It makes perfect sense McKenzie. It all boils down to where the ancestry began, I can trace my own ancestry back to 1600's in America when the Pilgrims came over ( unfortunately I have no "blue0blood" in my family *sigh*) Like with the families in Slytherin, their ancestry dates back so far, and yes if at any time in the line, a mudblood or a squib were in it they would have probaly been wiped clean off the slate so that noone else would be the wiser about them being related to any "undesirables".

Since they are 'wiping the slate clean' as Marcey stated, then they have no 'record' of having muggle or squib blood in their family line. This is like people in the South in the early 1900's (of the US) denying they had ancestors who were black slaves. Now, I'm not generalizing, I'm being generic; please notice the difference and don't flame me.

A lot of 'blueblood' Southern familes simply don't acknowledge 'Negro' blood in their lines and voila! It doesn't exist. That's the way these 'pureblood' wizards are as well. Except they are literally blasting the 'blemish' off their tree. tee hee. If only it were so easy *grinning wickedly* Not that I would blast anyone off my family tree....*looking around guiltily*

Lol McKenzie. I'm sure you wouldn't do that....would you? *scoots a little away from McKenzie...just to be on the safe side*

This reminds me of "I see not; I hear not; I speak not", a proverb of sorts from...I can't remember where.... I'm terrible with quoting stuff...I never remember their sorces. Basically, it is exactly what it says: I don't see it, I don't hear it, it ain't happening. Unfortuantely, that doesn't stop it from being the truth. Time cannot erase itself and in the words of Lady Macbeth "what is done cannot be undone"(Macbeth V, i, 71)

~PhoenixTears

Here no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Like the little monkeys with their hands respectively on their eyes, ears, and mouths.

So that brings us back to the original question; how pure does your blood have to be to be considered a pure blood wizard? Do they have a set time frame, or is it whatever?

Technically Harry could be considered a pureblood because his mother was a witch and his father was a wizard. There you have it. That's how far his ancestory goes; one generation.

I've only just been sorted into Slytherin, so I thought I'd join this conversation if that's ok?!

As I recall, the sorting hat very nearly did put Harry into Slytherin, saying that he would be great there. But is that because he is a pureblood wizard (as far back as his mother and father anyway), or is it because he has grown up with many of Lord Voldemort's traits, such as being a parselmouth etc? Maybe the hat sensed some of the powers Voldemort transferred to Harry when he tried to kill him, or am I just talking rubbish?!

Hi another newbie slytherin here

Well as far as I can tell from the hp series Purebloods (like the malfoys etc) only have wizarding blood in the family which counts out Harry

Yes there will always be a big debate about how many times purebloods can breed before it becomes inter-breeding but if there are enough it could last for a very long time - well as long as you have big families.

And just to clear things up anout me I am a very newbie hp reader and haven't really thought in depth about things like this before but has it been cleared up how a wizard/witch can come from muggle parents - is it a dormant gene in some people or is it some kind of evolution process????

(yeah that'll get a lot of laughs but its just something i've wondered since reading about hermione being from muggle parents)

But wasn't Harry chosen by Lord Voldemort because he thought that a hlaf-blood would be more of a threat to his ascention to world domination then a pureblood, Neveille? Wouldn't that say that blood ancestry goes beyond one generation? Also, theories have been formed surrounding the union of the three blood types specified in the HP world: pureblood (Ron), half-blood (Harry) and muggleborn (Hermione). It has been said also that they also each have the three types of wand cores used by Ollivander: unicorn hair (Ron), phoenix feather (Harry) and dragon heartstring (Hermione). The number three is also said to be a very powerful number as its association with the Christian Trinity --but this is off-topic. Oops, sorry people. Point made; I'll end the post here....

