Voldemort's death-but not necessarily the one who takes his life. I also don't think that Harry would practice unforgivable curses on ants, much more so Dobby! I haven't seen any indication in his character that would show us that he would do such a thing. .

razzberry 2, passerby I’m with you both. It’s so out…….there. *I step outside for a looksee*

HP - (shouting)You traitor! I hate you, it’s over!
SS – I know you want to kill me and you should…
SS - (slowly) yes, you should..
SS - (whisper) Harry…
SS turns to face HP a single tear falls from SS’s eye.
SS – (stronger)And I want you to. Because…
SS left hand to bowed forehead, lowering wand a slumped and defeated man.
SS – (choking) I have always loved your mother.
VORTEXT – choking in laughter rolling on floor

Holler! I still admire the creative explosion fanfic world takes. I’d be seriously cheesed if JKR’s ink leaked on the ‘lurvie you always’ route. C’mon charm the cheese.

The other fannish mode that drives me nuts is ‘young Snape, the shy Slytherin boy’. Are you crazed? How did they know he had more curses than the 7-years unless he was dishing them out? There was nothing ‘shy’ about juvenile delinquents I’ve gone out with. We knew what we want and we knew how to get it.


Big time horrified. Unless they’re die hard fans.

Nicley done Vortext That or something along the lines of 'Harry... I am your father'..... and every reader in the word simultaneously throwing their books into the fire.

No. I'm sorry- I just can't see it. I'd find it more believable to be told that Lily had a thing for Severus and he rejected HER than vice versa.

I still lose it reading that daft skit. But I know, I just know, someone is reading it and just loving it to death. hi! Tragically my 117wpm fingers really could pop a heart crushing 10 pager. Maybe I’ll get a timer and blind snap a 15 minute for snicks.


Oh yeah. I remember *shakes popcorn over burning book* isn’t that after Snape slices Harry’s hand off and is rescued by his sister Hermione, Hansirius™ & Lupinacca™ on the Weasley’s flying carpet? Why do they make them like used to?


Word.

I’d be happier if JKR didn’t bother clearing anything up.

Well, I’ve just been sorted into Slytherin. I’m a little surprised by this, since I’ve always thought of myself as a Ravenclaw person, but I guess I have certain things in common with the Slytherins also.

Other than who I’m named after, the HP character I’m most similar to is probably Phineas Nigellus Black. (Who was a Slytherin, of course.) The interesting thing about Phineas is that even though he’s arrogant and sarcastic, he isn’t really unfair. The cruelest he’s ever been to Harry was in book five when Harry thought he knew better than to follow Dumbledore’s instructions, which was a legitimate reason for Phineas to insult him. The way Phineas reacted to that shows how much respect he has for Dumbledore; he only expressed it in a rather rude way.

I’m often rather disdainful towards people who I think are acting foolishly, even when I still have their best interests at heart. If Phineas ended up in Slytherin as a result of that attitude, I guess it makes sense that I would also.

The sorting team here are very consciencious in their decision making, often pooling together to arrive at a decision about a particular person, so you're in good hands as far as sorting Mad-eye. I'm glad you can live with being Slytherin at heart.

hehe... I was a little surprised myself when I was sorted in to the House of the likes of Lucius and Draco Malfoy, though I've come to accept, and even be proud of the placing. Being Slytherin doesn't automatically make you a bad person. If it did, the hat would probably be singing about "evil" qualities, rather than cunning, don't you think?

Phineas is a classic example.

You're right in what you say. I can't imagine he would have made Headmaster of Hogwarts if he was just plain wicked. He's a great character really, and he gives a lot more depth to the too easily stereotyped Slytherin.

Sarcasm doesn't make someone evil either. Even Gryffindors and Hufflepuffs can be snarky. (They proved that in books four and five) And I'm pretty certain that everyone has the characteristics to be cruel given certain circumstances, so yeah, I agree with you. It maybe comes down to degrees of negative traits and for what end purpose they are used, as to whether these characteristics can be interpreted as just plain evil.