~PhoenixTears

Yes, Voldemort went for Harry because he was a half blood like himself. He saw that as a threat, so he went for Harry instead of Neville. And to me, Blood generation has to go far back enough so you can hide the muggles to be a pureblood. I don't mean to make that prejudiced, but thats what they'd want to do, brag about how far back they've been pure.

as for being muggleborn and in slytherin, I doubt it. if maybe a squib got married to a muggle, had a normal child, that child married a muggle and they had a kid who was a wizard, maybe, but I doubt someone like Hermione would go in slytherin. you need to know what slytherins are about, which means you have to have a wizard relative. so I doubt there are muggle borns in slytherin. half bloods and pure bloods, sure, but not muggle borns.


marauderishly yours,

madmarauder

Hi lovely Slytherins,
it's been a while....busy weeks.



Me too, I had already said that. It would go against the rules of the House itself.

I am wondering what the real reason for Slytherin's reputation is. I am writing a fic and I am exploring the reasons of this attitude. Is it really necessary? aren't they able to obtain things without aggressiveness? and, why are they aggressive, given as premises that not ALL Slytherins are this angry? do they feel menaced? by who?

Clara, i think that slytherins reputation comes from the way salazar slytherin thought when the four founders were alive. this is important, because of the way that the sorting hat puts people into houses. if people like tom riddle, snape and countless other death eaters had not all been in slytherin, its reputation as an 'evil' house would not be as well broadcasted. of course the reputation goes back longer than 50 or so years, but you can imagine the type of people that were put into slytherin before voldemort etc.

i feel a ramble coming on...

so, originally the reputation must of come from salazar but it would of probably been forgotton or at least not as obvious as it is if the sorting hat didn't exist.

as for the people in slytherin, jkr tends to focus on the 'slytherin personified' persons belonging to slytherin, the true and complete slytherins. she focuses alot on conflict between the slytherin and griffindor pupils and this wouldn't be affected if she talked alot about the less slytherinish pupils and the less grifindorish pupils, if she talked about the quieter less involved ones.
the people that are definetly slytherin (now S) may feel the pressure to be quite evil and be a true S. especially the ones from big pureblood families like D.Malfoy etc.

MAYBE...they feel as though they have to live up to the expectations that not only their fellow S have of them but also students from other houses. G, R and H are much friendlier with eachother than S. if a student wa rejected from slytherin they would hve nowhere to go.

i know, i rambled. excuse me though i'm on medication.

Phoenix, the theory is amazing and brilliant and I loved it. I'll do some researches about this suggestion!! I want to know more.

I don't think that explaining the roots of a theory is completely off-topic... I wanted to say that the symbology of the number three existed LONG before the christianity. Our culture tends to forget that we had 10.000 years of great cultures before year 0...
Many Gods and Goddesses were in the number of three. To name spme among the most important: Hecate Trivia, the Nine Muses (multiple of 3), the Indian Trimurti. Christianity has simply overwritten a common thought, that 3 is a magic, symbolic number. Indeed, the first Christians -until year 200 a.C.- were dualists, not trinitarians...They elaborated the doctrine of 3 just after a few centuries.

By the way, this symbology is ancient and well buried in our subconscious. So, praise to JKR's mind for elaborating a scheme so...sophisticated, culturally speaking.

As well as the serpent (this is undoubtedly IN topic... ) which is commonly considered a symbol of evil. The snake is linked to Lilith and Eve, the first women and prototypes of sinners. Practically, the snake is a feminine symbol, and its bashing meant...."let's teach those women a good lesson on how they have to know their place". At least this was the original meaning...then it was automatically connected with evil. I hope now you all feel a different energy in the snake's symbol...

Sorry if I went off topic, I'll be happy to discuss it in private.

Hello all. I just got sorted into Slytherin. I must say it came as a shock. Nothing against Slytherin, I just never thought me to be Slytherin material. Snakes just aren't my thing. Well, at least I'm in good company. Anyway, I don't think Snape is a bad guy. I think it is all a cover. That is why he screamed at Harry to not call him a coward at the end of the 6th book.

It is shown that the students of Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, and Hufflepuff tend to be more friendly towards others than those stusents in Slytherin. But does it say anything anywhere that Slytherins are nice at all? I mean look at all of the Slytherins past and present...Lucius Malfoy, Snape, Bellatrix..none of them have ever been voted as the nicest person out there. And then you have Draco, who is so much like Lucius it is'nt even funny. Most Slytherins enjoy being mean to others or intimidating them into doing what they want.
The four houses of Hogwarts are sort of like modern schools, you have the nice guys (Gryffindors), the book smart kids (Hufflepuff), the inbetweens (Ravenclaw) and the meanies (Slytherin). I believe again that the Slytherins are placed in that house because of the abilities and the characteristics that they possess. You would not find someone like Ron in Slytherin, just like you would not find Draco in Gryffindor or Hufflepuff. Each person's charactor and attitude plays a big part into which house they get sorted into.

Oh, come on! I'm not from the 'mean' crowd in school! What am i doing in Slytherin? No other sorting hat has ever sorted me into slytherin! I guess I shouldn't have said when I was posting on the sorting hat earlier on that I would've punched Malfoy earlier on than Hermione did. He'd totally deserve it, tho. However, JKR said that Malfoy wouldn't have killed Dumbledore in the 6th book. Whose side do you think he'll be on in the 7th book?

Hello Slytherins, Im from Gryffindor, just was reading along and this caught my eye!

I was just wondering when did it say this?



or did you mean not nice, and if you meant nice I dont think thats true, maybe some of them but so far every Slytherin that has been mentioned is a total.. yes, well. No offence to you guys of course but yeah.

As for Draco going to a side, I think he'll go back to the good side because he realised it was wrong and that he really looks up to Harry! Why do you think he picks on him all the time?

Welcome to the quiet Slytherin side then!! We're intelligent, dedicated, and friendly!!! and aggressiveness isn't our major trait.

I agree, when someone acts so silly, it's really...owned. Draco can be really stupid sometimes, but he doesn't know any other way of interacting with people. It's not his fault, it's his family's.
I have a student that, when he wants to show his affection towards his classmates, he punches-kicks-pinches-slaps them. Smiling with great tenderness. He really doesn't know how to express his feelings in other ways.
So maybe Crabbe and Goyle, or Draco too, don't know other ways of behaving.
But it's not their fault.

About Draco, he's hidden somewhere now. Fanfics have depicted his exile in every possible way. I hope he will be on the side of the Order, joining it. I won't say on the "good" side, because when people kill or use violence, even for "good" reasons, it's not clear anymore who's on the "right" side. It's all a matter of perspective.
Let's say, I hope he will be opposite Voldemort.

I mean I totally agree with you, look at his snobby mom and father, then his father is just stupid and to top it off they deal with the darker side of things, hes confused and thats how he was brought up, kind of like weight issues, they shoved food at you when you were a baby so you think its right to keep eating, wow offtopic but it is the same thing.

Ok to clarify something here real quick, when I said that the four houses were sort of like schools from today, I did not mean that every person sorted into these houses neccessarily met these characteristics, this was just a comparison with how the people in the 4 houses are vs kids in todays school systems, not that it is exactly like that just making comparisons...
And as for the comment I made about Slytherins being nice at all....What I was trying to make a point of about that, do any of the Slytherins act as nice as kids from the other houses? From the Slytherins that we know of I would say no...Thats all that I was saying about that, hope that it was not taken out of context....
I agree that Draco's behavior has alot to do with the way he was brought up. His mother coddled him and always gave him whatever he wanted, and all his father was concerned about was trying to make Draco into another Death Eater like himself. So either way he goes, he is being pulled in many directions. But in some ways the things that Draco has done are a bit dumb and even inmmature, but this is how he is, and he uses what he has grown up learning from home as a way to get by with things and to intimidate people, that is just how he is..
I do hope that in the final book that Draco turns good and comes over to the good side and help defeat Vody, but then again you can never tell with Draco, he is a hard one to pinpoint down exactly....