I swears I thought I was Ravenclaw as well Mad-Eye! But oh no, this firm's resulting Guiding Behaviors Inventory Feedback Report SUCCESS THROUGH EXCELLENCE – Making a Difference Through Leadership feedback report on me leaves me as SLYTHERIN dominant, Ravenclaw guided. Which I think is a good thing. Sure I’m a power fiend but I’m fact guided.

Anyrates, I never bothered with the Sorting Hat here. Here I’ll do question 8. Abandoning kittens isn't Slytherin. I’d be looking for resourcefulness, determination and ‘what’s to be gained here’?

Q8 – Gather up the kitten, don’t bother the pet store. This trembly little thing is a opportune gift.
IF meeting with underling Slytherin – bring to meeting and not say a word about it. Let him sweat it out on what I’m really up to.
IF Gryffindor or Hufflepuff – plop cat in center of table and carry on about how this ill cat represents the poor effort and failures I’ve been seeing from them.
IF Ravenclaw – give cat to secretary before meeting! I don’t mess with the analytical types. I want their information.

Pass cat to secretary, procard, my car keys and directions to take care of this and return with coffee and donuts for the department. Bask in the rumor that I really do have a heart as word spreads over arrived food. Offer cat up to be adopted by someone in office. Take note of which heel-nipper leaps forward first.

(Prays it’s not one suffering with a ‘crush’ on me. I’ll never hear the end of what little ‘vortext’ is doing. *cringe* ew love)

Firstly, welcome Mad Eye. I thought I was a Ravenclaw as well, but I wasn't really shocked when I got sorted into Slytherin. It makes sense that it's a common sentiment, though, since we really do have a lot in common. However, I love the Sorting Ceremony here; it seems very reliable to me. I've always hated those multiple choice ones, since I've never liked any of the choices.
Secondly, I love vortext's answer to question eight. I'm way to lazy to do something like that, but it's an awesome plan.

Also, for a random discussion question, what classes at Hogwarts would you most like to take in your later years?

I'd like to take a bit of potions, because it seems really fascinating and because I like chemistry a lot. I'm a history nerd, too, so history of magic would be fun for me. Divination would be entertaining, but I don't think I'd have any talent for it. However, I would probably like ancient runes or any sort of language course Hogwarts had.

hey everyone even more new members (although they may not be so new now) well thats fantastical. just thought bid pop in and say hello anwayz not been on in ages.

Hello all Slythies!
Haven't been here in ages either.
Seems like their are more people in Slytherin house now, then last time I was here.
Congratulations!
Dark_Lord_ ~ Nice siggie.

*lazy wave & smirk from sofa* Why thank you brittlesmile. Any curve life gives you should be curved back to win.

Question on Hogwarts Classes. I’m all in for Charms. Of interest to me is creation of counter spells. Particularly the ‘Memory Charm’. That freak Gilderoy Lockhart erased the memory of a wizard who actually removed the werewolf trait! Can you imagine the power of turning someone like Greyback into a human again? Er, maybe not quite human in his case, cannibal is more like it. But still, removing LV's werewolf forces could change the tide of war. I want funding to hire and organize my group. Team Goals – Safely remove Memory Charm, Locate Albanian Wizard, Test Homorphus Charm, Distribute successful Charm.

Yes, vortext. . . that is definately something that you should look into. Think of the noteriety you'd receive! After all, that bungling idiot Lockhart had all of those useless awards for doing nothing but a stealing other people's memories!

As for me, I'm more interested in Potions. Mostly because it really doesn't require a lot of magical ability. . .It depends on your observation and concentration; and ability to follow directions when aplicable. . . It would be nice to develop a potion that you could drink to cause your skin to be impenetrable . . . and uneffected by other spells. It might be unethical, though, as I'm sure I'd have to get a hold of some genetic structure from a giant. Hmm. . .