Yes but look at Harry, hes been trying to be dragged into joining Voldemort, saving the world and ridding Voldemort, dealing with Cedrics death. I think Draco has the choice but hes just confused right now from what is right and wrong.

You are right about Harry, Spencer Potter, he does have alot on his plate to deal with. But Draco, because of his family background is also being pulled into directions that he may or may not want to be pulled in...First of all, he is trying to be the big bad guy, by taking orders from Voldy, but secondly he knows if he fails, he could lose his life, and also dissapoint his father. I do think he is confused in one sense and may have realized after he got in too deep that he has bitten off more than he can chew, but in the long run hopefully he will come to his senses and realize where his true loyalties lie,,,we can only hope anyway.

I think that Malfoy was just living up to the expectations of being in slytherin and being a malfoy - His family are death eaters and so are many other slytherin's.

If the other Death eaters (and Snape for those people who believe he is still a good guy) hadn't shown up I don't feel that he would have killed dumbledore and that DD would have tried to protect him and his family - so maybe Draco will turn against the death eaters as it sounds quite possible


on another subject regarding snape - DD was pretty much fine at the end of book 6 and chatting away like no-ones business to Malfoy and the other DE's but once Snape comes up he says severus in a (cant remember how JKR put it) but a scared quivering voice

does that mean he knew snape was going to kill him?, because he didn;t sound scared faced with 4(?) DE's just when snape came up the stairs

does that add to the DD and snape came up with the idea to get snape back into LV's closer circle of friends (using that term loosely)

hmmm.. there has been lots of discussions as to whether Dumbledore and Snape planed it all and i think it may be a possibility. When Dumbledore stops harry from moving at the end of HBP, he may not only of been doing it to save harry, but to make sure he didn't accidently ruin the plan.
But, i do believe that Dumbledore's fear was real. Even if he had known Snape was about to kill him, planed or not, he would of been scared. he said he would not fear because he was with Harry, but now he had to leave him. he would be scared more for harry and his future than for himself, as is Dumbledores way. he would be concerned, up untill the last second, for Harry's saftey, as he always valued that above his own.
anyway, thats a bit off the track..

I do agree that Draco would not of Killed dumbledore. Draco always did everything out of fear. he joined the death eaters because he was scared of his father, continued to serve because he was scared for his own safety, and then agreed to kill DD because he was scared for the safety of his family. when DD offered him protection- safety, he may of realised that even if he was scared, there were better ways out of it than killing somebody.

this could also be applied to many other Death eaters that served out of fear rather than hate for muggles etc, they could easily be turned from Voldemort if they believed they could be kept safe. obviously this wouldn't work with people like Bella who is just pure evil, but voldemort would lose at least hald of his army if they were offered even the chance of safety.

As for Snape, as a true death eater he could not be turned from Voldemort because of his dedication and determination, and as a spy for dumbledore he would not stop for his own safety. he is not afraid of danger and seems to have a thirst to provehimself (oh that is what the sorting hat said about harry in book 1!!!) and this may be why he hates to be called a coward.. because of the danger he faces every day.

opps i went off a bit...

Even if Snape had not shown up when he did I still don't think Draco would have had the heart to kill Dumbledore, he did not have it in him. He puts on a big front about what a tough guy he is, but if he had had the heart to do it, he would not have wated his time in standing around having idle chit chat with Dumbledore. He could not do it that is why he did not do it.
I also think Draco will trun against the DE in the end and come to the good side to defeat Voldy, Lucius is in Azkaban and can't really influence Draco now....

although i do think that lucius did influence Draco, i think Draco did it more to protect his family, than please them...
didn't all of the death-eaters break out of azkaban anyway?
i may be wrong though...

I am sure that Draco won't join Voldemort. In the very end of the 6th book, I think there's a part where Harry aknowledges (to himself) that Draco wouldn't have killed Dumbledore. So that means that if Draco tries to join them against Voldemort, Harry will believe him. Maybe, if Draco pushes aside his pride to join, he could really help.