Now for a question to all my fellow Slytherins. Which Slytherin (besides Tom Riddle/Voldemort) could you see as becoming a Minister of Magic and why?

Like a lot of you have said. It would be too basic and cheesey for JKR to write something like "OH I have always love Lily. She rejected me for Potter and so I thought maybe Voldemort would accept me". I have written a fic where Severus does feel love for Lily but its not the reason for him to join the Death Eaters. There must be more behind it. I will be utterly disappointed if Snape's story isnt cleared up. For the past 6 book we have been swaying either side thinking either Snape is good or bad. I dont think that a broken heart alone can turn someone into a Death Eater. I have had my heart broken and yet it hasnt totally changed me as a person. Its just made me cautious of who to trust. I suppose it would be nice to find out that Severus once did harbor feelings for someone...but then I will sort of destroy the character of Snape...I mean he wouldnt really be Snape anymore...Because Snape is not the sort of person to get involved with someone romantically. But what ever JKR does she must NOT I repeat NOT kill him off...or make him and Harry related in some strange and unexplainable fashion. lol

Hello fellow Slytherins!!!! I find here with much pleasure some of the people I've learned to know in the SOSS. Maybe I'm going to say things you've already discussed...sorry.

I've been sorted in this house and I actually had no doubt about it. I feel Slytherin at heart. Of course, I've never thought Slytherins are all bad. Three or four bullies don't make the whole House. I love Slytherins' need for knowledge in every sense, their experimenting which can be...extreme sometimes. They're very close to each other, they're a real group, supporting each other very much. Actually we don't know very much of the other students, just the informations provided by the behaviour of the most on-stage Slytherins -Malfoy, Crabbe, Goyle, Parkinson, Bulstrode, Zabini-. Actually, we don't know so much about the other members of the House. ( I think I'll write a story about Goyle, I've seen hundreds of kids like him in my teaching job and believe me, they're not always as bully as they seem.)
In the books, Slytherin House provides the necessary balance to Gryffindor, like white/black, hot/cold, etc. and maybe that's why it's easy to connect Slytherin with evil and Gryffindor with good. I think that JKR made a great thing in re-balancing the idea people had about Gryffindor with the bad behaviour of Sirius/James etc., showing that what it seems good isn't always good, and evil...well, viceversa. Snape's past, its difficulties and sadness, has helped to re-balance the negative connotation of this character.

Well...what else about loving Slytherin House? I am very linked with the snake too, because it has always been a sacred, wise animal. Only in the last few centuries has been connected with evil. It's been the symbol of knowledge in many cultures, and it represents the cycle of life. Its connections with Woman are many, and many great Goddesses of the past have been Snake Goddesses. I also have a passion for Potions. I make my own incenses with fresh and dried herbs and essential oils according to their properties.

Another little thing: I made a HP laboratory for 6Th grade this year at school, sorting my students into the 4 houses. Slytherins won the cup because, although many of them gained less points for their bully behaviour, the most of them worked like crazy -especially the girls- gaining hundreds of points for their excellent results.
Since the students seemed to like it so much, next September I'll do the same laboratory starting from 4th grade.

Witchmom )O(

Remember guys not all Slytherin's are evil...just because the majoroty are we can be the minoroty who arent(along with Snape ) In most of the tests i have taken to see what house I have been sorted into it been Slytherin though i did get Ravenclaw too. But I suppose Im not a perfect Slytherin then but still i have a lot of Slytherin qualities

I don't really agree with the majority being bad. First of all, in a House there are at least 70 students, if memory helps me, and we know...the Quidditch team? some other students? they're 10 in total. more or less. And, actually much of the Slytherin's images in the books are "filtered" through a Gryffindor POV, feelings by Hermonione or Ginny or Harry or Ron towards an approaching Slytherin (I know that sometimes they can be really bad..)...
This means that maybe the real Slytherins are not that bad. You know, sometimes when you walk through an unknown street, you feel as everybody wants to hurt you. But when you get to know it, you realize that maybe they all were minding their businesses, if the image is clear.

Witchmom )O(

Hey Everyone,

Newest Slytherin here I think!

Love this house, always been sorted into Slytherin on every site I've been on.

I think Slytherins are just proud of where they come from and everyone should be.... there's nothing wrong with a little pure-blood mania!!

Hello, new Slytherins. I hope you enjoy the house. As to vortext's question, I don't know if a Slytherin would ever be Minister of Magic. It seems like most of the British wizarding world went to Hogwarts where Slytherins were unpopular and overcoming that opposition would be very hard. Much easier to do what Lucius did and make friends with the minister, then slowly take control of their actions. That way, you can control the Ministry from behind the scenes and no one will know.

Welcome Lei - maybe 8 generations ago it worked, but as time passes the choices are getting very limited.


Hello witchmom - The Snake is also the symbol for immortality. And a freaking nuisance when your space becomes snake infested. I woke 3am with a wild snake curling up to me to keep warm. I swear these things only happen to me.

So many potion master-to-bes! I’m awful at identifying plant life. I get bewildered at all the varieties.

Brittlesmile in da House! You know I can not take credit on it, that’s passerby’s query. You’ve got a good point about being behind the scenes. I have been thinking about the question as well.
Unfortunately we know so few Slytherins. And JKR is determined to keep them harsh, unattractive and suspect of every awful thing. Due to the limited prospects I’ll back Narcissa Malfoy. Managing Lucius and protecting her son at risk works for me.

Here’s my question! Do you think the four houses will join in Book 7? The Sorting Hat had it’s say about wanting to completely end the sorting tradition in OotP.

I have a slight suspicion that Draco will join with Harry and friends in book 7. I think some of the Slytherins may realise that they don't want to be killers and that it's not something to take as lightly as they seem to. At least Draco seemed to realise that at the end of HBP.

Maybe this is just wishful thinking because I love Malfoy's character and want to see more of him!

I woke 3am with a wild snake curling up to me to keep warm. I swear these things only happen to me.

I think it's a blessing rather than a cursing....

So many potion master-to-bes! I’m awful at identifying plant life. I get bewildered at all the varieties

You should try...I was terrible too, but now I walk around in gardens and woods and fields screaming "That's angelica! that's hypericum! that's melissa! that's absinthium!". And I'm still studying, actually it takes at least 4-5 years to know properly some herbs' properties (magical and healing) and their usage.

Narcissa Malfoy. Managing Lucius and protecting her son at risk works for me.

I don't really love her, but I respect her for her strong love for Draco. And envy her for being so close to Snape

Here’s my question! Do you think the four houses will join in Book 7?

I don't really know, maybe it could be a good idea. Anyway I like Malfoy jr. too, so I'd like to see him on Harry's side. I don't exactly go for the Dark Lord.

Witchmom )O(

I have two thoughts on this: I think that somehow the houses will have to unite, whether it be the houses entirely, or certain members of the houses working together, remains to be seen: But there will definately have to be some interhouse unity...or JKR could have just added that as another of her red herrings. . .not likely, but possible.

Second thought. . .I've found it interesting in the dynamics of Gryffindor that JKR has included someone who shines with characteristics from the other houses (even in just looking at Harry's contemporaries). . .Hermione-Ravenclaw, Ron-Hufflepuff, I'll say Harry-Slytherin, but I also think Wood (as shortlived as his career in the series was) also fits in a Slytherin mentality as his greatest desire is to win his quidditch matches and the house cup, oh, and of course Percy as thus far seen. . .Even as they are all sorted in the house of Gryffindor; they're particular character traits are prevalent and makes me feel like there is already some sort of House Unity going on on a sublevel.