I had read somewhere that Jk had stated Draco would not be helping Harry with any horcruxes. However, she didn't elaborate into anything else. Draco has such an amazing opportunity to dig his head out of his over pampered behind and prove what he is truly made of.

Every decision, every move, every word made by Draco has been made in order to appease someone else. Whether it be his parents, Voldemort, or even his classmates (including Harry).

It's time for him to grow up and make some decisions for himself. If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. Draco had the opportunity to walk the walk he has been talking all of these years and he couldn't. He wasn't ready to run with the big dogs and just needed to stay on the porch. Now is his time to shine; now is the time for him to prove he's not just a mangy chihuahua, but a full grown mastiff instead.

That is a good if I might add odd description of Draco McKenzie but a good one. yes I do agree that he must finally show his true colors and let people see him for who he really is, a hero/ Or a lamo wannabe? I am hoping that he will have his time in the spotlight and shine like a big Star and do the right thing so that people will perhaps see him in a different light than before....Draco has had alot to carry on his shoulders since childhood, I feel that he will turn opposite of what his father wanted him to do, and become a hero...But I agree that he will not help locate horcruxes..fight against Voldemort...Yes I think he will do that.

He might fight agianst voldemort but what good would he be? Throughout the 6 books so far he hasn't really be mentioned as a great or powerful wizard just a bully. The Draco character so far has been quite 2 dimensional and needs a bit of filling out - everyone says that JKR is a great character designer but draco has stuck to the same formula of the class bully for 6 years so far and has only just had a bit of limelight in HBP but not too much - Is Draco just a background character who's just there to bully the students or will he play an integral part of the story? Thats what I'd want to know. So far throughout all of the books there have not been too many main characters from any house other than Gryffendor? Slytherin Wizards (although some go bad) are meant to be great wizards so where are they - did they not join the DA just because of pride or because of Harry? if slytherin students are great wizards then surely having them on your side to fight LV would be one of Harry's main points! Or is this where Draco will come into it in the Final book - Is he the 'leader' of the slytherin and he can rally them all round to Harry's side or are we (slytherins) just there to make up the numbers throughout the books like the ravenclaws and hufflepuffs?

In the final Book I think that it will ll come out about Draco's true charactor and about what he really stands for. We have been lead to believe in the first 6 books that yes his sole purpose at Hogwarts is to just be a bully and push others around. But I think that he has a deeper purpose to fulfill in the final book. He may very well bring all of the Slytherin goons together to form a kind of Army with Harry against Voldy...Tom Felton does say he will play a very big part in the final movie, bigger than what he has played in the past. So it will be interesting to see what he does. Again I think he will come over to the good side and become a hero of some sort...Hopefully he won't die trying though, that would just be too sad

draco does seem to have been given a much bigger part in the 6th book, so hopefully he'll get to expand that in the last one. In all the others he just seems to have been there as a kind of enemy for harry while he was at school, but not in a dangerous life threatening way.

Yes it does appear that Draco's role in book 6 plays a bigger significance to his overall role in the Final book. I believe that his overall charactor and attitude has been building up since book 1 to make a full circle to his role in the final book. He obviously is a very important charactor, or we would not have seen what he was slotted to do in book 6. Again it will be very interesting to see what he has to bring to the table in the final book.

Wouldn't it just suck that after all of the build up we had on Draco in book 6 that she kills him off before the book even starts? I would be soooo disappointed and sooooo upset. I really hope he gets a chance to grow up.

By the way Marcey; I had to laugh at the comment you posted after my last. It was not odd! I was just...tired and tired, and oh, did I mention tired? However, I think I made some good points...I just expressed them...okay, okay. I expressed them oddly!

LMAO about the post description of DRaco....Yes I know you were tired you had just traveled for 13 hours with the kids!
OMG! If jk did that after all the buildup we have had on Draco I would be devastated! That would be too sad! I would have to go into mourning immediately
No I am hoping that all that we are theorizing about Draco is true and he makes it to the end of the book with Harry!