Perhaps the sorting hat won't even have to sort for book 7-either refusing or indicating that Harry will not be returning. . .no hogwarts; no sorting; no houses.

Just ramblings, really. . .

This is a brilliant intuition, Passerby.

I wonder if some of us is really, completely Slytherin. Each human -and magical- being is made of a thousand shades of tastes, opinions etc. I think it's impossible to be totally white or totally black.
Myself, if I go back with memories, when I was 15 or 17, I have the strong suspicion I would have been sorted into Gryffindor. Now, I am sure that the Slytherin choice is perfect, even if I have some Ravenclaw aspects in me, like the I-have-a-perfect-mind, and others typically Hufflepuff's, like the hard working on things I really care of.

Witchmom )O(

Will the Houses unite?

If there is a Hogwarts, then I think they will, but it won't be an easy transition - most likely gradual - brought together through frightening events and fear. But certainly not all of the Slytherins will throw themselves in the melting pot. It would be interesting to find out who does though. Draco can't be at Hogwarts in book 7 anyway, unless he's there steathily. I hope he has a fairly major role in the last book. He's such a bloody good character. The films have relegated him to a bumbling idiot, but there's so much more to him. I hated the little puke until book five - then I loved to loathe him because of his obvious pleasure at being in the inquisitorial squad, and after HBP, I actually managed to go into empathy for him. Made me like him much more as a character and his role in the books. I have to admit I pitied him on the tower. Sorry... rolling off topic.

I guess if there is no Hogwarts, then House unity would be pointless as I can't imagine the adults allowing the students to band together and help fight. I've read a number of fanfics where that happens and I just can't see it. They're kids after all. And its not like a world war where they start conscription to get numbers. There's only a very limited number of Death Eaters after all. So no. The kids won't band together if not at school. This'll be a war of tact. Voldemort will be after those who he can either control or topple. Like Dumbledore. Sorry, straying again...

Hello All!
I was just sorted into Slytherin and I couldn't be happier.

I suppose I'll throw myself right into the discussion then, shall I?

Will the Houses unite?

Well, will there be a school at all?
At the end of HBP the teachers are discussing whether the school will be reopened again, and Hagrid states that if there are children who want to be taught by him he will teach them.
I see there being a possibility that there will be so few children in the school (if any at all) that the use of houses will be superfluous. I think many parents let their children stay in the school because they thought it a safe place – because of Dumbledore and because of the school itself being impenetrable. Now it has been proven to not be as safe as once thought… perhaps many parents will take the safety of their children into their own hands.

Welcome Lamia!!Welcome to the proud Slytherin House!
Your name is really beautiful. In arabic it means "with coloured lips" but it is also a mythological name of a very special being with female head and animal body. (this is to say that not only Ravenclaws are clever bookworms.... )

I'm sure the school will reopen again. It seems that Hogwarts is a safe place after all, more than private homes.

House unity...well, many signs seem to bring things and people there. I think anyway that the unity must be something that students and professors feel inside and not simply established as a rule from the high authorities. Unity is more similar to a feeling than to a law. A big event, something really important seems necessary to make the houses gather under the same symbol. Maybe the final battle against Voldemort?

Witchmom )O(

Ah, it's good to be back!
This is a good discussion going on, about inter-house unity.But before I say anything, a hearty welcome to all the new Slytherins!
I think that Hogwarts will definitely re-open,I mean ,it's supposedto be the best magic school in the world..but about inter-house unity, I am not so sure.If history has taught us anything, it's that prejudices take a very long time to die out..and the whole school's been prejudiced against Slytherin for a very long time. Not that we haven't done anything to deserve it(in all fairness).

Though condemned am I to split you,
Still I worry that it's wrong.
Though I must fulfill my duty
And must quarter every year,
Still I wonder whether sorting
May not bring the end I fear.

I think the hat should stop whining and just eat itself to terminate forever Hogwart’s Sorting Hat ceremony. Now we’re all one big happy school. *grimace* I mean tap-clap yay.

Good to have you back NewDarkLord. You’re right, we don’t deserve it! Who did this to us anyway? The next question has got to be -

Is our house’s evil rep justly deserved?
I say no. I look at our prominent members.

Draco wanted to be friends with Harry but gets snubbed. I actually think DD froze charmed Harry to show Draco isn’t his enemy on the tower. Yes Harry, lions and snakes can be friends like I am with Severus.

Vincent Crabbe & Gregory Goyle extremely loyal friends who keep their mouths shut. Spying as females shows huge faith. I'm willing to bet more intelligent than expected. Watching Luna just about kill herself laughing makes me wonder if she was really laughing at Ron’s assumption that Goyle was a stupid baboon.

Now Severus Snape had to deal with a lot of hassle and zero compassion from Dumbledore on the plans. As head of house, Slytherin did win House Cup and Quidditch for a number of years under his guidance. Snape’s a tough teacher and Harry’s just a lazy student so no wonder there’s conflict.

Okay, I know some are thinking Lord Voldemort is evil and there’s no way I can slink my way around this one, but I can. I can laud some blame on Dumbledore for his treatment of Tom Riddle. Instead of showing him a source of wonder and inspiration as proof of magic, DD has a wardrobe erupt in flames! Then he furthers his needling by believing Tom is always up to no good. When LV returns to his old teacher to share what he has learned, DD snubs him cold. DD may be a great wizard, but he’s a lousy manager.

I think Slytherin’s are misunderstood, poorly communicated to and undeservedly viewed as evil. Hopefully in Book 7 it will be shown how it’s us who ultimately save both school and wizarding community. So what do you say to that Slytherins?


& now to stretch out and do a little kibitzing here ~

Sure witchmom. It meant I didn’t have cockroaches. I was willing to sacrifice much back then. I made my own fortune since those days and I’m despised for it.

See, but Slytherin, by it's very core belief that only pure-bloods should be taught, has also been prejudice against the school for a very long time. It is in no way a "poor misunderstood slytherin" grudge. . .they have been elitist and sanctimonious. However, Slytherins are not inherently bad people. They just embody certain characteristics that lead the hat to place them in Slytherin (be it thier ambition and cunning, or some other darker reason. ..I tend to think it the former).

As far as Draco being snubbed by Harry. From the get-go in the robes shop, Harry had a feel for Draco and where his priorities were. Then, insulting Ron's family was the icing; and Draco received the much deserved Potter-snub. I think that Draco embodies the ideal Salazaar Slytherin persona from the past (and his father more-so). . .pure-blood at any cost; and all that yadda yadda. Who knows, however, how Godric and Salazaar actually got along. . . I've got some wonderful friends who don't believe in or see everything quite the way I do. Doesn't make us arch-enemies, though. It's more grounds for learning and understanding; even if we never accept eachothers' beliefs.

Slytherins don't deserve the bad rep they get, on the whole. . .but they do have a tendancy to be the darkest wizards; so perhaps they ought to be guided a little better while at school. . . Hard to say what will influence the choices a person will make on individual levels.

I’m not 100% sure on that. The Black family tapestry went back only 8 generations. Something must of happened to during that slot of time to cause the pure-blood mania. Now if tapestry went back 1,000 years I’d believe it’s completely true. Salazar was concerned about outsiders bringing non-magic people into the ‘know’.

I reality translate the pure-blood thing to current Filthy Rich Firm. Heavy on the internal promotions(pure-blood) and all newly hired(mud-bloods) are suspected of leaking our secrets.


My theory is Godric leapt into unwise situations and Salazaar got him out of trouble. And if Salazaar found himself in a tight situation Godric boldly came to the rescue.

Draco said only what was true! Hand me down robes, red hair – you must be a Weasley. How is that offensive when it's all true? And it came out only after having his name laughed at.