If Draco (for some odd reason) doesn't turn his back on Voldemort and decides to continue with the life of a Death Eater, how do you think that is going to affect Harry, if at all? Do you think that Harry will treat him as a pebble in his shoe, or will Draco actually become a worthy opponent?

OMG! I don't even want to think of Draco going to Voldy's side....*shrieks at thought* that would be horrible... I think that it will affect Harry somewhat, but since the two have never been the best of buds, it would only fuel Harry's dislike of Draco more. As far as Draco being a worthy opponent, he may be, with all of the dirty tricks I'm sure he has learned from his father over the years, he could prove worthy. But as sneaky and conniving as Draco may be, he would cheat to get what he wants, while Harry is far more advanced at spells, he may take Draco.
But I don't want to see it like that, I want Draco to team up w/ Harry......

Although i don't want Draco to die, or stay with V, or get hurt in anyway at all...
i think that the only way he will turn his back on V is if somebody gives him a reason to. for example, like dumbledore on the tower, offered him a chance to change and did so in a calm encouraging way. or if somebody promised to help him protect his family or offered him a big chance to prove himself. Most of the things he does is making -what he views as- the best of a bad situation, he doesn't seem however to make big opportunities for himself when it comes to chosing a side. he is, at the moment, scared, worried and angry and will not be able to help himself that much.

i do think, however that if Harry offered him the chance to change sides, after alot of sneering and pretending, he would help harry.

and of course i'd love that because we would see more of him in book 7 and the films...

You know, I never thought of this, but I think you're right. Harry had even said in HBP that he didn't blame Draco. He even felt sorry for him. I'm sure if the situation were to come up that he would try to get Draco to change sides.

Poor kid. He's rich, famous, in a powerful family, and he's as miserable and lonely as the next guy. His father is in prison and his mother is as good as dead for making that vow with Professor Snape.

Do you think that if his mother and aunt (Bellatrix) were to get a hold of him before Harry does that he will stay with Voldemort, or that he will try to get away and go somewhere else?

Draco's mother has a great influence over him, maybe not as much as Lucius but she is influential over what he does. He may if that happened (Narcissa and Bellatrix getting to him) sway over to Voldy's side, but I think that he would do it only to protect his mother ( he could care less about his aunt) and if Voldy baited hiom right, Draco may just do that.
I am a firm believer that Draco will be swayed over to harry's side, what method Harry will use to do that I do not know. I do feel that Draco is a very lonely, miserable guy, sure he is popular, has friends, and exerts some control over certain people at school, and he is loaded, but maybe all he really wants is a true friend. Someone who can understand him and what he has gone through his whole life. He just needs an ear to listen, and a shoulder to lean on, Crabbe and Goyle are not what I would consider "true" friends just goons that like to hang out with him to make themselves look "good".

thats a good point. crabbe and goyle aren't the huggy feely kinda guys. draco may join the same reason snape did, so he can be on the winning side both ways. He IS an Occlumens, hes a blonde snape for crying out loud!!!

his mother, in my opinion, is the only person Draco truly loved. He may have respect or awe for his father, but not love. nor his aunt. The one person he would die to protect (and voldemort may just let that happen) is his mother. just thought I'd add that, you know.

on another note, whatever happened to draco when he failed? what do you think happened?

marauderishly yours,

madmarauder

I think Draco either ran away from Voldemort, or Voldemort is going to punish him...severely. He failed and failed blantantly and someone there is bound to tell him (Voldemort).

I really hope Snape is going to do him right and make sure he gets the help he deserves. I would be completely devestated if he turned bad.

I hope Snape isn't bad either I hope he helps Harry in destroying Voldy.

I hope Snape isn't bad either I hope he helps Harry in destroying Voldy.