Who gave us this bad rep?? We don't deserve it.

I base the "core belief" comment on the sorting hat. . telling us how Slytherin thought that only pure-bloods should be taught. What's the line from the poem in Order?



I'm not saying it was his only condition, but it was certainly a core belief (hence the chamber and the basalisk).


Also, as far as the name calling. . .didn't he say to Harry "You'll soon find out that some wizarding families matter, and others don't." or something to that effect. I think there's a lot of tonal issues we miss. . .I'll have to check the book again just to see. The movies and the books get jumbled.

I'm looking at the reason why Salazaar wanted the pure-bloods. I believe Secrecy is the prime motivator.

You know passerby cross confusion happens to me as well. Movie–Harry laughs, Book-Ron laughs. At least I think it did! Book-Draco adds line about ‘his father told him’. Now his father should’ve also told him not to reveal his sources! I’d be more mad about that slip than anything else

Is our house’s evil rep justly deserved?
Definitely, no. As I have already said, nothing states clearly that ALL slytherins are stupid, ot violent, or rude. This is the other people's point of view. Among about, say, 70 Slytherins in the House we know only 6 or 7 names because they are mostly in personal conflict with Harry and his friends. What about the others? Or what about the motivations of Crabbe and Goyle's rudeness? being treated as raw meat without brains maybe is not the better way to develop a kind behaviour towards the world. I know they can be scary but who is loving them? who's trusting them? who's helping them with homeworks?

And now some considerations...I have to write a lot, sorry, because I'll stay only a few days home and I'll go back to my sea exile (no phone-no internet).

Actually even in the real wizarding world, being hereditary witches is something that is seen with a bit of envy. It means that you have breathed magic since you were...an embryo! it means you live in a "protected area" and you had access to magic since your most tender age. Draco is a good Occlumens as Snape himself realizes, and he's only 16. It means that a pureblood starts to practice magic and to learn the basics well before a half-blood or a muggle; and that the use of magic is better centered and determined by centuries of family habits, bringing honour and wealth to these families (yes, maybe with some exceptions...).

Furthermore, the reason of fearing the bringing "new" people into the secrecy of magic seems to be right, because there's also an aspect of sacredness in magic, and some people want only to play with it. In the real witches world, the apprenticeship lasts years, especially in the oldest Traditions. You are not allowed to practice magic at higher levels before you have learned the basics and you are sumbmitted to strict rules; you enter magic step by step, and it is needed a great patience and commitment. Of course, muggleborns and halfbloods are less into this aura of sacredness -not necessarily with a religious meaning-, seeing magic more like a subject of study.

What saves muggleborn wizards is the ability of commit themselves to the studies that can fill the gap between the DNA-environment derived abilities of the purebloods; and this confirms again that hard work and study are necessary to become a good wizard -good also as a person-. And muggleborns and halfbloods have, in this sense,. the same chances of a pureblood. Indeed, being HP a very multicultural, multiethnic, equal opportunities saga, everyone has got his/her chance to find his/her place in the world...and every attempt to consider purebloods better that halfbloods or muggleborns is condemned.

I would also point out that, in the muggle world, being a pureblood means something...see how the tabloids show every kind of news about the noble european families. Draco for example is like a young prince, ...excited but stressed by the idea of becoming king someday.

Witchmom )O(

Hello! I'm in Slytherin, um, well, Slytherin suits me because I'm evil.
Well, I'm wondering about Salazar Slytherin and his kin. Wasn't it true that Merope, the mother of Voldemort, was a relative to Slytherin?

Who's there?

Yes Merlop Voldemorts mother was related to Slytherin which is why he was the heir in the second book. Merlop was the great great grand daughter of Slytherin I think.

Hey, vortext! THe reason Salazar Slytherin wanted all Pure bloods in his House (Slytherin), is that everyone pureblood could actually 'fit in,' and his House would be 'dominant.' But people don't do this;

To Salazar with 'Salazar' on the sign besides Jerry!

hello fellow Slytherins! i haven't been on Veritaserum very long and i just got sorted into Slytherin so im very excited! i think the reason Slazar wanted pure-bloods in his house is because he was a pure-blood mania guy just like the malfoy's and the gaunt's and voldemort! so no one else was good enough to be in his house...

Everythings OK, Im here. ok, now in my opinion, Salazar wanted only purebloods in his house for a reason, now at the moment, this reason escapes me. but ill think of it some day. ok i got one. His reasoning was probably due to the fact that everyone elses house let in muggle borns. Lets look at it.

Gryfinndor: brave, true of heart, loyal.

Ravenclaw: Cunning, intelligent

Hufflepuff: Generally good people, friends, whoever wasnt fitting into another house that well.

Therefore, to be different, Slytherin had to have something that defined his house. Made him above the rest. this form of thought helped to produce the "Im better then you, you filthy mudblood" thing. so therefore Slytherin's roster had to look something like this.

Slytherin: Get above everyone else. Do whatever it takes to win.

There you go. Thats my theory. I am, after all, the one, the only, Infamous_Hat

I know why Slytherin wanted all Purebloods in his House! He wanted it so to where the Slytherins (purebloods) wouldn't feel wrath of the Basilisk! The Basilisk will 'kill' all the students except for the Slytherins!

So in a way he would be half way good b/c he was thinking that he would not kill eveyone. But I thought he was bad so then he would want "mudbloods". But I am a Ravanclaw just trying to help

Actually, Bitten by a Zombie, I don't think that the basilisk was that selective. It did happen to petrify Nearly Headless Nick, and though we don't know his exact ancestry; he was a ghost. I think that anyone who looked into the eyes of the basilisk would be killed. . . .the thing that made it go after muggle-borns was the heir of Slytherin; because only the heir of Slytherin could control it.

Storm10115, just a side note; please try not to use netspeak and abbreviations. They're very difficult for some of our members who don't use English as their native language to translate, even when they seem simple. We have a list of approved abbreviations in Newbies Central (there's a link in my signature). b/c should be written out to "because." Thanks so much!

I want to know if the House Elves were feeding that Basilisk critter. They must of known about it. It probably had a hearty appetite looking at all the bones lying about. Maybe it ate kitchen scraps and old House Elves. Dead now, did anyone harvest it for magical parts? I’d so volunteer for that! Hand me that there scythe Slythies and let’s get there first! It’s got to be good for something. Probably tastes like chicken! But lets test it on the Gryffindors first. Ah, house unity~ let it be!

You know, a thought occurred to me. I didn’t think Salazaar was such a ego maniac to have a giant sized head of himself in the Chamber. And those snakey pillars looked very 1920’s Egypt~mania. hmmmm, was old Grindelwald a parselmouth…I wonder.

Referring to Salazar's ideas, I think that every human being likes to be part of a "special" group. Also wizards...
In Europe for example, being the equivalent of purebloods is still quite valued; just look at the gossip magazines! People who have a nobility title (that means simply that you can trace back the roots of your family to very far times) usually are valued more, simply because they belong to those "purebloods" and not for personal merit.
I know this by my personal experience, since my mother's family is one of those "purebloods" families.
Salazar thought that being part of a group was enough to gain merit. It's not a weird thought, in our world is very common: blood, money, job, cultural merits, all is good to separate people from others, and to say "I'm better than you". How wrong...

Witchmom )O(

hi! Thought I'd add my piece here.
I personally feel that Slytherin's high-and-mighty attitude is only part of the reason they are loathed by the rest of the school. First, there's the jealousy factor-Ravenclaw and (especially) Hufflepuff can't really measure up to us. Gryffindor are our competitors, so no chance of friendship there. Gyffindor and Slytherin both have enormous egos, so there will always be conflict.So who's left?
No-one.