Good point about where did Draco go? I think that he is in hiding with Snape somewhere. If Voldy does find them there will be a huge price to pay I'm afraid. Voldy will be upset with both of them, Draco for failing to complete the task and Snape for doing it for him.
Whatever the case may be, I believe Narcissa is hiding her son and Snape, she owes it to Snape for saving Draco's hide after all. Book 7 has alot of surprises in store for all of us on the Draco/Snape saga.

I have no idea where Draco is prob with Snape like you said but one question I want to know is if Snape is good will Draco turn to the good side with Snape ?

I do believe that Draco will turn to the good side with Harry. As far as Snape goes, it is still hard to decide which side he will go too. Since he is the one that killed Dumbledore, I don't see him being welcomed back with open arms by The Order or anyone else. He is atough egg to crack...but I do think that Snape will play an important role in the final book.

there is a chance that dumbledore knew what was going to happen, and planned with snape, that if it came to it, he would sacrifice himself so snape would appear to be on LVs side. but yeah, i dont think the order members will welcome him back, especially if they knew nothing about it. of course on the other hand, he may have actually decided that he wants to be with LV instead of the order. but in all the books prior to this, he's been faithful to the order - has this all been an act?

Im Back!!!!!!!!! Now what are we talking about? Oh, i dont think Dumbledore Knew what was going to happen at first, but then he sort of figured it out. Make sense?And i think it was an act. Draco shouldnt go to the good side because i like him the way he is. if you think about that i have no chance sad isnt it?

This is in the spirit of Interfandom Unity thingy.... Yeah, I'm a Gryffindor.

First, Slytherin Girl, I love your signature, coincides with mine

I believe that Draco will be saved to Harry's side,

But along the lines of Crabbe and Goyle not being huggy, fuzzy sort of guys, what if they were set on Malfoy to make sure he behaved himself, I mean, in know they were at his beck and call, but they parents were both death eaters. What if their parents all pulled a Hitler Youth thing, and "encouraged" the friendship so they would report on each other if one of them started showing sympathy for Harry or Dumbledore?

I do think that Snape was just acting. In fact I sincerely hope (despite JKR's (mis) quote (yes, I'm delusional) that Dumbledore won't pull a Gandalf) that the whole thing was a ruse to save Harry and Draco's skin.

But still one of the main points is still unanswered

Where are all of the great slytherin witches and wizards who aren't bad...

Just because all of the bad wizards come from slytherin that doesn't mean all slytherins are bad

Slytherins are supposed to be great wizards so will they show school spirit and join in the fight against Lv or just melt into nothingness - is the final book not gonna involve other students? Are the HP books just Gryffindor based?

well, J.K has been heard saying that "Ravenclaw will have its day," so we know that the houses are used to some degree. This also means that Hogwarts will probably reopen.

As for the students, this has been discussed before. most will probably go with voldie, while the few loyal ones (most likely first or second years) will help. But I don't think anyone older than that will help Hogwarts or harry. except maybe for draco. but I'm not getting my hopes up.

marauderishly yours,

madmarauder

Draco has so many things to live up to. The poor boy is half ripped apart mentally, I think that if we see him again alive he will be weaker and more encouragable and this is when the Order & HP will have the best chance of turning him against the DL, but that is assuming that he isn't killed for failing. Unless of course Snape takes him into hiding but I don't know how that will work since they ran off with the DE's. I think that one of the two will survive their impending encounter with the DL and that one will provide an essential bit of info or something to unravel the mystery of DD's demise (I mean why he allowed it, or why and how he faked his death) and the location of the horcruxes. Nothing direct mind you since I doubt either will be able to learn any info as obviously important as this but something will tip Harry or Hermione off... honestly I'm not sure Ron will notice until Hermione hits him over the head with the answer. But I think that Slytherin will show itself and its colors and not just in the obviously Serpent-like DE's but in the younger generation which will aspire to prove their worth to the world and get their portion of the glory and not all will forsee a good future for themselves with Voldy on the throne.